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    • #219577 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      All the chicken entrails point to a sign-off late last week, and an official drop on October 2. Thanks to @abbodi86, @WZorNet, @gborn Details coming i
      [See the full post at: Win10 1809 = version 17763 = hits RTM]

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    • #219591 Reply

      anonymous

      I don’t have a good feeling about this, it feel so rushed and too soon to have it
      I am sorry but I don’t think no one here trust microsoft anymore
      I will truly wait until Woody approves of 1803

    • #219599 Reply

      Wazhai
      AskWoody Lounger

      It will be interesting to see if it will be more stable and problem-free than previous feature updates, what with the lack of any major new features and the fact that this is an LTSC build.

    • #219600 Reply

      anonymous

      Of course, if this RTM is anything like the last five, we’ll have additional cumulative updates that roll out right around the time the final version becomes available for download.

      And this is precisely what annoys me. Has Microsoft forgotten everything about quality control? What goes through their minds when they release these half-baked products into the marketplace?

    • #219608 Reply

      anonymous

      article says “going back to the ESD files in Win81”

      Is that like Win9x9?

    • #219628 Reply

      Microfix
      AskWoody MVP

      Raise your hand if you’re old enough to remember when a new version of Windows was a genuine Really Big Deal. Before Windows 8, of course.

      For me that was undoubtedly ‘the good times’ it’s been a long wait (made longer) remember this.. Ad and Score

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      • #219907 Reply

        anonymous

        For a really appropriate inclusion you need to go back to Windows 95. Microsoft had whipped up a level of enthusiasm for the release similar to Apple. One of the inclusion was Edie Brickell’s track Good Times. The lyrics contained the future direction of Windows:

        I don’t want to say goodbye
        Don’t want to walk you to the door
        I spend a little time with you
        I want a little more

        Good times, bad times, give me some of that

        Good times, bad times, give me some of that

        Good times, bad times, give me some of that

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    • #219636 Reply

      cesmart4125
      AskWoody Lounger

      Actually, the Romans liked to use the entrails of the animals they had sacrificed.  When I’m planning investments, I like to visit the oracle at Delphi.

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    • #219746 Reply

      Mele20
      AskWoody Lounger

      I remember a lot of hoopla and long lines when XP was released and Dell told me I could not upgrade my 2 year old 98SE XPS Dimension but said I could upgrade to Windows 2000.  I waited (I actually liked 98SE and never had to reinstall it) until I purchased my next computer that came with XP Pro SP1a.  Remember what the “a” version was about?  (“Naughty” Microsoft and Sun won) LOL

      As for trusting Microsoft with the way “new” versions are now handled with Windows 10 this blows my mind:

      ‘Microsoft’s new approach to software updates is paying dividends

      Customer satisfaction with software for desktops and laptops rose 1.3 percent to 79. Specifically, Microsoft climbs 4 percent to 79 on the strength of a successful Windows 10 upgrade cycle that favors smaller, more regular updates to improve user experience and remain innovative over rollouts of large new versions of Windows.

      Microsoft’s user satisfaction now ranks even with the combined score of smaller software makers, including Adobe, Norton, Quicken and TurboTax.”

      https://www.theacsi.org/news-and-resources/press-releases/press-2018/press-release-household-appliances-and-electronics-2018

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      • #219818 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Lounger

        Microsoft’s new approach to software updates is paying dividends

        Customer satisfaction with software for desktops and laptops rose 1.3 percent to 79. Specifically, Microsoft climbs 4 percent to 79 on the strength of a successful Windows 10 upgrade cycle that favors smaller, more regular updates to improve user experience and remain innovative over rollouts of large new versions of Windows.

        Microsoft’s user satisfaction now ranks even with the combined score of smaller software makers, including Adobe, Norton, Quicken and TurboTax.”

        https://www.theacsi.org/news-and-resources/press-releases/press-2018/press-release-household-appliances-and-electronics-2018

        Additionally, from the full report:

        ” Microsoft’s new approach to updates appears to be working better for users. … For example, the April 2018 update includes a feature to minimize notifications and alerts, which Microsoft determined were distracting users at an average of 23 minutes per day. Thanks in part to improvements like these, …”

        (Based on interviews with 6,062 customers, chosen at random and contacted via email between September 6, 2017, and August 29, 2018 by American Customer Satisfaction Index.)

    • #219752 Reply

      Noel Carboni
      AskWoody MVP

      My hand’s up. I was around when the serious OSs Windows was copied after were designed. We honestly thought, back then, that things could only get better and better.

