The Get Windows 10 patch, KB 3035583, is back

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I want to know what’s different about this version… I installed it on one of my test machines, and I don’t see any difference in the GWX notificatio
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I’m guessing one of two things, A) It times out on July 29, OR B) you can never uninstall it and it will torture Windows 7 and 8 users forever.

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Minor change, fixed 2 bugs, added 7 new known bugs but released anyway, added 5 more bugs they don’t know about yet. Oops one bug was bad, rush patch, fixed 0 bugs added 3. Rush another patch, fixed previous bug, added another. (there that will make the supersedence problem worse) — microsoft coding

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I do love a good game of whack-a-mole. The last time I whacked this one was only 3 weeks ago.

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Hi Woody:
KB3035583 was removed from hide by microsoft and presented to me as an optional update today. This makes 12 time now microsoft has performed this distasteful act. windows 7 home premium SP 1
Herb

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🙂 But is this a new mole? If not, why not? 4:00 in the morning, and I can’t figure it out…

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I only hid this one on 17th May and its back again.
then it stated it was 735 kb now it says it’s
735 to 837 kb. but I’m not going to install to see what it does……… call me ‘whatever’ (lol) LT

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I propose we find a sucker (volunteer) to download and install this latest travesty from Microsoft. The first thing would be if Microsoft programmed KB3035583 to override either or both Gibson’s Never10 or GWX Control Panel and then install Windows 10 without your consent.

Thank you Malwaresoft for doing this stuff.

I am now looking for mt next computer to be either a Linux or OS/2. Unfortunately, in my line of business, I must use Windows programs. (They are only written for Windows). And of course, if there is a bug in the program (and there usually is), the tax software company then has an out on any issue. “You do not have a Windows computer. We did not test the program to see if it could run on your configuration. Good luck.”

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Already did it. The new 3035583 respects the registry setting, but I can’t see where it’s doing anything different from the old one.

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@Woody,

3035583 came in yesterday as Optional, unchecked and italicized.

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Will this game stop when the free Win 10 period ends? Will we be safe then? Woody, I just read your Win 10 book and now don’t think Win 10 would be all that bad of a transition and learning curve. It’s just that I’ll upgrade (or buy a iMac) when I’m ready and not when MS is ready for me.

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Thanks Woody. You are a glutton for punishment.

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Also meant to say that it is written up as a Recommended update….although of course sitting in the Optional ones as I have Recommended turned off!
What a load of tosh!!! LT

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Yep, that means you have “Give me recommended” unchecked.

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I don’t mind playing whack-a-mole, I quite enjoy thwarting MS’s determination to make me upgrade. But I do feel very sorry for the many people who’ve contacted me because they inadvertently upgraded and found their printer, or a favourite bit of software, didn’t work. Or even because they just don’t like it, they’d rather stick with Windows 7. I’ve seen a few cases of totally unsolicited upgrades, but to be truthful most of them are because the very obscure options to cancel the upgrade weren’t understood. Nevertheless, because they don’t know how to do it themselves, and most tech support people aren’t charities, it is costing people good money to get their computers restored to what they WANT. I cannot even begin to express my disgust at this trickery from Microsoft and I find it troubling that it doesn’t care. It is not a good omen.

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Hi Woody

First of all thank you for a great website; I’m still on Windows 7 Home Premium thanks to you and the contributors to your website.

I don’t want to go to Windows 10 but today I noticed in the Windows Update that KB3035583 had appeared yet again so I hid it again thinking everything was fine, Windows Update went back to no updates available.

I clicked on the start button for something else later and found on the shutdown button the logo for install updates, I checked the Windows Update and there were no updates available. What is Microsoft trying to install on my computer that I’m not aware of.

I’ve also noticed (after reading your website) that there are GWX applications with what looks like the Windows 10 logo.

If I shutdown my computer or restart it, am I going to get Windows 10 on my computer?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Jane

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I had the same problem over the past few days on my super-clean Win7 machine — the ! notification appeared on the shut down menu, and I don’t have any idea what it was trying to install. Happened every time I rebooted, and no new updates appeared in the installed updates list.

Best solution: Run GWX Control Panel. Then you can reboot to your heart’s content, and never have to worry about it. Yes, it’ll nip any impending upgrade.

