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      • #2388935
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FKtTg5VRSU …so the average Windows 11 user launches Xbox game pass (extra fee), launches into teams (extra subscrip
        [See the full post at: Where’s the security?]

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2388939
        anonymous
        Guest

        There is no security in Windows 11. There are already 15 new remote exploits found in the beta version of it according to dark net. Not to mention all that exist in Windows 10 that apply to Windows 11 as well. MS does not focus on security, which is the lowest priority for them. MS has hired several black hat hackers that are bring several back doors into the OS. None at MS cares about that.

        • #2388945
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          Actually they hire folks to fuzz/test it, not to intentionally plant back doors.  Seriously.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2388948
        PaulK
        AskWoody Lounger

        MS does not focus on security, which is the lowest priority for them. MS has hired several black hat hackers that are bring several back doors into the OS. None at MS cares about that.

        There is too much contention in the world today. In mine opinion this is a libelous assertion, and is a technique used by trollers to start a back-and-forth that generates heat and smoke.

        Please document your statements. And please identify yourself.

        I am no lover of Microsoft, but I don’t publicly bash them either.

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        • #2388975
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          Want a job attacking Windows?

          Principal PM Lead in Redmond, Washington, United States | Engineering at Microsoft

          As the leader of this team, you will define the security development requirements, security design review, pen test and REDTEAM strategy, OS configuration and hardening recommendations, scalable fuzzing, static analysis, and security metrics to track progress and future goals.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

        • #2388991
          anonymous
          Guest

          Key point that MS lacks security focus were SolarWinds and HAFNIUM. These two took most of the source code for many OS (Windows Xp, 7, 10, and 11) and other topic secret info. Now those are release in the wild for people that know how to find it.

          “This most notably includes Microsoft Security, who failed to defend against the HAFNIUM attacks which exploited weaknesses in their own product line. Based on information provided by Microsoft, customers using Microsoft ATP had no protection against the attack against Microsoft Exchange services, and Microsoft hasn’t released any guidance regarding what exactly they intend to do to fix this situation.

          Furthermore, Microsoft recently admitted they would not have been aware of the SolarWinds attacks had it not been for a chance observation by an employee at security firm FireEye and subsequent intelligence sharing that brought the attacks to their attention: “Without this transparency, we would likely still be unaware of this campaign,” Microsoft President Brad Smith told Congress in testimony about the SolarWinds attacks in February.

          This is not the first time Microsoft products have been subject of a vulnerability exploit, and it won’t be the last. Organizations deserve more from the vendors that provide security solutions, especially if those solutions are supposed to protect their own operating systems and other software offerings from attacks.

          If Microsoft wants to be a leader in the security space, they should demand more of themselves and so should their customers. Most companies don’t have the luxury of being a massive conglomerate with infinite access to the market like Microsoft. Being a larger player in the business systems space and offering security as an add-on at little-to-no cost by way of licensing bundles (as with the notorious E5 license) demands that security offerings be at least minimally effective – especially in defending their own products and services.

           

           

          Microsoft Security was clearly incapable of protecting tens-of-thousands of Microsoft Exchange customers against the HAFNIUM attacks despite what would seem to be an obvious advantage in defending one of their own offerings. Like the SolarWinds attacks, they admitted publicly they simply could not detect the HAFNIUM operation. Perhaps Microsoft should take yet another page out of Apple’s playbook and focus on the safety and protection of their products, and leave the protection game to the security pros.

           

          ”  https://www.cybereason.com/blog/hafnium-and-solarwinds-attacks-highlight-lack-of-accountability

          (note moderator edited to remove the broken html in the post)

      • #2388971
        Steve S.
        AskWoody Plus

        A slick visual pitch but without real detail. Mostly just selling “sizzle” via hyperbole. Didn’t impress me at all.

        The preponderance of the comments are about the “cool factor” of the ad itself and the commentors seem to be those that focus on games, social media, music, trendiness, style, etc and not on usability, productivity or efficiency.

        It appears to me most of the poster’s logic go something like this: “This ad is so cool, therefore the OS must be cool, too!”

        Am I wrong? 😉

        Win10 Pro x64 20H2, Win10 Home 20H2, Linux Mint + a cat with 'tortitude'.

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      • #2388999
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        Steve S wrote: “It appears to me most of the poster’s logic go something like this: “This ad is so cool, therefore the OS must be cool, too!” ” Steve, that one is for the ages!

        Also, in case someone does not know this: MS is not likely to be hiring “Black Hat” hackers.” If it is hiring criminals to commit crimes, inevitably with some paperwork and other revealing evidence that, even if hidden, may be found and can be examined by the police, including the hacks themselves that can be traced back to those responsible, that would not be good for MS, and at MS they have enough lawyers in their employ to know this. Now, MS is likely to be hiring “White Hat” hackers: professional experts in finding loopholes and security weak points by testing software the way a competent hacker would go about trying to defeat its security measures, something that is a valuable and decent thing to do and also, as a job, I imagine it to be quite interesting and financially rewarding.

        Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

      • #2389022
        Mele20
        AskWoody Lounger

        Microsoft should get with current fashion….I haven’t seen a woman with ugly, male looking hair like hers since I came to Hawaii almost 50 years ago. (Women here, of all ages, have long, gorgeous hair not hair out of the 50’s)! And I should be interested in Windows 11 when obviously Microsoft has gone backwards 70 years?

        Besides what does such a silly, devoid of any information about Windows 11, ad have to do with giving me information that might make me want Windows 11? I saw no useful information…just an attempt to distract the males looking at the ad so they would not notice that there is nothing in that ad that tells you anything useful about why you should want to upgrade to Windows 11 or buy a new computer to get it…geez. Really pathetic.

        I can upgrade this Dell XPS 8930 that will be four years old in December but after seeing that inane ad why would I want to?

      • #2389027
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        Hey! Mele20: “just an attempt to distract the males looking at the ad

        Let it be known that I am a male and I am not distracted by ads, least of all by those content-free for Windows 11 such as the one that, inexplicably, occupies us here at the moment.

        Also I have observed in the course of my rather long life a fair number of distracted women, and not just by ads, although by those too. I have had a number of those as relatives, friends and girlfriends. I would not be surprised if these same women were to be distracted by the content-free Windows 11 ad if they looked at it. There, I said it.

        Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

      • #2389201
        anonymous
        Guest

        I don’t buy into that security BS Microsoft tries to sell me on every time a new Windows version comes out. Did the same with Windows 10 as well and we all know that didn’t pan out. Heck I am still on Win 8.1 on one of my laptops and it doesn’t run Win 10 that well hence the reason back on Win 8.1. Not buying new hardware for some security BS Microsoft is selling again. My other two PC’s can upgrade to Win 11 but I think Win 10 is basically the same so why upgrade to a unknown as far as bugs and stability.

      • #2389236
        numike
        AskWoody Lounger

        speaking of security I am a simpleton and have Windows Defender and Kaspersky

        should I renew?

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      • #2389245
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I am a simpleton and have Windows Defender and Kaspersky

        Defender and Kaspersky don’t work together. Using Kaspersky Defender in disabled.
        I use Kaspersky for years.
        In the last year or two Defender has been improved much so you can switch to Defender leaving Kaspersky.
        Remember to totally remove Kaspersky using kavremover tool.

      • #2389284
        glnz
        AskWoody Plus

        Sorry but I don’t see this info in this thread:

        Does Win 11 come with Defender or not? 

        If not, (a) that would be pretty bad, and (b) what is MS saying about it?

        Thanks.

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