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      • #2037450 Reply
        Cthru
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m sure this have been fully covered, so if someone will point me to a link, thank you.

        Having just moved from W7 Pro  to 10 Home (1903) on my PC a few weeks ago, and with the end of the month approaching, I need to know about the new updating procedure. With W7, I could get notification of updates but install manually whichever I wanted, when I wanted. Now I have manual set, i.e., delay, but don’t know what will happen if I enable, i.e., whether I will get a list to download and install, or W will simply barge in and do what it wants. Also, whether, once I allow updates, I have to change the setting back to delay again; I assume so.

      • #2037726 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Having just moved from W7 Pro  to 10 Home (1903)

        How did you upgrade ? Standard update should have installed 1903 Pro, not Home.

        Here is a link by PKCano with recommended Windows 10 update settings :

        Configuring update on win10/pro

        From ver. 1903 Microsoft will suggest downloading feature updates (version 1909..), but you can wait until you are ready.
        There is no direct way to choose montly updates like in Win 7. There are 3rd party tools like Microsoft’s own wushowhide.diagcab, Windows MiniTool.. where you can hide some updates…and there is Microsoft’s Catalog where you can download individual updates.

        • This reply was modified 11 months ago by Alex5723.
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      • #2037773 Reply
        Cthru
        AskWoody Plus

        Thank you. for replying.  W10 home came installed on the new Dell PC.

        The link you posted for updating is for Pro; I don’t have all those options, so my questions remain, unless I have missed something.

        • This reply was modified 11 months ago by Cthru.
        • #2037786 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          With Win10 Home, you have several things you can do to control updates.

          You can use wushowhide.diagcab (from Microsoft) to hide updates. Download it and put it on the desktop. Double click wushowhide, choose “Advanced” then uncheck to apply changes automatically. From there, it will be obvious.

          You can Pause updates for up to 35 days in 7-day increments using the “Pause” button in Settings\Windows Update. When you get ready to install, you can unPause. Note: when you use Pause, at the end of the pause period you will need to install pending updates in the queue before you can use Pause again.

          Feature Updates (next version upgrades) will be offered in a section below the update listing with a link to “download and install now.” So you can upgrade when you get ready.

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      • #2037794 Reply
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        And you can set the active Internet connection to “metered”. Windows will them tell you when updates are available but won’t download them unless you tell it to.

        cheers, Paul

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      • #2037862 Reply
        Cthru
        AskWoody Plus

        Paul and PK, thanks for that.

        I have checked the Patch list for December. It appears that the patches do not have the green light yet, unless I’m mistaken. Unusual; I think they’ve been cleared by the last week in previous months, even during the crazy days of this year’s updates. Since the staff members are on vacation, I’ll just wait.

        Thanks again.

         

      • #2037901 Reply
        Cthru
        AskWoody Plus

        Back again. I went to check the metered connection box, but it say “additional charges may apply.” Is that only for businesses or us home users?

        Thanks.

        • #2037908 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I believe that refers to the charges from your ISP for data transfer. The metered connection setting is intended to limit large downloads (updates/upgrades) if you have a limited data cap from your ISP and will get charged extra if the data exceeds the paid-for amount.

        • #2038096 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          I run my W10 box with a metered connection. Everything still works, it just asks before downloading updates.

          cheers, Paul

      • #2038202 Reply
        Cthru
        Guest

        Hmmm, I’ve no clue about such matters. It’s just the phone company and DSL, the speed of which is highly variable. I imagine there is something about data caps somewhere in that 25-page user agreement conveniently presented in 4-point Arial Narrow.

        I run a pretty simple system and back up regularly. I’ll have to just delay, keep an eye on this site, and employ the tried-and-true scientific method of keeping my fingers crossed.

        • #2038273 Reply
          jabeattyauditor
          AskWoody Lounger

          Cthru, maybe this will help: if you set your network connection to “metered” in Windows, you’re just “lying” to Windows to get it to behave in the manner you want it to behave.

          It won’t change your billing, or your DSL speed, or anything like that – your ISP won’t have a clue that you’ve changed a setting on your end.

          All you’re doing is telling (lying to) Windows that your connection costs you money based on the amount of data you transfer, so it better not just transfer a bunch of updates without giving you option to approve them ahead of time.

          Now, some folks still have connections that really are of this nature – some 4G modems, etc. that have a cap on their data, with per-GB charges beyond that. These folks really HAVE to use the metered setting unless they want Microsoft to arbitrarily increase their costs. You’re not in that situation… but you can make Windows think that you are, and it might behave better as a result.

          Clear as mud?

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      • #2038274 Reply
        firstmerk
        AskWoody Plus

        If the Win7 Pro PC is no longer in service, AND you still have the product key, you….may….be able to use it to upgrade to Win10 Pro by putting it in. MS seems to still allowing upgrades, but not advertising it.
        Windows Settings > Update and Security > Activation > Change Product Key

        I was able to use a Win8 Pro key to do this. That OS was no longer being used.  I have recently upgraded a Win7 Pro (activated) PC to Win10 Pro and it activated.
        I STRONGLY suggest a complete image backup first in case it goes badly. You should be doing complete backups anyway. If it screws up you can go back, which I have also done. I use Macrium free and it works fine.

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