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Ditto.

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FWIW, I just ran Windows Update on one of my Win7 machines for the first time since March 28. It took 1 hour 6 minutes to find the updates, the longest time I have seen. It found 22 Important Updates, all Security related except KB3153731. It found 14 Optional Updates, none checked, including KB2952664 and KB3035583. I ran GWX Control Panel and Spybot Anti-Beacon afterwards and found nothing changed.

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Indeed, but when it was offered on both my machines as optional with the main May updates it wasn’t italicised. So that’s one difference.

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I installed yesterday’s KB3035583 on my test machine this morning. Have “recommended” checked on that one so it was checked important. Also have hidden telemetry, Win Client update, and compatibility patches.

I’ve seen no changes YET – GWX popup same as in Dec last (install now/download now install later). But then, tasks may be scheduled anew, so we’ll see what happens

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Right. It’s italicized because it was offered as “Recommended” this time around.

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Mine was mark as “important” this time around.

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Thanks Woody. I rebooted my computer and nothing was installed. Also the notification on the shut down menu has disappeared. I checked the update history and there was nothing new. I will run the GWX Control Panel as you suggest.

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Yeah, thanks Woody. I never install it, just hide it.

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Hi Woody:
Forgot to mention, I have never check for updates on my computer. Where can I find the instructions to install GWX control panel?
Sincerely
Herb

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Do I get a prize if I have 2 x kb3035583?

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I tried sending a screenshot – what’s the secret?

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I’m not sure if you can post a screenshot. You can always email it to me…

Twins? OMG.

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You definitely need to check for updates.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3000299/microsoft-windows/a-better-blocker-is-available-to-shield-you-from-coerced-get-windows-10-updates.html

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Sorry, Woody, I Have never check for updates checked on my computer, but check manually every two or three days.I think I need to install GWX control panel.Thanks for all you do. My computer has been stable since I found you almost two years ago.
Sincerely,
Herb

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AHA! I feel much better now.

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I’ve had two KB3035583 for a long time. Hidden, of course. They differ in size.

Windows 8.1 64 bits.

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It still amazes me that no antimalware software blocks or deletes gwx.exe. GWX is MALWARE. Are security entreprises afraid of Microsoft as to leave all computer users unprotected?

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I had hidden the windows 10 updates from my parents’ computer, but a few months later it appeared again and apparently my father hit by mistake “accept” to the update being downloaded. He notified me after the fact, and now my father’s pc cannot find any updates except to install windows 10. How in the world do we get rid of the “install windows 10” in windows update?

I checked to see if any of the following windows 10 files were on his system: KB3035583,KB2952664,KB2976978,KB3021917,KB3044374, or KB2990214.
None of them are present in his pc. Also got rid of the windows 10 icon. But for the life of me I can’t seem to get rid of the installation prompt for windows 10.

Also, since the day my father accepted the download, which was on October 2015, his pc hasn’t received any other update and windows seems to just want to install windows 10

Is there any way to fix this without having to reinstall windows 7?

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Yes, absolutely, run GWX Control Panel!

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3000299/microsoft-windows/a-better-blocker-is-available-to-shield-you-from-coerced-get-windows-10-updates.html

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I believe that’s precisely the case. No AV manufacturer wants to risk Microsoft’s ire.

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Thank you Woody. Will try it out.

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Why does there have something new in it?

A few tweaks here or there and bing bam boom, they can release it again, have it show up in the list again, and snare a few more (hundreds of thousands of) folks who might not be perfectly attentive THIS time around.

It sure seems like desperation. Could it be that Microsoft is starting to drown and is grabbing at any and all customers swimming nearby.

-Noel

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Here’s a question:

Given: Microsoft co-opting the Windows Update process to push PUPware.

Random Thought: I know Microsoft isn’t a monolith, but since the cancer has spread to the Windows Update maintenance process…

Should we trust ANY more updates?

