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     Elly 2 months, 4 weeks ago.

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    • #547128 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      I finally got a super-clean copy of Win10 Pro 1903 installed. Local account. No remnants from earlier installs. Take a look at the new, improved Start
      [See the full post at: Win10 version 1903 shaping up to be a real productivity enhancer]

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    • #548074 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      Personally, I like to wait until the cannon fodder has run its course and the screams have died down.

      What happened?

      Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

      • #551028 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Test machine.

        Necessary evil, but I like to keep ’em clean….

    • #548934 Reply

      Charlie
      AskWoody Plus

      Meh indeed!  I’ve never laid hands on or tried Win 10 so please excuse me if this sounds weird, but how does one get to the things that really count?  Like Program Files for instance?  I see nothing much in that picture that interests me.  What I do see is a lot of nonsense.

      Again, please excuse me, I don’t make a habit of criticizing Win 10 but couldn’t help myself this time.

      Win 7 Home Premium, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Groups B & L

      • #549131 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Alphabetical scrolling programs menu on the left; browser, email and Office tiles on the right. (Unwanted tiles can be removed easily with a single action.)

        Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

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      • #549188 Reply

        joep517
        AskWoody MVP

        What things really count to you? How do you get to Program Files now? Why is getting to Program Files so important?

        There are a number of things you can do to customize the Start Menu.

        --Joe

        • #549824 Reply

          Charlie
          AskWoody Plus

          Programs I use most often are on the Desktop, other programs I use less often are on the Start Menu.  All other programs I can get to by clicking the Start Menu and then All Programs.  I do use the Classic Theme so things are more to my liking.

          I was just wondering about Program Files because what I saw in the picture was everything but.

          Win 7 Home Premium, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Groups B & L

          • #549950 Reply

            joep517
            AskWoody MVP

            You can certainly leave whatever you wish on the desktop as you do now. In the original post the left half of the picture is the All Programs list. The right half are pinned tiles or groups of tiles. All easily removed or changed.

            Program Files is easily accesible using File Explorer. A shortcut can be pinned where you need it.

            --Joe

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          • #588882 Reply

            SAS@HA
            AskWoody Lounger

            The Win 10 Start menu is great, but it receives a lot of criticism due to the junk tiles that Microsoft installs.

            I run a Decrapifier script during OS installation that removes all tiles from the Default User profile so they’re not created when new users log in. When I hand a laptop to a user, their first experience is a Start menu that has nothing but a list of apps and zero tiles. My own Start menu screenshot is attached.

            I always thought All Programs was a click too far. The new layout and options are much nicer. And the right-click Start menu was a welcome addition after Windows 7.

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            • #593945 Reply

              Charlie
              AskWoody Plus

              I see what you mean, that looks a lot better than Woody’s picture.  I still prefer Win XP’s Start Menu in Classic Windows mode.  That’s something that got changed in Vista and Win 7, I didn’t like it but learned to live with it.

              Win 7 Home Premium, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Groups B & L

    • #549100 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      1903 ISO media is now available to My Visual Studio susbscriptions

      incorporated with cumulative update KB4497464 (18362.30)

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    • #549235 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody_MVP

      woody, can you type winver.exe in the Run dialog box and check which 1903 build you got?

      @abbodi86: I just checked the MSDN RG Adguard site and MSDN/VS subscribers should be getting any of the following ISOs today:

      en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1903_x64_dvd_37200948.iso
      en_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_1903_x64_dvd_b980e68c.iso

      • #549644 Reply

        GreatAndPowerfulTech
        AskWoody Lounger

        Not Woody. But, left mouse click on the Start button and type winver and hit the Enter key. About Windows with the complete version information comes right up.

        There is no need to right mouse click, select run and then type winver.exe. You get the same information either way.

        GreatAndPowerfulTech

        • #551194 Reply

          woody
          Da Boss

          Or type about… it’s 18362.53, as you would expect.

          I fresh installed 1809 to a local account, went into the Release Preview Ring (using an Insider account), installed the update (using a local account), then did one round of cumulative updates. Build 18362.53.

           

    • #549364 Reply

      warrenrumak
      AskWoody Plus

      One piece of good news about 1903 is that more inbox apps can be uninstalled without resorting to Powershell malarkey.

      The full list is:

      • 3D Viewer
      • Calculator
      • Calendar
      • Groove Music
      • Mail
      • Movies & TV
      • Paint 3D
      • Snip & Sketch
      • Sticky Notes
      • Voice Recorder

      I also suggest turning off the “Live tile” option for the Microsoft Store icon.  Otherwise it will occasionally show ads for things in the Store.