      Now I have the most powerful computer I have ever owned – beyond what I could even imagine 40 years ago – and I haven’t been able to think of a reason to want to put any OS from the last 5 years on it, except as a virtual machine for testing.

      Here’s hoping v1809 might be the system that finally hits a sweet spot. V1803 seemed about as close as they’ve come yet, but not quite…

      -Noel

    • #219766 Reply

      James Bond 007
      AskWoody Lounger

      Raise your hand if you’re old enough to remember when a new version of Windows was a genuine Really Big Deal. Before Windows 8, of course.

      Count me in. Have used Windows since Windows 3.1, although have largely skipped Windows Vista (but actually Windows Vista SP2 is not bad at all), and now skipping Windows 10 for as long as I can.

      Will see if the LTSC version of 1809 is something that can actually be used, if not, then I will continue to skip. However, even if 1809 is something good (which I don’t think it will be), that still does not mean that I will abandon Windows 7 and 8.1.

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

    • #219777 Reply

      radosuaf
      AskWoody Lounger

      After what has happened to Linus Torvalds we can only hope that Microsoft can deliver…

      MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 10 Pro 1803 64-bit + Windows 10 Mobile 1709 (Lumia 640 LTE)
      • #220198 Reply

        anonymous

        radosuaf wrote:

        After what has happened to Linus Torvalds we can only hope that Microsoft can deliver…

        Sorry, guess somehow I must have missed hearing about something big…
        what are you referencing? what has happened to Linus Torvalds?

        • #220202 Reply

          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          I can only think that @radosuaf was referring to this:
          https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/17/linus_torvalds_linux_apology_break/
          Warning: Expletives in the article

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          • #220356 Reply

            anonymous

            @microfix

            Thanks much for your reply. I read the article you linked, and found I was quite familiar with the content – both regarding Linus’ past (not-so-)professional behaviour as well as his recent personal revelation – and had already read his lkml post.

            And, yes, it does seem quite plausible that radosuaf was referring to this. But if so, I’m still quite puzzled by his post

            After what has happened to Linus Torvalds we can only hope that Microsoft can deliver…

            which seems to imply that Linus’ lkml post is somehow a negative thing? an unwanted development? possibly leading to the demise of the linux kernel itself???

            Really??? My read on this is quite the opposite.

            Linus Torvald’s aggressive/abrasive style is certainly not “new news”… pretty much the only person who truly couldn’t see a better approach was him. And now it sounds like maybe he’s finally ready to see it, and accept it, and admit it, and apologize for it – and, yes, try to adopt a better approach going forward. To me, that sounds like great news!!! Good for Linus. Good for the kernel developers. Good for the kernel.

    • #219783 Reply

      Carl D
      AskWoody Lounger

      I’ll have a try with 1809 when it is released. I’m feeling in an adventurous mood lately.

      At least I have a dual boot of Windows 7 and Windows 10 (7 installed first) so I can easily mess around with Windows 10 without (hopefully) affecting my W7 install.

      Might put 1809 on a separate SSD to start with though just to be on the safe side.

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    • #219785 Reply

      anonymous

      Me! Although age-wise I’m still a fairly young one at 34.

      I’ve been using Windows since 3.00a. I really believe that XP was the peak – I skipped Vista entirely at home, bar a few tests, and reluctantly adopted 7 which I really felt was lipstick on a pig – it wasn’t ‘that’ different from Vista. I also skipped 8 in its original form but I decided to make the effort with 8.1 and eventually grew to like it. And I still do.

      10 was a different story. I’ve jumped between 8.1 and 10 several times. LTSB gave me a stable base for a while but the update issues (particularly the forced driver updates which broke things more often than fixing them) pushed me back to 8.1 and I have no intention of budging again. If I get some time, I might look at trialling some Linux systems but I feel lost now, having been tied down to Microsoft for so long.

      • #219797 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Lemme tell ya, I’m impressed!

        Windows 3.0a landed in late 1990 — 28 years ago.

        • #219798 Reply

          anonymous

          Indeed Woody. I wasn’t always exposed to the latest and greatest I can assure you! But I was grateful of that in a way because it helped me to understand the later systems better.

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    • #219790 Reply

      Carl D
      AskWoody Lounger

      I’ll have a try with 1809 when it is released. I’m feeling in an adventurous mood lately. At least I have a dual boot of Windows 7 and Windows 10 (7 installed first) so I can easily mess around with Windows 10 without (hopefully) affecting my W7 install. Might put 1809 on a separate SSD to start with though just to be on the safe side.

      Needless to say – I will have complete Macrium Reflect backups standing by just in case.

