Which Processor is Better?

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[RetiredGeek]

Ok Y’all, here’s a theoretical question for all you HW geeks!

I currently have an Intel i7-7700 processor:
Architecture: Kaby Lake
Cores: 4
Threads: 8
Base Clock: 3.6 GHz
Max Turbo Clock: 4.2 GHz
TDP: 65W
Manufacturing Process: 14nm

Which processor, ignoring graphics cards, would give a greater performance upgrade for non-gaming, non-video editing, basic computing office apps and programming tasks.

AMD Ryzen 5 5500U:
Architecture: Zen 2
Cores: 6
Threads: 12
Base Clock: 2.1 GHz
Max Boost Clock: 4.0 GHz
TDP: 15W
Manufacturing Process: 7nm

AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS:
Architecture: Zen 3+
Cores: 4
Threads: 8
Base Clock: 3.0 GHz
Max Boost Clock: 3.7 GHz
TDP: 35W
Manufacturing Process: 14nm

What say you all? Yes, this is a test…

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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• This topic was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by RetiredGeek.

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My $$’s on the 5500U, with 50% more cores and 50% more thread capacity, despite the slower base and boost clock speeds.

It also runs cooler, using only 15 watts instead of 35 watts!

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After reviewing the correct specs for both processors, courtesy of @SB9K ‘s post below 😉 and my own modification of said url to bring up AMD’s own specs for the 5500U, I’ve gotta change my tune and go with the 7735HS due to its’ better overall specs, from cores to threads to speed of memory it uses to graphics specs for its built-in graphics capabilities as compared to the same specs for the 5500U (sorry RG, but I had to look at the built-in graphics specs for both).

I focused on the specs they both have in common as stated on their spec sheets and nothing else.

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The 7735HS has 8 cores and 16 threads, and higher clocks than the OP listed. I’m not sure where the inaccurate specs above came from.

From the horse’s mouth: AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS

For the use case, though, I’d lean towards the 5500U if it would save money.

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Ok, I’ll own up!
I had ChatGPT compare the two processors for me and I copied the specs from what it retrieved. I asked it to compare the two AMD chips to my current daily driver and here’s what it had to say:

Certainly! Let’s compare the specifications of the AMD Ryzen 5 5500U to the Intel Core i7-7700 and calculate a relative processing power score as a percentage.

AMD Ryzen 5 5500U:

Architecture: Zen 2
Cores: 6
Threads: 12
Base Clock: 2.1 GHz
Max Boost Clock: 4.0 GHz
TDP: 15W
Manufacturing Process: 7nm
*DDR4 to 3200 MHz
*LPDDR4 t0 4266 Mhz
*Graphics:
Radeon
7 Cores
Frequency 1800 MHz

Intel Core i7-7700:

Architecture: Kaby Lake
Cores: 4
Threads: 8
Base Clock: 3.6 GHz
Max Turbo Clock: 4.2 GHz
TDP: 65W
Manufacturing Process: 14nm

Now, let’s calculate the relative processing power score.

For the number of cores and threads, the Ryzen 5 5500U has 6 cores and 12 threads, while the Core i7-7700 has 4 cores and 8 threads. Considering the difference in core count, we can assign a score of 150% to the Ryzen 5 5500U in this aspect.

Moving on to clock speeds, the Core i7-7700 has a higher base clock of 3.6 GHz compared to the Ryzen 5 5500U’s base clock of 2.1 GHz. However, the Ryzen 5 5500U has a lower TDP of 15W, indicating it is designed for power efficiency and lower heat generation. To account for this, we can assign a score of around 75% to the Ryzen 5 5500U in this aspect.

Considering the architectural differences, the Ryzen 5 5500U belongs to the Zen 2 architecture, which is generally more advanced and efficient compared to Kaby Lake. We can assign an additional score of around 10% to the Ryzen 5 5500U in this aspect.

Adding up the scores from the core count, clock speeds, and architecture, we get approximately 150% + 75% + 10% = 235%.

Therefore, as a relative processing power score, the AMD Ryzen 5 5500U is approximately 235% as powerful as the Intel Core i7-7700.

