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      • #2111240 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        According to the KB article: Updates an issue that prevents File Explorer’s Quick access control from pasting clipboard content using the right mouse
        [See the full post at: The latest “optional, non-security, C/D Week” patch for Win10 1903 and 1909 is out]

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      • #2111261 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Can confirm both fixes for the File Explorer bug are working.

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      • #2111267 Reply
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Unless all these updates come down the “update pipe”, I believe I’ll ignore them.

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      • #2111278 Reply
        b
        AskWoody Plus

        It looks like we’re getting a new version of jscript9.dll, so it probably fixes the ADV200001/CVE-2020-0674 security hole. The Security Advisory ADV200001 page does not list this update. It was last updated a week ago.

        The flaw is in jscript.dll, not jscript9.dll:

        By default, IE11, IE10, and IE9 uses Jscript9.dll which is not impacted by this vulnerability.
        This vulnerability only affects certain websites that utilize jscript as the scripting engine.
        ADV200001 | Microsoft Guidance on Scripting Engine Memory Corruption Vulnerability | Security Advisory

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        • #2111297 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          You’re right. The article is wrong.

          I wonder if it fixes the ADV200001 security hole? No mention of it anywhere that I can find.

      • #2111275 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just rechecked WU and KB 4532938.net is now KB 4534132.net anyone have any idea what changed ?

      • #2111287 Reply
        Tex265
        AskWoody Plus

        Assuming this is the 1909 fix that everyone has been waiting for, is there any other outstanding problem(s) with 1909?

        Or will it finally be OK to update from 1903 to 1909?

        Windows 10 Pro x64 v1909 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)
        • #2111289 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          KB4532695 requires a servicing stack update.
          “If you are using Windows Update, the latest SSU (KB4528759) will be offered to you automatically.”
          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4532695/windows-10-update-kb4532695

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        • #2111298 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          That’s the only major problem I have. But it’s still much too early to declare the problem fixed and worry-free.

          (Besides, what does 1909 get you that 1903 does not?)

          • #2111303 Reply
            Tex265
            AskWoody Plus

            Five (5) more months beyond 1903 EOL which will hopefully keep MS off my back for 18 months from now.

            Windows 10 Pro x64 v1909 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)
      • #2111315 Reply
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        The right-click Paste in File Explorer Search box works now.  Ctrl + V never stopped working, Search still worked.  The right-click Paste non-issue (I don’t use Search) is it in 1909 that I’ve found with regular daily use since its RTM.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
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        • #2111333 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          bbearen, I’m not sure how you managed to avoid the bug that prevents you from focusing.

          Maybe you don’t leave explorer open for very long? I have 3 explorer windows open, two of them didn’t let me focus. One of them focused, and then greyed out, which funnily enough is the first time I’ve seen the greying out described in the update release notes.

          I almost never use explorer’s search bar, not even once a week, and I’ve still noticed the inability to focus. All you need to do to reproduce is leave a few explorer windows open for a day (probably not even that long).

          I’ve also noticed that even when the search box works there’s an annoying lag in the carat when focusing before it begins blinking that looks different than normal text entry boxes.

          • #2111375 Reply
            bbearren
            AskWoody MVP

            bbearen, I’m not sure how you managed to avoid the bug that prevents you from focusing.

            I don’t like and don’t need Special Folders or Quick Access. I have deleted 27 registry entries, 25 of which are in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\ or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\.

            I don’t have 3D Objects Folder, Desktop Folder, Documents Folder, Music Folder, Pictures Folder, Videos Folder, or Quick Access Folder in File Explorer’s left pane.  I have had partitions (logical drives) for most of those for years.  I disliked seeing those needless special folders show up in File Explorer every time I opened it, so I tracked them down and deleted their entries from the registry.

            That may have some effect in my limited issues with File Explorer, I don’t know.  But I do use File Explorer quite frequently, and do leave one or two open for extended periods from time to time, but I’ve never had the focus issue you describe.  And the right-click Paste was really a non-issue for me, since I don’t use search; I already know where my files are.  I developed a logical drive/folder/sub-folder storage system many years ago, have made slight improvements over the years and it serves me very well.

            Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
            "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
            "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2111324 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        I am running version 1903, Build 18362.592 and just had the January 28 CU and .NET patches installed.

        The .NET patch is KB4534132, as expected.  However, the CU patch was (again) KB4528760, previously installed on January 14.  Microsoft Catalog says that KB4528760 is replaced by KB4532695, but that didn’t happen. I still have KB4528760 — Build 18362.592 (and for a second entry in Update History).

        Afterwards, I shut down with a RESTART to see if the new/replacement Jan 28 CU patch would install. It did not.

        I have no CU deferral days set.  The optional Feature Update, 1909 is still waiting to be installed with the “Download and install now” link present.

        The only change to my system between January 14 and January 28, that I can think of is that I uninstalled/disabled IE 11.

        Any conjectures as to why the new/placement CU patch KB4532695 did not install??  Is it a SSU problem?

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        • #2111352 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          Did you install using Windows Update or from the Microsoft Update Catalog?

          What updates show as installed on your computer?

          Did you see any error messages? If so, what were the messages?

          Please provide more information than “it didn’t work” on your computer.

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          • #2111417 Reply
            WCHS
            AskWoody Plus

            Did you install using Windows Update or from the Microsoft Update Catalog?

            I installed using Windows Update (i.e., Clicking on “Check for Updates.”) 

            Other answers are at  post-#2111395, including an image of the “installed updates” screen.

            No error messages, though — just a 2nd entry in Update History for KB4528760 (the 1st was January 14, Patch Tuesday) and no sign of KB4532695.

             

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        • #2111359 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Today’s CU is optional, being week D, so I don’t think you’ll see it unless you click “Check for updates”:

          KB4532695-Optional

          I think the apparently repeated CU you see is really an SSU, so check installed updates for today (via Uninstall updates link at the top of View update history, or Control Panel/Programs and Features/View installed updates).

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          • #2111395 Reply
            WCHS
            AskWoody Plus

            Today’s CU is optional, being week D, so I don’t think you’ll see it unless you click “Check for updates”:

            I did “Check for Updates” and that’s how the two updates (KB4534132 and KB4528760 initiated.  I did a “Check for Updates” afterwards at 4:17 PM EST and then again just now at 10:06 PM EST.  No KB4532695 yet.

            I think the apparently repeated CU you see is really an SSU, so check installed updates for today

            Attached is the screen from Installed Updates, which shows only KB4524132 [the .NET update],  so apparently there was no SSU today, January 28.  Which might explain the reason that I didn’t get KB4532695, i.e., the replacement for KB4528760?

            Maybe, MS will figure out that there was an error in installing KB4528760 a 2nd time and will sooner or later send down the pipeline the necessary SSU, inside of which is wrapped KB4532695??

             

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            • #2111457 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Please see #2111456.

            • #2111477 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              When I set “quality updates” deferral to zero KB4532695 did not show up.

              When I additionally set “Feature Updates” to zero, KB4532695 showed up under “optional updates available”, though I have not installed it yet.

              Is this supposed to happen?

              I am running 1909 build 18363.592

              • #2111502 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Security Updates (= Quality Updates) are released by MS on Patch Tuesday.

                Updates (CUs) released C, D, possibly E and possibly A week are non-Security, OPTIONAL INSTALL Updates. They are the equivalent of Previews in earlier versions of Windows. They are generally meant for testing (by IT Departments for example) of changes/fixes that will be added to the Security Updates (= Quality Updates) released the following Patch Tuesday.

                Unless it is urgent for you to fix a given problem in a Patch Tuesday (= Quality) Update, you should ignore the OPTIONAL INSTALL Updates and just install the Security/Quality updates on Patch Tuesday.

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      • #2111346 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        I am running version 1903, Build 18362.592 and just had the January 28 CU and .NET patches installed. The .NET patch is KB4534132, as expected. However, the CU patch was (again) KB4528760, previously installed on January 14

        The customized Desktop URLs (shortcuts to the web) are now replaced with blank icons.  Maybe, they will come back in time.  I can reapply them, if need be, though.

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        • #2111367 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          If they’re still the same after a computer restart, go to Settings, Apps, Apps & features, Default Apps, Choose default apps by file type, .URL, Choose a default, Internet Browser.

