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      • #2288154 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Ho hum. Microsoft is now taking preorders for the Surface Duo, with delivery starting September 10 Two screens of Android phone (each screen at 1800 x
        [See the full post at: The Surface Duo is now official]

      • #2288159 Reply
        RamRod
        AskWoody Plus

        I was interested until I saw the cost. Not so much any longer.

        Wow.

      • #2288160 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Continuation of ‘have to haves’ such as Bob, MSN Smart watch, MSN Music Player and now…android?
        No headphone jack and $200 for earbuds, $75 for a pen that has no ink! lol
        Usually fortune favours the brave but…

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        • #2288518 Reply
          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          These prices are ridiculous. Do they try to emulate Apple bussiness model? With MSFT devices? Hilarious. This decade, Microsoft showed itself as copycat, by my opinion. Which can be wrong of course.

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      • #2288161 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        I could buy a laptop and an iPhone SE for that price (and have a real computer and a real phone).

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      • #2288206 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        This is just the first step of Microsoft turning to Android.
        Second step : ChromeOS replacing Windows 10.
        Third step : Google buying Microsoft.

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      • #2288237 Reply

        They might not be as insensate as they look…in a Depression, you go for two extremes of the economic ladder; The best-selling radios of 1933 were the Philco model 84 at $30, and any model over $140. Everything in between, along with other brands, got flattened.

        Before the Great Depression, there were over 100 makers of radios in the US. By 1936, there were 16.

        Looks like they’re aiming at the “Carriage Trade”, mebbe?

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      • #2288278 Reply
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        How do you hold that up to your ear? Oh, you’ve got buds so you don’t need to!

        cheers, Paul

      • #2288323 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Release the Algorithm!

        Well, two phones for $700 each, not bad.

        Wait, yeah it is bad, even Apple Addicts are pushing back on prices.

      • #2288347 Reply
        Cybertooth
        AskWoody Plus

        Looks to me like another tech product for people who have more dollars than sense.

         

      • #2288388 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Microsoft promise 3 years of OS updates. WOW.

        Microsoft Surface Duo will receive three years of Android updates

        • #2288391 Reply
          joep517
          AskWoody MVP

          In the Android world, three years is significant. There are many Android devices that never receive an OS update. There are many that will receive one in the first year of the device release and then none.

          --Joe

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          • #2288393 Reply
            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            This is Microsoft’s world. They could support the DUO for 10 years with updates.

            • #2288454 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              If MS wanted to keep making phones, why didn’t they keep supporting the ones they made? I had the Icon and the 950. Like most owners, we loved them. Unfortunately, MS didnt like us back. I would not buy a MS hardware if they paid me.

          • #2296493 Reply
            doriel
            AskWoody Lounger

            Another opensource stolen to improve already astronomical incomes.
            Azure = linux
            Edge = chromium
            Surface Duo = android

            Yeah, thats ethical as ****. I lost interest in this patching and support circus since its not improving quality as promised, but it just keeps bullying users and distracts IT admins. Every trouble shooting should now start with the question:
            “What version of Windows do you use? And I want all 10 subversions too!”
            I would like to know full list of known issues updates caused. It must be thousands and thousands last 5 years. Thats not improvement at all.

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        • #2288519 Reply
          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          Wait! Did smeone say Android? I thought that is EXACTLY what Windows 10 X were created for!

          Now you call me “lost in the woods”..

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      • #2289012 Reply
        DRW
        AskWoody Lounger

        Personally, I don’t get the allure of a dual-screen phone at any price. Maybe that makes me a Luddite or something?

        • #2289137 Reply
          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          I second that thought. I cant get rid of the feeling, that it looks like nintendo DS. I thought that folding screens are superstarts. Not basic two-screen device which has 1cm gap between screens and costs appox. as my one month salary.

          Also, is that true?

          To make this happen, Microsoft designed its own custom Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), which enables full control over firmware components.

          This also allows Microsoft to deliver enterprise-grade security to Surface Duo as the company is able to review every line of firmware code.

          As a result, Microsoft says it can respond directly and agilely, to potential firmware threats and even “mitigate supply chain security risks”.

          Cause I read recently:
          https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/boothole-attack-impacts-windows-and-linux/

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      • #2295680 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        And….on launch day, yesterday…
        a firmware update to address multiple issues
        more info over at Neowin – website name only, cough
        https://www.neowin.net/news/surface-duo-gets-a-launch-day-firmware-update-to-address-multiple-issues

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        • #2295688 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Good grief.

          I haven’t read one, single positive review of the beast – and it looks like MS sent out freebies to an enormous number of bloggers.

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          • #2295708 Reply
            RamRod
            AskWoody Plus

            Never buy version 1.0 of anything from Microsoft. An oldie but goodie. I’ll take another look if/when v2 comes along.

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          • #2295734 Reply
            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            iFixit gave the DUO 2 out of 10 for reparability

            The Duo “is not something meant to be repaired, maybe not even by Microsoft”,
            “sticky glue traps,” and hard-to-replace battery.
            USB-C port being soldered to the main board, unconventional tri-point screws, and the “delicate OLED panels” that lack protection from “accidental prying.”
            Duo’s battery “is such a messy afterthought, we’re not sure Microsoft considered it at all,”

        • #2296186 Reply
          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          🙂 hilarious, Microsoft managed to break even Android updates! Maybe they can change their company name to MidasSoft – “All he touches turns to gold.”
          In this case.. you get my point and sorry for rant/fun stuff here.

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