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    • #551541 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Tero Alhonen just installed a clean copy of 1903 from MSDN. Here’s what he got:

      https://twitter.com/teroalhonen/status/1118972805167685632

      Not a single game on it.

      • #557331 Reply

        anonymous

        Microsoft default would be icons of a size that ‘shows off’  live tiles.  The presence of small icons indicates tiles have been modified.  Either its not a clean install or it was modified since installation.

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        • #560147 Reply

          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Office apps don’t have live tiles. There are no “small” tiles on that start screen; those are group tiles which expand when clicked:

          Based on your feedback, we’re introducing a simplified default Start layout for new devices, new user accounts, and clean installs. The new layout has been simplified into a sleek one column design with reduced top-level tiles.
          What’s new for Windows 10 Insider Preview Builds (19H1)

          Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

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    • #557163 Reply

      John
      AskWoody Lounger

      Windows 10 is  like a car body that only ever get’s a refresh never a complete new styling. Were stuck with Windows 10 because there apparently is no Windows 11. Its like groundhog days with a twist every six months. Throw in a few quirks and that’s what we get. Can’t get excited about that.

      • #560300 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Free refreshments and no having to buy a new model every three years.

        Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

    • #581075 Reply

      anonymous

      Does it still upload your entire life tho?

    • #582158 Reply

      anonymous

      This version has no real productivity enhance.It breaks many of our core programs that we used. We called up an MS agent who told us to avoid this version since core programs that our business use it does not work on it. Our business is now stock piling windows 7 computers and licenses and will be removing Windows 10 computers.

    • #597302 Reply

      Rick Corbett
      AskWoody_MVP

      One piece of good news about 1903 is that more inbox apps can be uninstalled without resorting to Powershell malarkey. The full list is:

      • 3D Viewer
      • Calculator
      • Calendar
      • Groove Music
      • Mail
      • Movies & TV
      • Paint 3D
      • Snip & Sketch
      • Sticky Notes
      • Voice Recorder

      I also suggest turning off the “Live tile” option for the Microsoft Store icon. Otherwise it will occasionally show ads for things in the Store.

      Unfortunately ‘PowerShell malarkey’ is what some people *have* to use to clear the crud. (Anyone actually used the 3D viewer? If yes, more than once?)

      Unfortunately, most Win 10 users *aren’t* here on ‘AskWoody’ so have little or no idea how to clear the crud nor how to stop the incessant whittling down of data caps due to regular data downloads/uploads (albeit miniscule for tile updates).

      It’s an eye-opener using something like Nir Sofer’s CurrPorts (with logging) and just watching how many external connections (i.e. over the internet) a standard Windows 10 PC makes – say over 7 days – without the user even *once* opening a program following the Windows 10 installation.

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      • #599200 Reply

        anonymous

        I use Windows Firewall control to review Outbound traffic. The number of background tasks that request access is mind-boggling.

        If you think Microsoft is bad for spying, try a Dell laptop. Aside from numerous Dell services and processes wanting access for unexplained reasons, there’s also a Dell Telemetry service that keeps asking.

        I grew up in an age when nobody poked their noses into other people’s business. Now the whole world seems to be looking over everybody else’s shoulder as they do anything.

        Just interrupted by Microsoft System settings wanting web access (why) and Microsoft speech runtime… Hang on, I don’t have speech recognition switched on!  Back to research! Just as well I  am retired, have an IT background and  have the time to do the research.

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    • #882957 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      First upgrade-blocker for 1903 🙂
      https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-blocked-because-of-drive-reassignment

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      • #933142 Reply

        Elly
        AskWoody MVP

        This would not be at all good on computers which have been using an external USB device in order to get W10 updated, due to their small, but supposedly adequate for W10 hard drive.

        Win 7 Home, 64 bit, Group B

    • #914141 Reply

      joep517
      AskWoody MVP

      FWIW, here’s two articles about 19H1 (the May update).

      The first is Microsoft’s list of what is new – https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/at-home/whats-new-wip-at-home-19h1#introducing-windows-sandbox-build-18305.

      The second is a list of the top 15 features as voted by Windows Insiders – https://insider.windows.com/en-us/community-news/windows-insiders-vote-for-their-favorite-features-19h1.

      --Joe

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      • #927349 Reply

        SteveTree
        AskWoody Lounger

        The Windows insider preference list says a lot!

        Group A (but Telemetry disabled Tasks and Registry)
        Win 7 64 Pro desktop
        Win 10 32 Home portable

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