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      • #2111385 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        KB4532695 requires a servicing stack update.
        “If you are using Windows Update, the latest SSU (KB4528759) will be offered to you automatically.”
        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4532695/windows-10-update-kb4532695

        Using win10 Pro version 1903, Build 18362.592 I wanted to have the latest SSU (KB4528759) so I dl’d and attempted to manually install this KB. Message came back…”already installed” (paraphrased). So I checked installed updates..not there. Checked  uninstall updates and got the 2nd screenshot:remove-update

        All updates since 1903

        I hope this is coming together as I cannot see the screenshots. So there is KB……759 in the uninstall shot. Huh?

        So I’m confused. The only updates I installed after upgrade to ver 1903 were on 20Jan.

        Also, what would cause every one of the updates to fail, then succeed on 2nd attempt? I did not interfere during the download/install process at all.

        Do I indeed have the latest SSU. and is this necessary for next set of updates when given the all clear? Perhaps I am confused about the need for this….

        Thank you!

        DriftyDonN

         

         

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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        • #2111391 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          These old eyes totally misread the install dates…I see they were installed on different dates…but how??? I un paused and the the delayed updates and they were all dl’d and installed at the same time….right before my eyes…then I repaused for 35 days. Is windows working on it’s own behind the scenes when failures occur? ???

          Really confused. What is the point of the pause function? Just to make us think we have some modicum of control?

          D

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

        • #2111404 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          well….the actuall install date( when I unpaused PAUSE) was 24 Jan based on woody’s article in Computer world……

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

        • #2111456 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The SSU is bundled with the CU in Win10.
          But the SSU does not show up in the pending updates in Windows Update.

          In Update HISTORY, the SSU may present itself with the same KB number as the CU, so it may appear as if the CU installed twice. The CU’s KB number may even appear in the pending updates asking to be installed again. This is just an idiosyncrasy of Windows Update.

          If you want to see what is actually installed, the place you have to look is INSTALLED UPDATED. There you will find the CU KB4528760 and the SSU KB4528759 listed as separate installs.

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      • #2111399 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        go to Settings, Apps, Apps & features, Default Apps, Choose default apps by file type, .URL, Choose a default, Internet Browser.

        Voilà!!

        Was it the disabling of IE 11 that caused this problem??

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        • #2111401 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m not sure, but probably.

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          • #2111408 Reply
            WCHS
            AskWoody Plus

            I’m not sure, but probably.

            If so, I can probably expect this with my other Windows 10 machine on which I also disabled IE 11.  It is using version 1909 and 2 days ago, I deferred CUs for 21 days, I will know later.

            And, if the same thing happens with my customized Desktop icons for the web (URLs) on that machine, I will know what to do.

            BTW, is the day of deferral counted as the 1st day?  Or is the day after, counted as the 1st day?  And when it expires, can I expected them on the 22nd day (which is the day after the deferral expires).  Or does the CU update(s) happen on the day of expiry?

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            • #2111436 Reply
              b
              AskWoody Plus

              Defer or Pause? Big difference. I thought you were going with Defer=0 as advised by PKCano.

              Defer is from a future release date. Pause is from today as day 1 for X days then resume next day.

              If you clicked Pause three times, you can view the end date at Windows Update Advanced Options.

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            • #2111458 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              If you will set Windows Update according to my recommendations, and stop fooling with Pause, you will cease having the problems you think you are having. 🙂

              • #2118895 Reply
                WCHS
                AskWoody Plus

                OK, I’ve ready to go on this.  In Windows Update > Advanced Options, I’ve set Feature Update deferral to 365 (it was at 0) and I’ve set Quality Updates to 0 (it was at 21). I’m at the Group Policy Editor now and I am stuck. I clicked on Computer Configuration>Administrative Templates>Windows Components>Windows Updates. Then I clicked on “Configure Automatic Updates” and the screen you see comes up. I clicked on the radio button to change it to “Enabled” as you can see. But, it’s stuck on #3 and I can’t get it to change to #2. I tried clicking on the button for “Previous Setting”, but that takes me to the setting above “Configure Automatic Updates”, i.e., the one for “Configure Auto Restart…”, so that’s obviously not going to set it to #2.  So, how do I get it to be #2 for “notify download/install”?

