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     Brotha_G 3 months, 1 week ago.

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    • #337980 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Microsoft hasn’t acknowledged the bug yet, but it looks like the second cumulative update (the “optional, non-security update”) released on March 1, i
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    • #337993 Reply

      Terring
      AskWoody Lounger

      “Get Windows 10 for the maximum gaming experience”.

      They don’t even respect the gamers anymore.

      My English is far from perfect and I want to improve it. If you find any mistakes, particularly with my grammar, feel free to correct me.

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      • #338407 Reply

        doriel
        AskWoody Lounger

        Unless you play Candy Crush Saga and do microtransactions. I really do not like, what microsoft is doing now – semianual updates, windows as a service, cortana, collecting your data, two control panel, powershell syntax, building OS on the same c***** source code since NT (see internet options for example)…. [also edited], Gates is still second or third most rich person in the world, when will he have enough?

        This week I installed W1809 by clicking on “Check for updates”, went without problems – not mentioning percentage counter, which suddenly fell prom 54 to 48%, quite scary it was 🙂 and behold! New start menu again! Isn’t there enything else which is worth recreating? Their goal is to make money, not good OS.

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    • #338043 Reply

      magic
      AskWoody Lounger

      The Verge don’t deserve any respect. They’re still in denial after their “How to build a PC” video that was a trainwreck. Waited five months then tried to DMCA strike YouTubers who explained why it was bad content…

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      • #338471 Reply

        anonymous

        I remember their “How to build a PC video” is was comically bad and served as an example of how NOT to build a computer. It surprises me just how badly someone can mess up the process. It’s amazing their computer turned on at all.

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        • #338851 Reply

          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          I found that video today and it made my day 🙂 Firts installing PSU, so all cables are touchning MB 😀 Thermal paste all over the motherboard, RAM completely ignoring dual-channels, glass door and zero cable management 🙂 is this PSU really upside down? 😀

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          • #338936 Reply

            magic
            AskWoody Lounger

            My favourite was installing the PSU in a particular orientation because it grounded properly and prevented electric shocks. It also blocked the fan off. 🤦‍♂️

            A couple of the well known YT tech channels offered to collaborate on doing a quality replacement video with The Verge and they just buried their head in the sand in denial.

        • #338942 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Please stay on-topic: Win10 1809, Feb CU KB4482887 Preview consequences.

    • #338074 Reply

      GreatAndPowerfulTech
      AskWoody Lounger

      “Get Windows 10 for the maximum gaming experience”. They don’t even respect the gamers anymore.

      Since you asked: “any mistake” should be changed to “any mistakes” or “a mistake”.

      GreatAndPowerfulTech

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    • #338081 Reply

      anonymous

      887 has done multiple downloads on 3 PCs.   Delete the new ones and they simply reappear.

      Wagonman

    • #338086 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      https://www.ghacks.net has a post regarding KB4482887 :

      Enable Retpoline on Windows 10 1809 and Server right now

      Microsoft has tested Retpoline, a new mitigation method against Spectre variant 2 (by Google?), on Windows 10 Insider Builds for some time now. The company brought Retpoline to Windows 10 version 1809 by including it in the March 1 cumulative update KB4482887 for the version of Windows 10…

      “When all relevant kernel-mode binaries are compiled with retpoline, we’ve measured ~25% speedup in Office app launch times and up to 1.5-2x improved throughput in the Diskspd (storage) and NTttcp (networking) benchmarks on Broadwell CPUs in our lab.”

      Retpoline is not enabled by default on production devices even though it is included in the March 1 update. Microsoft plans to roll out the mitigation over the course of the coming months…

      https://www.ghacks.net/2019/03/06/enable-retpoline-on-windows-10-1809-and-server-right-now/

    • #338090 Reply

      anonymous

      One game I really like “Fallout: New Vegas” has had various mods broken because of Windows 10. Windows 10 just is not friendly towards older games like it used to be. But then again, I supposed this is to be expected. You’re trying to run a 10 year old piece of software on an OS it wasn’t made for, so it’s reasonable to expect problems.

      • #338097 Reply

        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        It’s also reasonable to expect a new OS to be backwards-compatible so that you don’t have to replace your entire software library every time a new version of the OS is forcibly patched – i.e. every 6 months in the case of Windows 10.

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        • #338120 Reply

          anonymous

          Only in your dreams…When Win. 10 came out I boxed up a couple hundred dollars of software and donated it to Good Will.

