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      • #351917 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        A document was created in Word 2000.

      • #510532 Reply
        WSKB MacKenzie
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        Hello, Dale. Just a shot in the dark, but maybe it’s a security setting on the recipient’s machine. I don’t know where they are in 97, but in 2000 its Tools / Macros / Security.


        • #510546 Reply
          WSGary Frieder
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          In Word 2000, you can set to any of three security levels.
          In Word 97, just two, essentially: On or Off – which can be set in Tools/Options/General.

          An intriguing thing: I’d never saved a toolbar to a document before (as opposed to a template) – but just did so in a test doc in Word 97. Strangest thing: whenever I reopen this file now, I get the macro warning.

          And if I click on “Disable Macros” to open the document as read-only, the toolbar ain’t there! – not even via View/Toolbars.

          I think we’re on to some weird wrinkle of Word behavior but I can’t figure out what!

          • #510811 Reply
            AskWoody Lounger

            Thanks for the tip about security settings.

            • #511148 Reply
              WSPhil Rabichow
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              Another file that contains information about toolbar settings is Word.pip. See if that files changes when you change toolbar settings.

              • #511189 Reply
                AskWoody Lounger

                No, it doesn’t change, Phil.  The only file that changes is user.dat.

              • #511207 Reply
                WSPhil Rabichow
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                Hi Dale:

                I find this to be interesting because I never thought about show/hide if a toolbar was saved with a document. You are correct that the position & show/hide is not saved with a document.

                It should be set the way it was when Word was closed (which confirms what you’ve demonstrated empirically; the option is per user, not per document).

                Still, I wonder what would happen if you renamed the Word.pip file & then had the user open the file, change the toggle the show/hide to the opposite, close Word, then reopen the document. Perhaps without write privileges, the .pip file isn’t changed. I’m just kind of surprised–when I change my toolbars, the Word.pip file is changed.

                However, the following kb article seems to indicate that the settings are contained in the Data key located at


                You can see the article here.

              • #511351 Reply
                AskWoody Lounger

                Thanks, Phil

                I tried renaming word.pip, but it still doesn’t get changed when I change the toolbar setting and close the document.

                Anyway, I’ve solved the particular problem I was having by writing an AutoOpen macro to force the toolbar on (which was the original problem that started me on this little investigation).

                Thanks for your help, Phil

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