                What am I not doing right?

                This my 1909 machine.

                configure-windows-update-how-to-enable-2

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                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Where the 3 is – that is a pulldown. Click on the symbol on the right side. 2 should be one of the choices.

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      • #2111415 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        That half-baked search feature is still a bug, with or without the pasting issues

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        • #2111559 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          But it’s UWP, not Win32! That makes it better, by definition, doesn’t it?

          🙂

      • #2111460 Reply
        CraigS26
        AskWoody Plus

        With Macrium Images ready …  I Chk’d and first got the KB4534132 Net Frmwk alone; The 2nd Chk produced KB4532695 Jan CU.

        Copy/Paste to Explorer Search works BUT I don’t know IF I ever had a problem. My Feb ’19 new desktop continues a perfect W10 WU record.

        W10-64 1909 Pro / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / HP Envy Desktop-Ethernet/ 12 GB / 256G SSD + 1 TB HDD / i5 Coffee Lake/ InSpectre #8 = GREEN

      • #2111467 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        If you will set Windows Update according to my recommendations, and stop fooling with Pause, you will cease having the problems you think you are having. 🙂

        I just checked my 1903 Windows Update . The service didn’t run yesterday, Jan. 28.

        Quality updates were deferred to 14 days.

        • #2111472 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The 14-day deferral period won’t be up until 10:00am PST US today. That’s roughly 6 hours later than this posting.

      • #2111533 Reply
        Mr. Natural
        AskWoody Plus

        I see these in WSUS and something else new as well. I’m seeing updates for “Microsoft Edge-Dev channel version 81 update”

        So being a “dev channel” means this is for those who have jumped ahead and installed “Chredge”, correct? This would not apply to the current Edge browser that some people use?

        Red Ruffnsore

      • #2111563 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        Please see #2111456.

        Is this the schema?
        and it turned out like this because Jan 18 was an “non-security, optional install” week

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        • #2111571 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          That’s correct. The latest round of CUs are OPTIONALs, equivalent to “Previews.” Note Woody says you don’t want to install them.

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      • #2111746 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        I thought you were going with Defer=0 as advised by PKCano.

        Yes, on my Windows 10, 1909 machine, I am at DEFER=0 right now, both for Feature Updates and for Quality Updates. Soon I will using the Group Policy Editor on that machine to set Windows Update to 2, as PKCano advised, also.

        So why am I still asking about PAUSE?  Here’s why: I got to 1909, because when on 1903, I set the PAUSE and didn’t realize that I couldn’t both set it back to 0 and be in the same state that I was before I set PAUSE!  I know why now, thanks to posts here, yours included.

        As one poster says, no question is stupid

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      • #2111762 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        stop fooling with PAUSE

        you will cease having the problems you think you are having.

        I am not having problems with PAUSE, because I don’t have PAUSE set; I am asking because I’d like to know.

        Or do the rules say that one must have a problem in order to ask a question?

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        • #2111788 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          I think it’s getting very confusing for us. Yesterday you said you’d deferred for 21 days two days ago; then today you confirmed defer was set to 0, so it looked like you really meant paused.

          If you’re using different settings on two different computers, I think you need to make that clearer. If you’re not, then I’m not sure how you’re managing to confuse us.

          • #2111826 Reply
            WCHS
            AskWoody Plus

            I think it’s getting very confusing for us.

            So THAT’s what’s creating this confusion (and impatience) — I like your humor about it — you are right —  I have two Windows 10 machines, each on a different version (1903 vs 1909) and each has appearing a different Windows-Update-main-page  and each has appearing different Advanced-Options-page settings.

            Unless I give specifics, my questions about Windows Update are for 1903 or 1909 and are about the rules of Windows Update, main page in general and Advanced Options page in general and for Windows Update in the Group Policy Editor in general.

            I will tell you why I am asking these questions in general: For 1903 and 1909, in the common core operating system for Windows Update, there must be some overarching decision table for the main page and the advanced options page.  That’s why I asking questions — to figure out the decision table to get a broader, fundamental understanding.

