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  • Win10 Start Menu Not Customizable

    Posted on Will Fastie Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Windows 10 version 1909 – November 2019 Update Win10 Start Menu Not Customizable

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      • #2251926 Reply
        Will Fastie
        AskWoody_MVP

        Suddenly (within the last 3 or 4 days sometime) it became impossible to customize the Windows 10 Start menu. Tiles cannot be moved or resized; options to do these things are missing from the right-click context menu.

        I’m running Win10 Pro 1909, build 18363.720. I had paused updates in accordance with Woody’s DEFCON 2, but I let them run to see if they would clear the problem and they did not.

        The options available differ depending on the tile. In most cases, however, this is what the context menu looks like now. Notice the absence of the resize feature.

        Image of Windows 10 Context Menu Problem

        Anyone else seeing this problem or, better yet, solved it?

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      • #2251953 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Strange. I’m not seeing that on my production machines….

        (The “More” menu on my Mail tile looks just like yours.)

        • This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by woody.
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      • #2260994 Reply
        Will Fastie
        AskWoody_MVP

        I finally found the answer to this courtesy of Keith Miller in the Microsoft Community forums. It was posted in January but until today I did not see it when searching.

        The bottom line is to remove this key from the registry or at least turn it off by setting its value to 0 (zero):

        HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\NoChangeStartMenu

        This can also be changed with the Group Policy Editor under Administrative Templates, Start Menu and Taskbar.

        There remains the very important question of how this got set in the first place. I didn’t use the Policy Editor to set the value and certainly did not modify the Registry (because I didn’t know about the existence of this key). Yet the Start Menu still got locked.

        Maybe someone can shed some light on that.

      • #2261007 Reply
        joep517
        AskWoody MVP

        Perhaps some third=party tweaking tool?

        If this is a work PC, then perhaps Group Policy got pushed from the IT folks.

        --Joe

      • #2261012 Reply
        Will Fastie
        AskWoody_MVP

        It’s a local machine. The only one pushing it is me (and Microsoft, of course).

        I try to avoid using third-party tweaking tools and can’t remember doing so recently. Good thought, though.

      • #2263945 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Am I the only person who finds this a bit off?

        step by step, inch by inch. . . .

        1. Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StartMenu\Policy\NoChangeStartMenu
        2. Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StartMenu\StartMenu\StartMenuChange\Policy\NoChangeStartMenu
        3. Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StartMenu\StartMenu\StartMenuChange\Policy\NoChangeStartMenu

        Isn’t once enough?

      • #2263982 Reply
        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        Isn’t once enough?

        The third entry with its nested ‘StartMenu\StartMenu’ text seems off. The first two entries should have been sufficient to cover both 32-bit and 64-bit variants of just ‘system-wide’, i.e. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.

        Where did you get the 3 entries from?

        • #2264112 Reply
          Rick Corbett
          AskWoody_MVP

          Isn’t once enough?

          I had a look at changing this using Local Group Policy Editor (LGPE).

          I ran a registry snapshot then, in the LGPE, enabled Prevent users from customizing their Start Screen and took another registry snapshot afterwards.

          A comparison of the 2 snapshots afterwords found only one entry had changed:

          [HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-3904176749-3377749892-2175385302-1001\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
          "NoChangeStartMenu"=dword:00000001

          Ignoring the Security Identifier (which is just for the profile of the logged-on user), this translates to a single change in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive.

          I wasn’t able to duplicate the ‘system-wide’ change previously noted (i.e. to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE hive)… so I’m a bit confused why the result of my experiment was so different.

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