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    Posted on millerah Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Questions: Win10 Upgrading From 1809 to 1903

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      • #1999084 Reply
        millerah
        AskWoody Lounger

        Woody:

        In your Computer World article of November 1, How to block the Windows 10 November 2019 Update, Version 1909, from Installing, you state that you are seriously considering moving on to version 1903 from version 1809.

        Could you please let us know when the time is ripe to do so?

        I do have a question on potentially moving to version 1903 (I am currently on 1809 waiting for the green light from you). If we upgrade after the release of version 1909, might we run the risk of being pushed directly to that version by Windows update?

        I have the ISO file for version 1903 which I intend to use to move up. When using these files to upgrade,  the set up procedure always asks if you want to check for updates. Even if you don’t check for updates during the upgrade you will have to do so afterwards.

        You have classified Version 1909’s upgrade process as a service pack in reality. It will update much like a cumulative update, thus perhaps being treated as a quality update of sorts. With Windows Update open, would there be a possibility for Microsoft to push the upgrade directly to version 1909?

        Perhaps now, before the release of version 1909 might be the ideal time to move to version 1903.

        I would appreciate your guidance on this matter.

        Regards

        millerah

        • This topic was modified 11 months ago by millerah.
      • #1999100 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        If you use the ISO to upgrade to 1903 from 1809, you should disconnect from the Internet before doing so.
        This will prevent any further upgrades to 1909 and give you the option to review your settings and be sure they are correct before you reconnect to MS.
        You have until May 2020, before 1809 is EOL, to decide when to move up to the next version.

      • #2021982 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        I have feature updates deferred for 210 days.  I am on 1809, when will 1903 be installed? Do I run the risk of 1909 installing itself ?

        • #2021996 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          On Dec 9th, the break point was somewhere between 120 and 150 days.between 1809 and 1903. So add the number of days between then and now for safe number of days for 1903.

          1909 was released on Nov 12th. Count the number of days from then and make the deferral greater than that to avoid 1909 and get 1903. As of 12/21, that was 39 days ago, so greater than say 50 to be safe today. But understand, the target is moving.

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          Ken
      • #2021994 Reply
        tcc089
        AskWoody Plus

        Hi Ken – to upgrade to 1903 and avoid 1909, please see the previous post by PKCano.

        Cheers!

         

        • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by tcc089.
      • #2022091 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        Thank you PCKano: Let me see if I understand what you are saying:

        You said 12/9/19 was the breakpoint between 120 and 150 days between 1809 and 1903: does that mean 1809 was released between 7/12/19 and 8/11/19? If so, with my deferral of 120 days 1903 would install between 2/7/20 and 3/8/20?

        If 1909 was released 11/12/19 , then with my 210 day deferral it should not be installed before 6/9/20?

        I guess your first sentence is confusing me.

        Should I change my deferral days?

        • #2022098 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          There was a special one-time 60 day adjustment for 1803 and 1809 because MS changed the way they counted (they eliminated SAC (Targeted)).
          If you set deferral at 120 days now you will get 1903 (because 1909 has not been out 120 days). But the upper safe limit today is 120 + the number of days from 12/9 to today.
          Since you are on 1809 already, if you set it at 150 days + the number of days from 12/9 to today, you will get nothing b/c 1903 hasn’t been out that long.

          For 1903 and 1909, it’s the number of days from release.
          For 1803 and 1809, it’s the number of days from release + 60

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      • #2022101 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        Thank you! Now I cannot find the info on changing the deferrals….. I save many newsletters but can’t find it! Can you send me the link, please?

      • #2022173 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        Oops, forgot to log in, so my last reply went “anonymous”! I’ll try to repeat it here:

        Changed deferral to 163 days, then 133, then 120. rebooting each time and running wushowhide. No hidden updates after each change.  So…. leave it alone and go back to 210 days? I wanted to install 1903 after AskWoody went to Defcon 4 a couple of weeks ago. Other ideas?

        • #2022179 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          In Group Policy set Configure Automatic Updates – Enabled, value =2 (notify download/install)
          In Windows Update\Advanced Settings set SAC, Feature=120, Quality=0
          Be sure you have NO pause set anywhere.
          And wait for the computer to check for updates on its own.
          It may take up to 36 hours.
          You should be offered 1903, but it won’t download until you click the “Download” button.

      • #2022175 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        I have another pc, W10 Home which is on 1903. I want to upgrade to W10 Pro. Will 1909 be installed automatically? How do I avoid this?

        • #2022180 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          All you have to do is buy a Pro license key.
          Then change the license key:
          Control Panel\System Change product key
          OR
          Settings App\System\About Change product key or upgrade your Edition (Home, Pro, etc)

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          Ken
      • #2022184 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        You said “In Group Policy set Configure Automatic Updates – Enabled, value =2 (notify download/install)”

        Where is this??

      • #2022534 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        Thank you! Did not get to do your last suggestion: 1903 installed automatically last night. Now re-rest deferrals to 210 and 21 days.

        • #2022539 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If you make the setting in Group Policy, the updates won’t doenload automatically.
          There will be a Download button, so you can control the “when.”
          Even after your deferral time is up, they wait for you.
          It works like the “Scan for updates but let me choose when to download and install them” in Win7.

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          Ken
      • #2022544 Reply
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        Done, thank you! Happy Holidays!

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