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    • #229295 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Remember how we’ve been having problems with KB 4462923, the October Win7 Monthly Rollup? Looks like there was a reason why Microsoft buried it so dee
      [See the full post at: Win7 Monthly Rollup, KB 4462923, updated and rolled out again]

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    • #229304 Reply

      fernlady
      AskWoody Lounger

      I just restored KB 4462923 and it came in as important BUT unchecked, put it back in the hidden area. Forgot to say it still has October 9, 2018 date.

      Windows 7 Home Premium x64 AMD Group A Realtek PCLe GBE Family Controller

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    • #229310 Reply

      anonymous

      Now aren’t you glad you haven’t yet installed the October updates?

      Yep. I also note the sudden change in date and status has not wiggled the MS-DEFCON rating yet. I’m willing to wait. Thanks for all you folks do.

    • #229312 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Plus

      Current catalog entry:

      KB4462923 last updated 11/1/2018:
      https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=4462923

      KB3177467 last updated 10/8/2018:
      https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=3177467

      ————–

      Previous catalog entry:

      KB4462923 last updated 10/15/2018

      KB3177467 last updated 10/8/2018

      Group G{ot backup} Win7Pro · x64 · SP1 · i3-3220 · TestBeta
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    • #229313 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Plus

      KB3177467-v1 installed September 2016.

      October Patch Tuesday (October 9, 2018) Beta Test steps:

      • Installed Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 (KB890830)
      • Installed Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 for x64 (KB4459922)
      • Installed October Security Monthly Quality Rollup Windows7 x64 (KB4462923)
      • Rebooted, then checked for updates
      • KB3177467-v2 showed as a stand-alone update and installed without error.

      What has been updated in the last two versions of KB4462923?

      Group G{ot backup} Win7Pro · x64 · SP1 · i3-3220 · TestBeta
      • #229338 Reply

        anonymous

        Absolutely nothing.

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    • #229327 Reply

      anonymous

      KB3177467  v1  installed September 2016 and v2 about a week ago. KB4462923 is now showing up as checked and available.

    • #229358 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      I guess they paused KB4462923 for around 3 weeks just to make a room for users to install KB3177467-v2

      now it’s back as-is, no real metadata change or explicit dependency on SSU

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    • #229375 Reply

      anonymous

      I installed the October MSRT, but no KB3177467 (ver 2) showed.

      So I further installed the 5 MS Office 2010 updates and KB3177467 immediately showed up and was checked, however, then the WUpdate Optional category is totally missing.  PK made mention in one of the many posts that installing KB3177467 would/should bring the Optional category back. Is this true?

      I am holding at the Checked KB3177467 stage pending further instructions, or should I proceed to install it and await further instructions from here?

      OP here,

      So this morning I check for updates (I have KB3177467 V1 installed from 2016), the previously Checked KB3177467 V2 is gone, the Optional Update category (with KB’s) is back, and KB4462923 is showing and checked!

      From what I am reading here, I should install KB4462923 and afterwards KB3177467 V2 will reappear checked which should then also be installed – correct?

      • #229378 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        That’s the sequence I found successful. The Windows Update “important updates” queue has to be empty before KB3177467 v2 will show up. It’s still exclusive and has to be installed by itself.

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        • #229381 Reply

          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          It will be interesting to know if KB3177467-v1 is missing, KB4462923 fails as it did earlier.

          Group G{ot backup} Win7Pro · x64 · SP1 · i3-3220 · TestBeta
          • #229382 Reply

            PKCano
            Da Boss

            now it’s back as-is, no real metadata change or explicit dependency on SSU

            Perhaps the dependency has been removed and v2 will just install after the Rollup without error.

            If you are doing Group B, though, I would be sure it’s there first, just to be on the safe side.

            • #229599 Reply

              abbodi86
              AskWoody_MVP

              SSU KB3177467 can be installed anytime
              the issue is to get it to install before Monthly Rollup

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        • #229459 Reply

          anonymous

          OP here,

          Done and Done – no problems to report so far.

          I rebooted after the KB3177467 install even though system didnt request it.

        • #229719 Reply

          walker
          AskWoody Lounger

          @pkcano:   I just now located this topic, and noted that KB3177467 appears to be an issue??  I have never seen anything relating to this “Stack” update, so I will try to search to see if it perhaps was installed quite some time ago.   Difficult when one has vision problems, however your outstanding advice has helped me more than I can ever express.  Thank you once again.

    • #229866 Reply

      rontpxz81
      AskWoody Lounger

      So is it safe to install KB4462923 on Windows 7?  In WU it went from unchecked to checked but still shows the October 9, 2018 date.

      I have KB3177467 v.1 already installed from 3/10 2017.