Again, please note that this is a rough estimation based on the specifications, and real-world performance can vary depending on various factors.

Certainly! Let’s compare the specifications of the AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS to the Intel Core i7-7700 and calculate a relative processing power score as a percentage.

AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS:

Architecture: Zen 3+
Cores: 4
Threads: 8
Base Clock: 3.0 GHz
Max Boost Clock: 3.7 GHz
TDP: 35W
Manufacturing Process: 14nm
*DDR5 to 4800 Mhz
*LPDDR5 to 6400 MHz
*Graphics:
Radeon 680M
12 Cores
Frequency 2200 Mhz

Intel Core i7-7700:

Architecture: Kaby Lake
Cores: 4
Threads: 8
Base Clock: 3.6 GHz
Max Turbo Clock: 4.2 GHz
TDP: 65W
Manufacturing Process: 14nm

Now, let’s calculate the relative processing power score.

For the number of cores and threads, both processors have the same configuration of 4 cores and 8 threads. Therefore, we can assign an equal score of 100% to both.

Moving on to clock speeds, the Core i7-7700 has a slightly higher base clock of 3.6 GHz compared to the Ryzen 7 7735HS’s base clock of 3.0 GHz. However, the Ryzen 7 7735HS has a lower TDP of 35W, which suggests it is designed for more power efficiency. To account for the lower TDP, we can assign a score of around 95% to the Ryzen 7 7735HS in this aspect.

Considering the architectural differences, the Ryzen 7 7735HS belongs to the Zen architecture, which is generally considered more advanced and efficient compared to Kaby Lake. We can assign an additional score of around 10% to the Ryzen 7 7735HS in this aspect.

Adding up the scores from the core count, clock speeds, and architecture, we get approximately 100% + 95% + 10% = 205%.

Therefore, as a relative processing power score, the AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS is approximately 205% as powerful as the Intel Core i7-7700.

Again, please note that this is a rough estimation based on the specifications, and real-world performance can vary depending on various factors.
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*Specs added from AMD site not discovered by CHATGpt!

Here’s three links doing the compares from cpu.userbenchmark.com:
Intel i7-7700 vs Ryzen 5 5500u
Intel i7-7700 vs AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS
Ryzen 7 7735HS vs Ryzen 5 5500U

Just goes to show that you can’t trust what you read on the internet…Unless of course it’s on askWoody.com!

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

PowerShell & VBA Rule!
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RetiredGeek wrote:

…ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts…

At least they own up to not being 100% accurate all the time!

Now, I wonder how many kids are using ChatGPT to do their homework for them, and who probably haven’t read that little disclaimer???  😉

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Did you hear the one about the professor who accused an entire class of using ChatGPT to cheat? His evidence was that he asked ChatGPT if it wrote their papers, and it said, “yes.”

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Geenbench 5 for Ryzen 7 7735hs is ~1500/9000 (single thread/multithread).

For Ryzen 5 5500u, ~1100/5500.

For i7-7700, ~1100/4400.

Ryzen 5 is not going to be an appreciable increase in performance. You get about the same performance for less power usage, and these are laptop CPUs (vs. the reference chip, which is a desktop model), but that wasn’t what you asked about. Performance per watt is quite different than performance alone!

The 7735hs is a good bit quicker than the 7700, but it’s only about 205% when running loads that can make use of all of the cores. The multicore score of the Ryzen 7 is about 205% of the 7700. In tasks that run on a single thread, the difference is only about 36%.

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150% + 75% + 10% = 235% NOT!

150% is the first performance increase, so we can keep it.
75% is the second factor, but you multiply factors, not add. It’s a performance decrease so we need to use 100/75. 150 x 0.75 = 112.5
10% is a performance increase so it’s 100% + 10%. 112.5 x 1.1 = 123.75

150% + 75% + 10% = 123.75% increase.

cheers, Paul

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Hey Y’all,

Yeah, I concluded that it isn’t worth the $$$ to upgrade at this point.
My machine is really as fast as I need it to be and who knows what MS has in store regarding Win 1x and possible new hardware requirements. For now I’ll just sit on the sidelines and see what happens.

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

PowerShell & VBA Rule!
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