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    The rollout of Waterfox G4, the latest “Current” version of this browser, started a while ago and continues; now I finally have received it. I plan to keep using the previous version, G3, that works well enough for me, while testing this new one before deciding which one to use in the future.

    The “Classic” form of Waterfox, the one old and familiar to many that have used WF and has been rather neglected by its developers in recent times after work began on “Current”, is starting a new life as an Open Source Project and can be obtained from the Waterfox main site.
    This older version, perhaps as a result of getting less of the developer’s attention, has become progressively less useful as browser, because less and less sites work well with it.

    Anyone interested that has something to say after trying this new version of “Current”, or knows something about good old “Classic” and its new lease of life, may consider posting here a comment with such information.

    More here:
    https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/waterfox_firefox_fork/

    And here

    https://www.ghacks.net/2021/11/04/waterfox-classic-development-will-continue-but-as-a-separate-project-from-g4/

    Excerpts from these articles:

    The Register:

    Waterfox targets higher-end PCs and Macs. Lead developer Alex Kontos started it when he was a student as a project to build a 64-bit edition of Firefox long before Mozilla offered such a thing. He went on to remove controversial features such as Mozilla’s telemetry, sponsored links, and bundled additions such as Pocket.

    Notably, the project forked and continued work on Firefox 56, the last version to support classic add-ons, while back-porting subsequent security fixes. That branch is now known as Waterfox Classic. Along with supporting older extensions, Waterfox Classic also supports older versions of Mac OS X back to 10.7, making it useful for users left stranded when new Apple OS releases no longer support their hardware.

    Meanwhile, development based off the modern Firefox codebase continues. The third release, Waterfox G3, was based on Firefox 78 and added support for Chrome and Opera extensions, allowed the tab bar to sit below the URL box, and re-enabled the status bar. Waterfox G4, based on Firefox 91, adds support for Arm-compatible Macs (and soon Arm Linux), and starts the process of switching from tracking Mozilla’s ESR releases to the central branch.

    The project is not without its own controversies, such as its purchase by ad vendor System1. But currently, it’s thriving, unlike its progenitor.

     

    Ghacks: Waterfox G4.0.2 update released

    “[…] Waterfox G4.0.2 has been released. The update introduces the Waterfox Classic theme, Australis. The release notes for the new version states that there are some new preferences in about:preferences#privacy. It doesn’t mention what the new options are, when I compared it to the previous release the only change that I could see is that Waterfox G4.0.2’s Standard protection will block Cross-site cookies in Private Windows.

    Waterfox Classic development will continue

    Kontos [Alex Kontos, the creator and main developer of Waterfox] has confirmed that Waterfox Classic will continue to be supported, but it will exist as a separate open-source project from Waterfox G4. The developer cites that it has been difficult to keep the browser up to date with the main project, which is why the two variants have been diverged.

    This is a welcome move for multiple reasons. Firstly, users who relied on it will get new versions. But more importantly, this will improve the development process of the browser, because previously, issues related to both versions were tackled together.
    Now that Waterfox Classic has its own Github repository, users will be able to track and report issues related specifically to it. And since it is no longer tied with G4, issues won’t be closed because of complications/incompatibilities with the modern version.

    Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

    MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
    Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
    Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

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      Would you care to explain and expand on how to mitigate the various unfixed security advisories in the classic version? We would be highly interested in your expertise in this field.
      https://github.com/WaterfoxCo/Waterfox-Classic/wiki/Unpatched-Security-Advisories
      thanks

      • #2403513

        Sorry, Anonymous, I am not the expert that can answer your question, that is a very timely one.

        I have started this tread so people can provide here opinions, ideas and information on the new versions of both “Current” and “Classical”, so now we both are waiting to hear from those with expertise enough to provide information. And anything else that is relevant by way of opinions and ideas.

        Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

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      And, once more, the “search” feature in the new Waterfox “Current”, G4, is not working. The developers have brought back the problematic “proton” skin, so … To be more precise, if you set the search to mark the word searched wherever it happens to be, yes it does that. But if one clicks on the “v” or “^” shaped buttons to search up or down from current position, the search jumps to pages where the sought after word shines by its absence.

      Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

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          Thanks, Alex. Not a very impressive change. At least what is described in the article you have linked is not impressive. Maybe there is more to G4 than that? I mean, to  justify releasing a new “G” version?

          And, sadly, the search function is still not working after reading the article.

          Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

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