            I didn’t realize that you all were keeping track of what I said when.  Now that I know that, if a question is to address a specific problem, I can be clearer about the version/machine and its settings.  And if general, I can preface it by saying “general question.”

             

             

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            • #2111831 Reply
              Bluetrix
              AskWoody MVP

              I didn’t realize that you all were keeping track of what I said when. Now that I know that, if a question is to address a specific problem, I can be clearer about the version/machine

              It’s important for readers to know this information so that any replies are addressing your issues or concerns specifically, not guessing what OS you may be using.

              For instance:

              I know you are using Windows Pro on at least one of your machines, but I have to read down the post and see Group Policy mentioned to know this. This doesn’t tell me if both versions (1903/1909) you use are Pro.

              I have spent hours reading online searches only to find out half way into the article the writer was referring to a Pro version, when I was looking for information on a Home version.

              It does help the reader, thanks!  🙂

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      • #2111787 Reply
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Windows 10 Online Update BetaTest
        January 28, 2020 Evening Installation
        Updates downloaded from Windows Update, not Microsoft Update Catalog

        • KB4534132 (.NET Framework)
          Installed and rebooted without error.
        • KB4532695 (Cumulative)
          Installed and rebooted without error.
          Note: Long installation time with many blinking lights.
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        offline▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.959 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox79.0 WindowsDefender
        online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.1082 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox81.0 WindowsDefender
        TargetReleaseVersion=1909
        WUMgr
      • #2111833 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        I have two Windows 10 machines, …

        Amended:  two Windows 10/pro machines each on a different version (1903 vs 1909) and each has appearing a different Windows-Update-main-page and each has appearing different Advanced-Options-page settings.

        I see that some posters have a signature that gives info about their machines.  Do they manually put that at the bottom of each post? Or is there a function here on the site that can automatically put the info at the bottom of every post the poster posts.

        Offline: Win7Pro ∙ SP1 ∙ x64
        Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-6500U ∙ RAM 12GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender
        Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-8565U ∙ RAM 16GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender

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        • #2111835 Reply
          Bluetrix
          AskWoody MVP

          I see that some posters have a signature that gives info about their machines. Do they manually put that at the bottom of each post? Or is there a function here on the site that can automatically put the info at the bottom of every post the poster posts.

          Click on your avatar or name and it will take you to User Profile.

          Once there click on Edit

          Scroll down to Forum Signature, enter what you feel is appropriate.

          Scroll to bottom and click on Update.

          You are done.

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        • #2111836 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Amended:  two Windows 10/pro machines each on a different version (1903 vs 1909) and each has appearing a different Windows-Update-main-page and each has appearing different Advanced-Options-page settings.

          Unless I’ve forgotten something, I don’t understand why your Windows Update main and advanced settings pages are different between 1903 and 1909. The latter only introduced very minor user interface changes to Start, Calendar, Notifications and File Explorer. What differences do you see on Windows Update pages from 1903 to 1909?

          • #2111849 Reply
            WCHS
            AskWoody Plus

            I don’t understand why your Windows Update main and advanced settings pages are different between 1903 and 1909.

            I should have stated it in a clearer way.  The Advanced Options pages are appearing differently because my settings are different there and this makes the main pages appear differently, too.

            And that’s why my postings have been confusing — two machines (both Win10 pro), but different versions and different settings.

             

            Offline: Win7Pro ∙ SP1 ∙ x64
            Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-6500U ∙ RAM 12GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender
            Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-8565U ∙ RAM 16GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender

            • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by WCHS.
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            b
            • #2111905 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              This discussion is off-topic and has hijacked this thread.

              This thread is about “The latest “optional, non-security, C/D Week” patch for Win10 1903 and 1909 is out” People looking for information about these patches will not find the information in a discussion about an indivitual user’s WU settings or the description of the individual user’s machines.

              Please stay on-topic. Please create a Topic in the appropriate Forum to resolve your off-topic questions.

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              • #2112159 Reply
                WCHS
                AskWoody Plus

                This discussion is off-topic and has hijacked this thread.

