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  • What’s the best way to move from Win10 1803 or 1809 Home to 1903?

    Home Forums AskWoody blog What’s the best way to move from Win10 1803 or 1809 Home to 1903?

    This topic contains 12 replies, has 8 voices, and was last updated by  abbodi86 2 weeks, 1 day ago.

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    • #2008434 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      I just found a conversation that has me wondering if there’s a better way. Right now, if you have Win10 version 1803 or 1809 Home that’s been held tha
      [See the full post at: What’s the best way to move from Win10 1803 or 1809 Home to 1903?]

    • #2008448 Reply

      Tex265
      AskWoody Plus

      Moving a Pro system to a specific version is easy. But what if you want to move to Home 1903 (or 1809) using Microsoft’s officially sanctioned software?

      Woody, this post raises questions awaiting answers.

      Several days ago in another post wherein you discussed moving to 1903/1909 from 1809/1903 there was no commentary regarding moving from 1803 other than it will be discussed in the next couple days.

      Could you please elaborate on this posted subject as well as details on the best way/ways to move to 1903/1909 from 1809 Pro.  Pls include what Feature deferral days to utilize to get the Windows Updater to download each version.

      Windows 10 Pro x64 v1903 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
      • #2008468 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I’m putting together a couple of Computerworld articles.

        The Pro upgrade is easy to target – just get the right number of feature deferral days. I’ll have to calculate them exactly when the article goes out, but @pkcano has posted about it several times.

        The Home upgrade is a mess, unless you have a copy of 1809 or 1903 in your hip pocket. And folks with 1803 Home need a clear guide – which I’ll put together, probably sometime this week.

        I’m looking for people with hands-on experience upgrading, especially with Home. I was quite surprised to read that one of the posters had been upgraded from 1809 Home to 1909, without a “Download and install now” prompt. It’s not clear if the poster turned off metered connection to prompt the upgrade, and/or if they clicked “Check for updates.”

        It’s all ridiculous complicated. What I want to come up with is a cookbook step-by-step procedure that’s based on what people have actually seen, not what MS says (or hints) will happen.

    • #2008636 Reply

      RetiredGeek
      AskWoody MVP

      I’ll preface this by saying this was just my case and YMMV and yes I had a full image backup!

      I attempted to update my wife’s Dell XPS  137000 t0 W10 1909.

      I had assumed (big mistake) that she was already on 1903 but say it ain’t so Joe it was on 1809! How I found this out was by downloading and running Windows10Upgrade9252.exe.
      The process ran as expected but when I fired up a command prompt and entered WinVer lo and behold it showed 1809. Say What!!!!

      So I fired it up again and this time sat there and watched it, rather that go away and work on my computer and then come back and check for actions I had to take. Things progressed as they had on my two other machines and this time when I fired up WinVer I got 1909.

      So maybe you just have to run twice for versions older than 1903???? 😎

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

    • #2008660 Reply

      jhvance
      AskWoody Lounger

      If you’re dealing with a memory-constrained 32Gb eMMC tablet, it’s so unlikely you’ll be able to free up the required 7 Gb of space that even with an external USB option that’s both recognized and capable of being utilized (i.e., a thumb drive, not an SD card),  the process is doomed to fail.  I have not yet re-installed the original image (v1507 as I recall) to attempt the direct upgrade from it to 1909 and see if that will work (it’s what was required to get to 1809).  What a PITA, even if it does work…

      • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  jhvance. Reason: clarify syntax
      • #2008995 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        If you’re dealing with a memory-constrained 32Gb eMMC tablet, it’s so unlikely you’ll be able to free up the required 7 Gb of space that even with an external USB option that’s both recognized and capable of being utilized (i.e., a thumb drive, not an SD card),  the process is doomed to fail.

        An SD card can also be used to extend storage during updates:

        Get more space with external storage
        You can temporarily gain extra space by using an external storage device like a USB drive, an SD card, or an external hard drive.
        Free up space for Windows 10 updates

        Windows 10 Version 1909 (Group ASAP)

    • #2008661 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      In my test with 1803 Home, 1903 was pushed (i.e. initializing and preparing)
      but i didn’t continue the upgrade to see if optional 1909 get applied too or not

      here is a batch script that offer options to install any Windows 10 version (1607 or later)
      it’s a wrapper for all MCT versions
      https://pastebin.com/bBw0Avc4

      all download links are from Microsoft, nothing suspicious 🙂

      6 users thanked author for this post.
      • #2008678 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Bingo.

        That’s what I was looking for.

        Looks like 1809 Home users can breathe a little easier.

      • #2008972 Reply

        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        The URLs look solid. Even under Linux both the MCT and the .CAB can be downloaded. I haven’t tested whether or how these two items work together to produce the desired version of the upgrade. (Using them under Windows 10 Pro Version 1809, of course.) Personally, I simply downloaded the 1903 upgrade media before the change to 1909 took place at the Microsoft sites.  My USB installer seems to be ready to go as soon as I back up my existing 1809 installation and its data. That should be by the end of this weekend.

         

        -- rc primak

      • #2008987 Reply

        KP
        AskWoody Plus

        This looks interesting. I will have to try it. Thanks

      • #2011014 Reply

        KP
        AskWoody Plus

        I know I am not suppose to run it on non-admin mode but I was curious if the ISO download would work. My experiment was on 1809, so it creates a MediaCreationTool1809.exe (MCT) and then it gets into trouble.

        Logging into admin mode and running the MCT file The 1809 ISO file was downloaded; very nicely done.

        I looked through the script; I think I am going to have to un-comment and edit x64 to x86 for a 32-bit ISO.

        I previously downloaded the 1809 ISO (many months ago) and did a SHA256 calculation and comparison of the two. They are different. I suspect the newer ISO has some Microsoft Updated incorporated in it.

        I have not decided if I like this method better than setting the browser user agent to be non-Windows. Setting browser user agent to be non-Windows, only give you access to two ISO versions. Hence each technique is going to have its advantages.

        • #2011063 Reply

          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          MCT itself requireAdministrator privileges, even if you use it just for download

    • #2008990 Reply

      KP
      AskWoody Plus

      Until I read any better information, I am going to use the 1809 ISO to update 1803 Home/Pro.

      It was good to hear what happened with Windows Update: https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-windows-10-feature-updates-dont-go-smoothly/

       

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