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    #2387447

    Section 1: General Group Policy changes between Win10 and Win11.

    This will probably be my last contribution to Windows Update guidance. I have been running an Insider Preview in a Parallels VM on my MacMini but none of my computers (even my 3-year-old iMac4K with a Kaby Lake i7, 32GB RAM, and Radon Pro graphics)  qualify for Win11 or the Win11 Insider Program.

    There are many changes to Group Policy, and the resulting Registry settings, coming with Win11. And it is my guess they will also be similar changes in Win10 beginning with v20H2.
    For those using Group Policy to control Windows Update in Win11, these are a few of the changes:

    In Win11 Group Policy,the “Windows Update” folder contains four new folders – “Legacy Policies,” “Manage end user experience,'” Manage updates offered from Windows Server Update Service” (WSUS), and “Manage updates offered from Windows Update.” There is no longer a “Windows Update for Business” under “Windows Update”
    1. “Legacy Policies” include settings for installation, restarts, and notifications, and what the user can see.
    2. “Manage end user experience” – contains more about installs and restarts around active hours, what settings the user can see, and “Configure Automatic Updates” with the “2” setting for (notify download/install.
    3. “Manage updates offered from Windows Server Update Service” (WSUS) is settings for bussiness use of WSUS.
    4. “Manage updates offered from Windows Update” is much of what used to be” Windows Update for Business” including deferrals and pauses for Quality/Feature Updates and Preview Builds as well as the settings for TRV.

    For illustration purposes, I will post screenshots of Win10 and Win11 main “Windows Update” Group Policy settings to demonstrate the differences. Below are the individual settings for Win11. For the differences in the individual settings in Group Policy and the corresponding Registry settings for Win10, please refer to AKB2000016 posts #2177509, #2177791, #2275038, #2275043 and #2286499.

    Windows 10 Group Policy “Windows Update:”.

    01Win10_WU

    Windows 10 Group Policy “Windows Update for Business:”.

    02Win10_WUfB

    Windows 11 Group Policy “Windows Update:”.
    There is no longer “Windows update for Business” in Win11.

    03Win11_WU

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    • #2387452

      Section 2: Changes in Group Policy under Windows Update.

      Contents of the four folders under Group Policy for “Windows Update:”.

      1. “Legacy Policies” include settings for installation, restarts, and notifications, and what the user can see.

      04Win11_Legacy

      2. “Manage end user experience” – contains more about installs and restarts around active hours, what settings the user can see, and “Configure Automatic Updates” with the “2” setting for (notify download/install.

      05Win11_MEndUserExp

      The setting for “Configure Automatic Updates” = Enabled, value “2” (Notify download/install) is here.

      06Win11_ConfigAutoUpd

      3. “Manage updates offered from Windows Server Update Service” (WSUS) is settings for bussiness use of WSUS.

      07Win11_MWSUS

      4. “Manage updates offered from Windows Update” is much of what used to be “Windows Update for Business” including deferrals and pauses for Quality/Feature Updates and Preview Builds as well as the settings for TRV.

      08Win11_WU

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    • #2387467

      Section 3: Group Policy – Manage updates offered under Windows Update.

      Contents under Group Policy\Manage updates offered from Windows Updates.

      1. Select when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received.
      Defer Feature Updates after release for up to 365 days for Semi-Annual Channel, until policy change or EOS. NOTE: If you also set TRV, the version specified will take precedence.
      Defer Feature Updates up to 14 days for pre-release channels (Insider).
      Pause Feature Updates up to 35 days.

      15Win11WU_DefFeatPre2

      2. Select when Quality Updates are received.
      Defer Quality Updates after release for up to 30 days.
      Pause Quality Updates for up to 35 days. To resume receiving Quality Updates, clear the field.

      16Win11WU_DefQual2

      3. Disable safeguards for Feature Updates.
      Disable blocking of safeguard holds (for compatibility issues) for testing purposes.

      17Win11WU_DisSafgrd2

      4. Do not include drivers with Windows Updates.

      18Win11WU_NoDrvrs2

      5. Mange preview Builds.
      Manages Insider Preview channels.

      19Win11WU_MPrevInsider2

      6.Select the Target Product Version and Target Feature Update Version (TRV).
      Set Product and version. Win10 and Win 11 will be know by the same version (example 21H1), so the Product must also be specified (Windows 10 or Windows 11). NOTE: Setting TRV implies “I accept the Microsoft Software License Terms.”

      20Win11WU_TRV2

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    • #2387623

      Section4: Registry Settings Part 1.

      Registry Settings for Win11 (paralleling those for Win10 in AKB2000016).
      Part 1.

      1. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate.
      Settings show whether Feature Update Deferral and/or Quality Update Deferral are turned on.
      Settings show whether Drivers are excluded in Quality Updates.
      Settings show Start Time if Pause Feature Updates or Pause Quality Updates is set.
      Settings show Targeted Product and Targeted Version (TRV).

      21Win11WU_Pol-MS-Win-WU

      If the TRV settings remain here, the TRV script may need the ProductVersion added:

      Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
      
      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREPoliciesMicrosoftWindowsWindowsUpdate]
      "TargetReleaseVersion"=dword:00000001
      "TargetReleaseVersionInfo"="21H2"
      "ProductVersion" = "Winsows 10" (or "Windows 11")

      2. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU.
      Configure Automatic UpdatesEnabled, Value = 2 (notify download/install.
      This setting is in the same location in the Registry for Win10 and Win11.
      Scheduled Install Day and Time will be shown here if set.

      22Win11WU_Pol-MS-Win-WU-AU

      3. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UpdatePolicy\PolicyState.
      Most of these settings are the same as were set bi “Windows Update for Business” up to Win10 v21H1. Since WUfB does not exist in Win11, the Deferral Settings do not appear to be active. The Policy Source settings are different and a “TargetProductVersion” setting has been added. Compare Win10 settings in second screenshot #2177791 and first screenshot in #2275038.

      23Win11WU_MS-WU-UpdPol-PolState

    • #2387629

      Section 5: Registry Settings Part 2.

      Registry Settings for Win11 (similar to those for Win10 in AKB2000016).
      Part 2.

      4. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UpdatePolicy\Settings.
      Settings show the status of Paused Feature and Quality updates.

      24Win11WU_MS-WU-UpdPol-Sets

      5. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX.
      Settings indicate Active hours, Download over Metered Connections, Exclude drivers with Quality updates, Flight settings (Insider), and “2” (for notify download/install ?).
      These appear to reflect GUI settings from the Settings App. They were not set in the installation of Win11 demonstrated.

      25Win11WU_MS-WU-Ux

      6. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\StateVariables.

      26Win11WU_MS-WU-Ux-StVar

    • #2387573

      Exceptional (last?) WU walkthrough PK, I doubt last, there will be many changes ahead.
      Although this is ‘subject to change’ for both Windows versions come 21H2 RTM dates.
      Remember, Win11 is still pre-RTM with a month for MSFT to obfuscate further.

      ********** Under construction *************
      Please be patient.

      ********** Under construction *************
      Please be a patient.

      Should have included this in the W10 EULA back on 29th July 2015 going forward..

      | Quality over Quantity |
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    • #2387656

      I haven’t looked into it in such depth as @PKCano.

      However, I’ve seen the increasing restrictions in what Joe/Joan end-user can do and have decided to avoid it for the time being until the RTM version is released.

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