                My fault.  This is the 2nd time (or maybe more) that I’ve done this.  I’m a newbie, but that’s no excuse.  I will be more mindful in the future, especially since the Reply To: at the top of the reply section reminds one of the topic — which I abashedly confess that I just laid my eyes on for the first time!

                 

                What if I started a new topic?  Can you move all of these posts that are involved in the hijack?

                Offline: Win7Pro ∙ SP1 ∙ x64
                Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-6500U ∙ RAM 12GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender
                Online: Win10Pro ∙ 1909.18363 ∙ x64 ∙ i7-8565U ∙ RAM 16GB ∙ SSD ∙ Firefox ∙ McAfee Internet Security ∙ Windows Defender

                • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by WCHS.
              • #2112165 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                What if I started a new topic? Can you move all of these posts that are involved in the hijack?

                LOL Most certainly, if I didn’t have anything else to do.  🙂
                But that’s not the case.
                Keep learning! 🙂

      • #2111837 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        On January 28, 2020 I installed a feature update for Windows 10 Build 1909. What a waste. Lost the login screen on resume from sleep, and, intermittently, on reboot. Had to revert to a previous Windows 10 version. Time consuming nuisance. Avoid the update unless MSFT is paying you to do their QA.

      • #2116083 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        The SSU is bundled with the CU in Win10.
        But the SSU does not show up in the pending updates in Windows Update.

        In Update HISTORY, the SSU may present itself with the same KB number as the CU, so it may appear as if the CU installed twice. The CU’s KB number may even appear in the pending updates asking to be installed again. This is just an idiosyncrasy of Windows Update.

        If you want to see what is actually installed, the place you have to look is INSTALLED UPDATED. There you will find the CU KB4528760 and the SSU KB4528759 listed as separate installs.

        Ok, Well I look under settings and update history, then Uninstall Updates. Where is the “INSTALLED UPDATED” you refer to located??

        Truthfully, I do not even know if you were replying to my posting or not.

        I posted because geekdom wrote # #2111385 .

        This has totally confused me. Perhaps if when replying to someone place their handle at the outset? Sorta like Dear Joe,    🙂

        These threads get so off track esp when there are more than 10 posts.I know mods try to keep track but I think it’s an impossible task…for example,I am not even sure the post number referred to above is appropriate for the topic.

        Thanks PKCano, geekdom etal for your diligence,patience and help.

        DriftyDonN

        Addendum: Further searching for Installed Update(s) brings me to the UNINSTALL window I posted initially. Si I guess the first page in settings for Update History is really just a crapshoot and msft only lets us see whats installed when we want to UNINSTALL them. Sorry for the aggravation I may have caused you. Perhaps a Topic by Mods

        ie: “DONT BELIEVE YOUR UPDATE HISTORY PAGE in SETTINGS” would help some folks!!!

        I use the pause function as woody advises- until woody says GO!

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by DriftyDonN. Reason: add thanks
        • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by DriftyDonN.
        • #2123612 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Another place to see Installed updates is:
          Control Panel\Programs & features – at the top left “View installed updates.”
          It’s the same location you get to when you click “Uninstall updates” in the Settings app.

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      • #2124434 Reply
        carpintero
        AskWoody Lounger

        1909
        I downloaded kb4532695 from catalogue, it goes happily through installation,
        ending with: “kb4532695 was not installed”.
        That’s all.

        • #2124477 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          The update catalogue list 8 versions, so you probably have the wrong one.
          I’d let Windows Update do the work for you.

          cheers, Paul

      • #2124728 Reply
        spetho2001
        AskWoody Lounger

        Hello Woody, I am a little confused about update

        The UPDATES PAGE does not give the number of the update or the date which makes things confusing. I have read your page on the 1909 update and problems associated with previous updates. I have 1903 KB4524570, 11/13/2019 installed on my computer. Is this the problem update? I have plenty of them installed after that. No 1909 installed yet. This whole thing is very confusing as the dates and numbers are not shown! Thank you, Thomas Spero

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by woody.
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        • #2124748 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          I agree.

          Short answer: Don’t worry about it. MS is just trying to push you to 1909, and there’s no particularly good reason to move.

          Better answer: Post this! Lots of people will have the same question.

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