-Noel

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They are different updates under the same name. This was discussed many times before in the context of KB2952664 which is repeatedly released under the same name every few weeks, having the same functionality slightly modified with each release. Actually the functionality is inside of a black box and nobody outside of Microsoft knows exactly what those updates do, although there is published documentation.
This explains why users who hide updates notice them as unhidden later, which is actually inexact. In reality, Microsoft expires older versions and release new versions under the same number. Sometimes as Allan and oxbridgelee noticed, multiple versions can coexist until older ones are expired. The same considerations for KB2952664 apply to KB3035583 but can apply to any other updates for which Microsoft decides to release in the same way.
Hiding updates and leaving them hidden after Microsoft expires the old ones creates the potential for Windows Update database corruption. It is not possible to get back to those updates after Microsoft expired them, but they leave a ghost record in the database without a reference on the Microsoft servers and this creates conditions for time-outs which can slow down the WU scanning.

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PS I wrote earlier “database corruption” but in reality what gets broken is the communication between the Windows Update client using the local database as reference and the Microsoft servers. The local database itself does not get corrupted.

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Shows up as an important update for me

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I’m struggling with that question right now.

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The need for constant vigilance is wearing me down. I’ve run one of the automatic upgrade blocking utilities, but of course I still have to go through the tedious process of checking the info on each update to avoid any that are associated with 10. I had a full head of hair before all this started, but I’ve pulled most of it out now. If we reach the point at which NO update, however innocent-looking, can be trusted, I’ll go completely bald!

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Seems now even the Chinese are complaining about forced upgrades. News says 1.2M posts!
Maybe China will block MS altogether. Hold your breath!

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I wonder if it’s linked to the huge number of pirated Win7 systems in China? Have a link?

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-microsoft-windows-idUSKCN0YI0CK

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36397835

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@Woody,

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36397835

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The GWX Control Panel removes the GWX Kraken!

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Some influential people at Microsoft probably have their performance bonus(es) tied to Win 10 adoption. If not, there are some really stupid executives there who don’t know how to treat their customer base.

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Got it. Thanks!

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It occurs to me to wonder if Microsoft could be prosecuted under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act for installing software on my computer without my permission that damages my use of the computer.

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Just an idea.
I think that the updates which are released in common for Windows 7 64-bits and Windows Server 2008 R2 should be as safe as possible, although they can include telemetry components. They should be considered baseline and everything else, i.e updates not released for the server but only for Windows 7 should be analysed more thoroughly for potential “side-effects”.

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Hi Woody:
I have never check for updates ( not recommended ) Checked and I manually check for updates weekly. windows 7 SP 1. Also, what would happen if I uncheck Give me updates for microsoft products and check for new optional microsoft software when I update windows ? This is the only item I have checked ?????
Herb

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Microsoft products means in that context anything else other than Windows: Microsoft Office (if installed), Microsoft Security Essentials, Silverlight, Skype for Desktop (do not install this last one from Microsoft Update as it is not maintained correctly). Also some of the server products like SQL Server, Exchange, CRM which you are likely not to encounter.
By checking the box Give me updates for Microsoft products, you actually convert from Windows Update to Microsoft Update which is an extension of the previous. Be aware that if you remove Microsoft Update check box and later you try to re-enable while having IE11 installed, there is a bug preventing you to do it, unless you use certain workarounds which are not so obvious.

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Hi Woody,

I have managed to keep my Acer laptop on W7 ever since the first malware from M$ started to arrive. Did not fall for 8 nor 9(what happened to MS9 anyway??) nor 10. But last week (tue) when I connected a USB which I had used daily for 3 years my laptop froze. I saw a flash of the windows update screen, then blueness. Restart, in my dreams, recovery .. I contemplated it, but recently I changed my partners HP-Compaq laptop into a Ubuntu server in 40 minutes, so I decided for Ubuntu 16.04. 35 minutes later, I never have to worry about M$ crap ever again.
My advise for M$, put the engineers in charge of marketing and sales, and let marketeers do the programming. At least the info on their not-working products might be correct.

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I have automatic updates turned off, and at present will install only security updates. Looking at my history of restore points, I’ve found three listed as Critical Updates, each having been created in the last week, the last one is dated yesterday (1st June). Does this indicate that updates are being installed automatically even though AU is turned off?

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Nope. Lots of things can trigger a restore point….

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Take a gander at how it appeared on my laptop a week or so ago:

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/Ascaris5/3035583.png

Not recommended… it’s showing as Important.

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