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I have mostly ignored updates on my GFs computer because it is mostly a single use computer: JewelQuest2. It is a flakey program at best, but the worst remedy for its problems has been a reboot. Now it seems kb4480966 is clobbering it ( not yet confirmed ).
So I ask is there a way to keep W10 HOME ver 1803 from installing updates at the whim of Redmont? Is wushide an only option ?? (not yet tried)

BTW does JewelQuest2 have a Linux version (sic)

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You can set metered connections under Settings>Network.

And/or. you can use some of the third-party blockers.

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I set it to on, that will suffice ?

I am noting that JQ2 does not seem to be crashing the system after the reinstall of kb4480966 now, butit does spontaneously set itself to a window in the middle of play.

ho hum..

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Read in the tools section about programs that stop forced updates, and use one of them. You can also search the site for each program and pick up the comments on it.

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Thanks PK
but I really prefer to make the changes needed to my os by my own means and know just what is being done…..

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I understand where you’re coming from. The only way to do that from the OS is to upgrade to Pro. Home has few options.

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Thanks PK but I really prefer to make the changes needed to my os by my own means and know just what is being done…..

@wavy … I can totally understand where you are coming from.
Several of us WindowsHome users have posted alternatives for blocking updates from Microsoft, other than updating to the Pro version of Windows. Off the top of my head, @Microfix and I each posted an option. While both of our options required a download of 3rd party programs to attain your requested function, there is a way you can personally preform the same task by using your registry editor. I hesitate to post the DIY procedure. Registry editing can make your machine angry, you aren’t tickling the dogs belly, you could be yanking on it’s tail.

Believe it or don’t, the reason that solution isn’t posted is because (I think I can say ‘we’ collectively) I really, really, really don’t want to push a BSOD or other nasty happenings upon you (or anyone) should it be attempted and fails miserably. I know how to do the edit trick and I still defer to a program to do it for me. No muss, no fuss.

That said:
When I 1st started blocking WUD, I used Stopupdates10
It’s a small robust program, very small footprint, with very low system resource use. It did exactly what you are looking for. Single click on the desktop icon and all settings are reversed. You don’t know me from Adam, but trust when I say it works as advertised. I also liked that it was free.

@Microfix posted another program that did what mine did with way more options/functions than just blocking WUD. You can find it here: O&O Shutup I would suggest you have a look~see at the “read me” to see what the program can do. If you like to tinker, this is a good program for that. I have installed O&O Shutup and now use it instead of Stopupdates10, only because it has more buttons to push 🙂 Both will do what you are asking for. This one is also free. Neither of these programs has junk/malware/spyware etc, bundled in them. According to my installation of GlassWire, neither “Phones Home.”

You could start doing it yourself by editing the registry, or like many do, leave sleeping dogs alone. Microsoft may be asleep at the wheel a lot of the time, but you can believe it isn’t asleep on your computer in any Home version. Put a leash on that dog!
ymmv

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Thanks PK guess I will have to just ‘live’ with it on that box….

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@Wavy you could try third party software, there have been a few on this forum who like to use WUB (Windows Update Blocker) which is available at windows-update-blocker-v1-1
Some experienced users may chime in and assist should you need help as I haven’t used it.

Another is Windows Update Mini Tool (WUMT) or WUMgr which you could read about over at win10.guru
and here I have used WUMT for 1803 on the W10 pro version which I prefer over WUshowhide.

Note: I have no association/ affiliation with company or developers etc..

Keeping IT Lean, Clean and Mean!