          • #338194 Reply

            Seff
            AskWoody Plus

            Not so much in my dreams as in my past experience. I’ve never had to replace software when upgrading to new versions of Windows up to and including Windows 7.

        • #338385 Reply

          Lugh
          AskWoody_MVP

          Has ‘Compatibility Mode’ stopped working in 1809?

          Lugh.
          ~
          Alienware Aurora R6; Win10 Home x64 1803; Office 365 x32
          i7-7700; GeForce GTX 1060; 16GB DDR4 2400; 1TB SSD, 256GB SSD, 4TB HD

    • #338152 Reply

      Zaphyrus
      AskWoody Lounger

      wait a minute  1903 is about to be released anytime and 1809 isn’t ready yet?!

      what is Microsoft thinking?

      Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
      • #338217 Reply

        anonymous

        1809 is starting to have the feel of being the current “Windows ME” of Windows 10. If both 1803 and 1903 are competent like both Windows 98 SE and Windows XP were, then 1809 will be truly be one of the occasional duds that Microsoft releases.

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        • #338394 Reply

          Zaphyrus
          AskWoody Lounger

          sadly  when october comes by we won’t have a choice but to install 1809

          Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
    • #338214 Reply

      Terring
      AskWoody Lounger

      The only game I have is Simcity 4 Deluxe Edition. I’ve downloaded and installed this update, tested the game (both vanilla and modded) and not a single drop in performance. So far so good. At least this old game has not been affected. If something changes, I’ll let you know.

      My English is far from perfect and I want to improve it. If you find any mistakes, particularly with my grammar, feel free to correct me.

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      • #338216 Reply

        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        Your English seems almost perfect to me! I would personally prefer not a single drop “in” performance to not a single drop “of” performance, and that’s for UK English rather than US English :)!

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        • #338239 Reply

          samak
          AskWoody Plus

          Yes, “drop in performance”; “drop in temperature” is another example.

          W7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit, Office 2010, Group B, non-techie

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    • #338232 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      Is the problem confined to games?

      Not clear who you’re asking, as KB4482887 is still “Hold for now” on the Master Patch List.

      (I don’t play games, so I can’t make a comparison; but I haven’t noticed any “crazy clobbering” of other apps over the last five days.)

      Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/"Sucker" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

      • #338378 Reply

        anonymous

        Hm, so is it supposed to be in or off…? Now you confused a poor anonymous reader… sorry 🙂

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        • #338501 Reply

          woody
          Da Boss

          You SHOULDN’T install any of the “optional non-security” Win10 second monthly cumulative updates. There’s no upside to it — no benefit — and lots of downside, as evidenced here.

          If you follow my instructions in the Computerworld articles, or look at Susan’s Patch Watch, you’ll see.

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    • #338304 Reply

      F A Kramer
      AskWoody Plus

      Train Simulator (Dovetail Games) is stuttering a bit more frequently than before with frame rates going from 56-60 fps to 14 fps for one or two seconds. But nothing more than that, and Microsoft’s own Jigsaw, etc., games are unaffected except for more ads for slot machine and hidden object games than months earlier.

    • #338386 Reply

      anonymous

      Hi all,

      Microsoft has just posted an acknowledgement of the bug. I will post here:

      Symptom:

      After installing KB4482887, users may notice graphics and mouse performance degradation with desktop gaming when playing certain games (eg: Destiny 2).

      Workaround:

      Microsoft is working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.
      As a short-term resolution, users can uninstall KB4482887 to regain performance.

      Not a very satisfying answer…although do see this as high-priority and expect Microsoft to rectify it Patch Tuesday next week.

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    • #338486 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      UPDATE: Microsoft finally acknowledged the problem on Wednesday:

      After installing KB4482887, users may notice graphics and mouse performance degradation with desktop gaming when playing certain games (eg: Destiny 2).

      Microsoft is working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.

      As a short-term resolution, users can uninstall KB4482887 to regain performance.

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    • #340106 Reply

      Brotha_G
      AskWoody Lounger

      Interesting! Because the KB 4482887 update helped my graphic experience dramatically. For instance, before the update, playing Metro Exodus was a tragic for me. I had constant lagging. Even to a point, it would be unplayable at all. My gaming rig is I7 CPU, 8 gig ram, 1080 founders card. I use my TCL 6 series 55 inch TV as my monitor. Gaming in 4K but currently 1440k for Metro Exodus. This update fixed all the issues I was having before. Especially in her mode in Battlefield V. Man I am so glad for this. I’m going to keep this update for now. But the gaming issues that people are experiencing is not what I’m experiencing on my rig. Which I find odd.

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