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Thunderbird updates
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Runs on Windows, MacOs and Linux.
Why Betterbird?
Betterbird aims at providing a better user experience by fixing annoying bugs in Thunderbird and implementing new features. We will submit all changes to upstream to eventually benefit Thunderbird. So far, Thunderbird has accepted these changes recently with more pending acceptance.
Is Betterbird for me?
If you like Thunderbird but are discouraged by too many bugs, then give Betterbird a try. It is 100% compatible with Thunderbird’s ESR version. You can install the same dot release of Thunderbird in parallel and switch between Betterbird and Thunderbird on the same profile without problems and without needing the -allow-downgrade command line switch.
Will my add-ons work?
Yes, what runs in Thunderbird will run in Betterbird, you can install add-ons directly in-product from addons.thunderbird.net.
Who is behind Betterbird?
Betterbird is headed by Thunderbird’s former maintainer who has been joined by a group of people who share the view that users deserve a better experience and who do not agree with the approach of the Thunderbird management.
Release Notes (Windows. Based on Thunderbird 102.1.1)
Betterbird is a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird, Thunderbird on steroids, if you will.
Betterbird is better than Thunderbird in three ways: It contains new features exclusive to Betterbird, it contains bug fixes exclusive to Betterbird and it contains fixes that Thunderbird may ship at a later stage. Please refer to this feature table for examples. This should give you an impression of where the project is headed.
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Thunderbird 102.3.1 Update
Released to update channels 29th Sept 2022High security Vulnerabilities fixed with this update:
Ref Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2022-43These are CVE-2022-39249, CVE-2022-39250, CVE-2022-39251, and CVE-2022-39236
Win8.1/R2 Hybrid lives on..1 user thanked author for this post.
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Thunderbird 102.13.0 all platforms
* Thunderbird 115.0 is right around the corner! The “Supernova” UI features provide an updated user interface and is designed to be more modern, customizable, and with code that is easier to maintain and improve.
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Info on Mozilla Thnderbird Supernova UI and features. I’ll be holding off for a while and sticking with a version that just works. YMMV
Win8.1/R2 Hybrid lives on..
Thunderbird 115 Supernova released
Thunderbird version 115.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 102 or earlier.
https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/11/thunderbird-115-released-with-updated-ui-and-major-changes/
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Thanks Alex5723, I am glad it is NOT a direct upgrade from version 102.13.0 the latest version that I am currently on, because even though it is not designated as a “Beta” at this time, it looks like Thunderbird 115 has a LOT of changes that will take a while to get used to, and there may be some learning curve to adjust to. The comments at ghacks make me think it will probably be months before I feel like “upgrading” to this version. Hopefully people will post their experiences with this New Thunderbird 115.
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Warning, new Thunderbird 115 Blog post dated July 17, 2023 mentions automatic updating along with other new information:
Getting Started With The Main Window of Thunderbird 115 Supernova
“During the next several weeks, you should begin to see your installation of Thunderbird 102 automatically update to Thunderbird 115. Whether you’re upgrading or coming in as a brand new user, now is the perfect time to introduce you to the various elements of the software. This guide will introduce you to the main window of Thunderbird (in its Classic layout and new “Vertical Cards” layout), get you familiar with the terminology, and help you navigate Thunderbird like a pro!”
Good information with picture explanations about starting the “Learning Curve” on new User Interface Main Window. Note that the blog post mentions “Thunderbird 102 automatically update” – I have decided to defer the upgrade for awhile. If you haven’t already, maybe it would be a good idea to change Thunderbird settings concerning “Automatic Updates” by going to Tools > Settings > General > Scroll Down > to Updates – and check the circle for “Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them”. Of course, early adopters are valuable and highly appreciated, thank you for posting your experience with this new UI for Thunderbird 115.
I’m reading a book about anti-gravity. It’s impossible to put down.Well, it’s now September 3rd, and as @Alex5723 has pointed out right above here in this post, the FINAL version of Thunderbird 102 has been released, as version 102.15. I believe that the only updates to 102.15 will be for something that completely crashes T’Bird, or possibly a zero day security vulnerability.
Because of the aforementioned, everyone running T’Bird 102 needs to keep in mind that Mozilla has said that T’Bird’s releases (release dates) are based upon the ESR schedule of Firefox. That release schedule has the next version of Firefox ESR being released on September 26th, about 3½ weeks from now, as version 115.3.
Since T’Bird 102 won’t be getting any more version updates nor any security updates beyond 102.15.something, it’s reasonable to presume that between now and September 26th, those of us running 102 (myself included 😳 ) will be, in one way or another, offered Thunderbird 115.2, referred to as Supernova. If the offer happens after September 26th, you might even be offered Thunderbird 115.3.
Right now would be a great time to bookmark the link and read the guidance given in @Lars220 ‘s post above. The page at that link has some great info about the new interface and how to tweak it to your own liking. 🙂
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Thunderbird 102 to 115 upgrades are now enabled
Thunderbird 115 is the latest major version of the open source email client. Users of the application, who wanted to upgrade to the new version, had to download and install Thunderbird 115 to do so, up until now.