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Thanks Microfix
however I really prefer a solution I can keep an eye on, i.e. instuctions no matter how convoluted I can see.
Regards,
David

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@microfix hey thx for the link to David Xantos’s little WUMGR I have been looking around for it for ages, all I managed to find was the GitHub code page. I had one of the early Beta’s early part of last year and it showed a good deal of promise but alas it was a Beta, so I didn’t persist with it. I Love the finished version its more fully featured than WUMT and at least as opposed to WUMT we at least know its, Parentage unlike WUMT and it seems there’s a good chance of regular updates and improvements. In early testing/tinkering you can set elevated mode rather than having to set up an elevated mode manually, its fast, indeed so fast using with Task Scheduler its prudent to set 1 mins delay and the great news is the -update switch (same as WUMT) still works albeit in a different part of the created Task properties. I did a little Autorun/check for updates trick for WUMT involving Task Scheduler, may just amend it for WUMGR. I am loathe to change WUD in any way mainly because any Reg Level changes seem to have to be redone after every update or blocking any update that may be actually of some use, I suppose trying to restore or get as close to the WUD model as we enjoyed on Win8.1 and 7.

PS I did an updated Topic for using WUMGR Auto run at logon and Elevated Shortcut and seems to run well: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/wumgr-auto-run-logon-and-elev-shortcut/

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PPS Scrub that last link @kirsty very kindly moved the Topic I composed to David Xantos’s WUMGR Topic/thread, a much more appropriate location I would imagine to keep a bit of continuity in Subject matter: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/windows-update-manager-wumgr/#post-309850
Hope that helps @wavy a little bit 🙂

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wavy wrote:

Thanks PK but I really prefer to make the changes needed to my os by my own means and know just what is being done…..

@wavy … I can totally understand where you are coming from.

Believe it or don’t, the reason that solution isn’t posted is because (I think I can say ‘we’ collectively) I really, really, really don’t want to push a BSOD or other nasty happenings upon you (or anyone) should it be attempted and fails miserably. I know how to do the edit trick and I still defer to a program to do it for me. No muss, no fuss.

You could start doing it yourself by editing the registry, or like many do, leave sleeping dogs alone. Microsoft may be asleep at the wheel a lot of the time, but you can believe it isn’t asleep on your computer in any Home version. Put a leash on that dog!
ymmv

By all means please do post DYI on how to edit the registry to do what I wish. FYI I have backups and am fearless as well as fearful…

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The problem with making registry changes on Home versions is that Microsoft does not respect them. You can set them, but they will not be honored. That is why the recommendation is to move to a Pro version for that kind of control.

@MrBrian looked at various ways to control W10 updating. He hasn’t updated it, but you might be interested in what he tried, and the various results.

What has worked best is metered setting and wushide… at least that is what my one and only family member still running W10 has found.

You might have your girlfriend look over the options on GOG as they have many DRM free games available for Linux (Windows too). That particular game isn’t there, but there are plenty of other options.

Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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@MrBrian hasn’t posted here in ages, unfortunately..
Windows 10 has evolved/ devolved (take your pick) since then.
So, how difficult is it to export a ‘tweaked’ reg key and then merge it back once patched, restarting the PC to implement the setting?
In some repects, it’s no different from GPEdit in Pro versions.

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Elly wrote:

The problem with making registry changes on Home versions is that Microsoft does not respect them. You can set them, but they will not be honored. That is why the recommendation is to move to a Pro version for that kind of control.

At the end my post #309877  it includes some bold text on one line. I didn’t want to quote out of context so the paragraph was included. It points out the quest to control Microsoft’s forced updates didn’t start yesterday. My other point was to use a polished registry tweak that not only prevents unwanted updates but stops Microsoft from undoing the tweak, and one that won’t wreck your machine. That users should be forced to purchase an elevated form of Windows to do what should be included in the OS to start with is … not good.  It can be called whatever you fancy calling it, Move, Buy or be Extorted.

I bought it, I own it, I can modify it any way I care to  it. If it doesn’t work after adjustments are made, that’s on the user, not Microsoft.   I reject the concept of, “You can’t do that.”

That’s my story and I like it. 🙂

I don’t use WuMgr, I only used the blurb from Mr. Tittel

postscript: Microsoft has repeatedly shown it doesn’t respect users, or users settings. Some people grow weary  of turning the other cheek and fight back. It’s a dirty job.