      • #229873 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Please consult the MS-DEFCON 4 thread (posted Nov 2) on the main blog before you proceed. There is a lot of information there.

        • #321629 Reply

          walker
          AskWoody Lounger

          @pkcano:  I have searched and searched for the information you sent to me, and have not been able to locate it.   I am attempting to get back to “where I should be” since I had a hiatus which put me into “limbo”.

          In the interim I have checked for updates and only show TWO “Important” and they are as follows:  KB4481480 (2019-01) Security & Quality Rollup for .NET

          KB4480970  (2019-01)  Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Win7x64

          They are both checked.

          Only 2 Optionals, none checked.

          Is it safe to install the two Important updates which I listed?  That is all that I have pending at the present time.

          I sincerely apologize for being unable to locate my references which you provided for me, PKC.  If I can only get back to “where I belong” at this point in time it would be wonderful.   Your patience, outstanding expertise, and knowledge are, as always, most sincerely appreciated,not only myself, but all of us.   Thank you once again.   🙂

          • #321636 Reply

            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Yes, you are good to install the two updates you mentioned.
            KB4481480 (2019-01) Security & Quality Rollup for .NET

            KB4480970  (2019-01)  Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Win7x64

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            • #322112 Reply

              walker

              @pkcano:  Thank you so much for the prompt reply – – – – what a relief that is for me.  There should be “special AWARDS” for all of the wonderful assistance you provide to the users of AskWoody!  I wish it could be much more than “thank you”, however I feel very strongly about the absolutely wonderful help you provide to us all.    Thank you once again, for being “One in a Million”!   

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    • #230932 Reply

      dportenlanger
      AskWoody Lounger

      I have three freshly installed Windows 7 machines.  I cannot get any of the monthly rollups on any of the three systems to install.  They get to 15% and then roll back.

      They have KB3177467 v2 installed.  If I try to get it from the Microsoft Update catalog and install it, it says it already exists.

      Existing machines have the rollups applied with no issues.

      What am I doing wrong on the three fresh machines?  I appreciate any help.

      • #231055 Reply

        anonymous

        @dportenlanger , I think you are running into an old problem most of us have forgotten. Or at least I do not trust myself to walk through it. Fortunately, Canadian Tech himself has posted just today a reference to his work at Microsoft Answers. I believe it has the solution you seek. The key is two specific updates. But I’ll leave CT to explain.

        See his post here on AskWoody:

        Best way to transfer an old Win7 PC to a new Win10 VM?

        Which also contains his link to the original Answers Forum installation guide.

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        • #232449 Reply

          anonymous

          Interestingly, I installed Windows 8.1/Classic Shell on one of the failing machines and let it do all the updates.  No issues were found.  It appears Windows 7 is dead before 1/20.

          • #232462 Reply

            anonymous

            That is another great solution. One with a more distant lifespan horizon. Worthy of further review in Woody’s blogpost, coincidentaly presented on November 7th.

            There is also a lightly used section for Win8.1 here on AskWoody:

            Windows 8.1


            I expect that to start getting more traffic in the future.

    • #319652 Reply

      Philomene123
      AskWoody Plus

      Hi there! Hmm. I am a bit confused, on my w7 machine, KB3177467 is offered again, as an important update. It was apparently installed in october, 2016. Do I have to install it again? Don’t want to brick this old laptop…. For now, it works pretty good! thanks for your advices!

      • #319656 Reply

        Microfix
        Da Boss

        and here lies the solution to your problem: #229402

        ********** Win7 x64/x86 | Win8.1 x64 | Linux Hybrids x64 **********

    • #319873 Reply

      Philomene123
      AskWoody Plus

      Hmm. I am still confused!  I have v1 installed. I have no roll up pending. So is it OK to hide the v2? Thanks!

      • #319874 Reply

        Elly
        AskWoody MVP

        Hello @Philomene123

        Post #229487 might have the clearer answer:

        If you have either v1 or v2 installed already, you should not have a problem with the Rollup or the SO. BUT, you will also need to install KB3177467 v2, it just need not be first if you have v1 already installed.

        KB3177467 is a servicing stack update, and as such would show up when all other important updates are installed or hidden. You shouldn’t hide it. Install it by itself. Reboot. Microsoft says v2 reclassifies the update as security with a severity rating of critical. Servicing stack updates do not introduce telemetry, and should be installed.

        Per Microsoft, there is a possible issue when rebooting: “During this restart, you may find yourself stuck on “Stage 2 of 2” or “Stage 3 of 3″. If you encounter this issue, press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to continue to log on. This should occur only one time and does not prevent updates from installing successfully.”

        Win 7 Home, 64 bit, Group B

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    • #320479 Reply

      Philomene123
      AskWoody Plus

      OK. Thanks, it’s now clear!  will install it!

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