    • #219813 Reply

      Microfix
      AskWoody MVP

      Martin over at Ghacks has found a way to download W10 v1809 via MS’s very own Media Creation Tool…

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      • #219860 Reply

        BobbyB
        AskWoody Lounger

        @microfix thx for posting that link and of course to Martin Brinkman and the Deskmodder Web site crew 🙂 that’s a nice little trick, by not using M$’s settings, not doing the in place upgrade, and creating the .ISO for use on another Machine you get an .ISO with an .ESD containing Win 10 Home, Pro and Edu and of course inserting an ei.cfg file in the .ISO (remade).
        Same as all the previous other versions. Now the burning question is, “is it up to snuff” to replace 1709? Time will tell not quite ready to commit to a VHD for testing yet. Just waiting to see if the WUMT trick fights off the upgrade from 1803 to 1809 in a VHD, then maybe i’ll “take a walk on the wild side” in December.

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      • #219972 Reply

        ch100
        AskWoody MVP

        The genuine ESD files from Microsoft are already available for those interested.
        Thanks @abbodi 🙂

    • #219829 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody Lounger

      recent articles from ZDNet and Softpedia news on Windows 10 v1809

      https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-october-2018-update-new-clues-17763-is-final-build-plus-launch-date/

      https://news.softpedia.com/news/is-windows-10-october-2018-update-ready-for-the-public-launch-522904.shtml

      https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-october-2018-update-rtm-ready-could-launch-on-october-2-522893.shtml

      well woody, I’ve taken the plunge into downloading & installing the Win10 v1809 version onto some of my test computers and I have not found any major problems with it; 1809 feels a little more stable than the 1803 version but that may vary depending on which computers the 1809 release is installed on.

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      • #219831 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I’m testing 1809 at this very minute, and my observation is the same as yours.

        Not that I’ll recommend it until there’s a thorough vetting, mind you.

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        • #219836 Reply

          b
          AskWoody Lounger

          1809 feels a little more stable than the 1803 version

          I’m testing 1809 at this very minute, and my observation is the same as yours.

          I’m curious how that manifests itself: In what way does 1803 exhibit instability which 1809 does not?

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        • #220412 Reply

          ch100
          AskWoody MVP

          Few issues here, not encountered in the previous editions.
          – IPv6 has to be ENABLED (not configured) for Store and Edge to be able to connect. Not sure if this is a bug or intended functionality. It should provide the expected configuration in the error message, but it doesn’t, just saying that it cannot connect.
          – Background Apps in Privacy need to be ON for the notifications to show. Otherwise there is only a number of potential notifications displayed, but not the actual text. Again, not sure if this is intended functionality or a bug, but other people had issues with the Background Apps setting in 1803 too.
          – Mouse cursor when busy does not comply with the None scheme. This may be related to the next one where more work may need to be done in relation to the themes.
          – There are reports about a Dark Theme not working, which I didn’t pay much attention as I don’t use that functionality.

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    • #219845 Reply

      anonymous

      Hi Woody,

      Forgive my ignorance, but does this mean if I check Windows Update today, 1809 will download/install?

      Thanks!!!

       

      • #219847 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        No. 1809 won’t be released officially until Oct 2. The latest version available through Windows Update currently is 1803. Depending on your settings (for Pro, not Home) you may still be able to get 1709 through WU.

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        • #219852 Reply

          anonymous

          Thanks PKCano. I am running a Dell desktop with Win 10 1803 home version.

          To be honest, 1803 has been the most stable version of Win 10 (I started with 1607 2 years ago). 1803 seems to have the least amount of issues.

          It’s just these twice per week cumulative updates that have been annoying. I don’t recall so many Windows updates on previous versions.  I hope Microsoft will ease up on this, but I highly doubt it.

          Thanks again!

    • #219871 Reply

      anonymous

      Recently decrypted 17763.1.180914-1434.rs5_release_clientbusiness_vol_x64fre_en-us_d29ef094928a77496cdf53d072b5023eddea7281.esd to 17763.1.180914-1434.RS5_RELEASE_CLIENTENTERPRISE_VOL_X64FRE_EN-US.iso which contains only Enterprise edition

      Installed it and it worked great out of the box, 1809 is so much stable compared to 1803.

      It’s definitely going to be an interesting fall!

    • #220211 Reply

      BobbyB
      AskWoody Lounger

      Well for those of you busy Alpha, Beta or Gamma testing the latest and greatest 1809 you may or may not pleased to know there’s a few updates already out for you. Nothing earth shattering just a collection of old Drivers and Flash updates you can find here: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=windows%2010%201809
      Not bad for a Release that has yet to officially hit the Streets.

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