This changes today, as the email client’s automatic updating system is now offering to upgrade Thunderbird 102 installations to version 115.
The updates are not done automatically, as users of the email client need to seek for the Thunderbird 115 update manually. A click on Help > About Thunderbird opens a small popup window that lists the current installed version and any update that is available at the time…
Thunderbird 115 is the last release version for the Microsoft Windows operating systems Windows 7 and Windows 8 / 8.1…
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I just received a notification from Wired, which reports that “you need to update your browser, like, yesterday.” Thunderbird is on the list and I updated. I am now on 102.15.1. I haven’t seen any mention of this updated version yet in this ‘Thunderbird updates’ topic, though, so here’s a ‘heads up’ on 102.15.x.
Just last 2 posts above yours 🙂
The last two above mine are about 115. My post is about 102. I guess I should have put a red square around “102.15.1” to redirect attention in the screenshot to that. Thunderbird automatically tells you about the new 115 version now, if you want to move up to the new Supernova version, but I’m staying on 102 as long as I can.
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…but I’m staying on 102 as long as I can.
Well, per Mozilla’s release calendar, September 26th is the release date for the next iteration of Firefox, and the T’Bird release calendar is loosely based upon that. I say loosely because Mozilla has come out and said on one of their release information pages that deals with a release calendar that T’Bird’s release dates are up to a few days after the Firefox release dates. Mozilla has publicly stated that 102.15 is the LAST version of the 102 branch, and it won’t receive any more updates of any kind after 115.3 is released.
Here’s the Firefox release calendar (despite the url, it IS a Mozilla page):
https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/
And here’s the page where T’Bird’s release dates are mentioned, complete with the statement about following in Firefox’s “footsteps” (my term, not theirs):
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases
Look under the “Upcoming Releases” heading on the Releases page, and you’ll see the terminology referring to T’Bird’s release schedule.
I hope this helps!
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@WCHS –
Well, I took the plunge last weekend after having T’Bird 102.15.0 compact my mail folders (File>Compact Folders). I clicked the button to upgrade to 115.2 in the image that you showed in your post above (since your image is more recent, the button shows 115.2.2 instead of what I saw, 115.2) and away it went. The entire process took about two or three minutes (if that) and I got the same screen layout I had in 102.15.
PRIOR to the “migration”, I made notes of the settings I might have to change after the upgrade, but I only wound up having to change two of them, both very minor changes.
EDIT: The notes I made for my settings consisted of two or three items in the Settings menu area that I thought I might have to change and items dealing with the screen layout that I thought I might have to change after the migration. I kept these brief notes in a small text file to refer to after the migration. As I said above in the last paragraph, I nearly didn’t need them at all because the installer kept most all of them intact. /END OF EDIT
Many of the items talked about with respect to the initial layout on the scree when T’Bird 115 starts are already in 102, just look for them carefully. I did indeed use @Lars220 ‘s post as a starting point to other pages on Mozilla’s site that have guidance on what’s what (and how to change it if you need to) in the new version of T’Bird.
I hope this helps somewhat!
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I, too, took the plunge today after having followed @Bob99 ‘s suggestion to take notes on 102. Likewise, I had to change a few settings.
I see no advantage to the new Unified Toolbar in 115, though — just another Toolbar that takes over some of the options that other Toolbars in 102 provided. So, now there are three Toolbars at the top: Unified Toolbar, Menu Bar, and Tab Bar. In 102, there were two: the Menu Bar and the Tab Bar.
Which would you rather have — a pie divided into two parts (simpler with two bars at the top? or a pie divided into three parts (more complicated with three bars at the top)? It’s still the same pie, but with more places to look at for the universe of options.
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I have only one toolbar and a menu bar. See picture.
Interesting. I see in your screenshot that the Menu options are part of the Unified Toolbar, below which is the Mail tab. What happens when you right-click on the Unified Toolbar and choose the Menu Bar option?
I think that you have only two Bars because the Tab Bar has only the Mail tab. In #3 of Getting Started, , it says:
In Thunderbird 115, the Tab Bar is only displayed if you have two or more tabs. For example, if you have a Mail tab and a Calendar Tab, the Tab Bar is visible. If you just have one tab like the Mail tab, the Tab Bar automatically disappears.
Here is a screenshot of my Thunderbird screen. The 1st Toolbar, the Unified Toolbar, does not have Menu options incorporated in it. I have chosen to have the Menu Bar displayed, so the Menu options are there in the 2nd Toolbar. And I have more than 1 tab, so the 3rd Toolbar, the Tab Bar, shows up.
When I turn off the Menu Bar, I do not see the Menu options anywhere.
But, I can toggle ALT to get the Menu options to appear or disappear.
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Mozilla Thunderbird, Portable Edition 115.2.3
Thunderbird “Supernova” 115.2.3
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.2.3/releasenotes/
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Does Thunderbird have ESRs?? Firefox does, so does Thunderbird, too?
..The regular Thunderbird release follows the Extended Support Release (ESR) schedule of the Mozilla platform. So it will remain stable and on that major version for approximately one year…
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Mozilla Thunderbird, Portable Edition 115.4.1
Thunderbird “Supernova” 115.4.1
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2023-47/
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