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@wevy-
When I said I knew where you are coming from I meant it. When I hear “You can’t do that” I go into high gear and attempt to prove that statement wrong. Sometimes I win, other times not. This one didn’t go into the win column. I didn’t give up, I learned what not to do from it.

On every respected Windows website where I searched for my big break, I heard the same voice. It was like they were all on the same page and I was reading a different book.

Eventually when you hear from enough people who’s opinions you respect, the old quest ends and a new one begins. In this case, instead of doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, I realized it was time to let those who are better at this than I am have a chance. I chose what I felt was a good program, and later moved on to a different one.

I like having control of my computer at all times, the mentioned programs controls Windows Updates, at least they do today, who knows what Microsoft will do to prevent them from working tomorrow. Check out those programs, the small amount of control you allow them is well worth it. You still control the controls.

AskWoody’s has more checks and balances than any web presence of it’s kind I know of, and it’s civil. If a program like I and others have posted is not as advertised it will get bad feedback. It serves no function for us to pass on bad advice. The benefits of my posting (Hacks) registry edit instructions are outweighed by the possible damage it could cause. What will work on my computer might be a disaster for other computers at the worse, and an exercise in futility at the least. I mentioned the regedit because it was germane to my choosing a different solution.

From the website @Microfix mentioned above:
Ed Tittel, 30 years in computers says:
“I think WuMgr is a must-have tool for any serious Windows 10 administrator or power user. It restores complete and explicit control over how, when, and which updates will be applied to a target PC, which is something that has vexed and eluded most users since Windows 10 was introduced in October 2014. This is a terrific, highly usable program that should be part of the general admin toolkit for Windows 10, period.”

I don’t use WuMgr, yet.

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Bluetrix wrote:

From the website @microfix mentioned above:
Ed Tittel, 30 years in computers says:
“I think WuMgr is a must-have tool for any serious Windows 10 administrator or power user. It restores complete and explicit control over how, when, and which updates will be applied to a target PC, which is something that has vexed and eluded most users since Windows 10 was introduced in October 2014. This is a terrific, highly usable program that should be part of the general admin toolkit for Windows 10, period.”

Well, to be exact, it’s *one* such tool, there’s several more out there… some are free, some are rather expensive, some in between – and value for money does vary too, as do exact capabilities.

Most of them would seem to require at least a Pro variant of Windows 10, though.

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Thanks too all for advice and links!
I like the WuMgr solution, it being open source is a big plus. I was unaware that o&O shutup was an option for blocking updates, I need to look into both. WinUpdateToggler.cmd is also of interest as it seems to be at first look a cmd file that works the reggie and its functions are there for the looking. At this point I am going to just try a couple of reg edits that I have been using in conjunction with GPO on my main machine. `HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU
NoAutoUpdate 1(DWORD)
HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU
NoAutoUpdate 1(DWORD) `

I have forgotten just what I had done on that machine but those were 2 of the changes I made. I am not sure which post reminded me of this but thanks to whomever.

mmm upon reflection I see that one of those reg keys are for a 64 bit O/S which I would not need on the ‘game’ machine.

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I have forgotten just what I had done on that machine but those were 2 of the changes I made.

I’ve done like you have with regedit and forgot an item or three, having learned to backup my reg before experimenting cya’ed me more than once. I honestly believe a program doing it for you is the better road taken, provided there is such a program. Otherwise I’m back to nip n tuck, zero this and two that value. Even with backups, the faintest ink is far better than a good memory. I am ambivalent to whether or not a program is OSS or CSS as long as it does the job and GlassWire tells me it isn’t “reaching.” Good luck!

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I’ve done like you have with regedit and forgot an item or three, having learned to backup my reg before experimenting cya’ed me more than once. I honestly believe a program doing it for you is the better road taken, provided there is such a program.
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For my previous main box I used to keep a log for stuff i did. Should have kept that up for the new (well not so new now) box.
A good backup is folks best friend….

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