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      • #39407 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        This from BillC: Here is a link in the Intel communities for the June rollup KB3161608 breaking Intel Bluetooth.  It is confirmed by Intel.  The fix i
        [See the full post at: Win7 scan speedup patch KB 3161608 breaks Intel Bluetooth]

      • #39408 Reply
        Megan Ryan
        Guest

        How about those without intel bluetooth on their laptops? Is it safe for us to keep the update on our computer if we don’t got Intel Bluetooth on em?

      • #39409 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Yep. I haven’t heard of any other problems.

      • #39410 Reply
        Megan Ryan
        Guest

        Good :3 That’s all I wanted to know-I’ll download the update perhaps tonight before bed or saturday and then see about scanning for updates sunday or wednesday-I can also checked the 24th too, but not 26th or 27th-I don’t wanna be tuckered out when doing a night scan and updates-That’ss my birthday week-golden birthday on the 28th turning 28. 🙂

        But I’ll keep my eyes peeled.

      • #39411 Reply
        Thom R
        Guest

        Happy birthday, depressing to me, you’re younger than my oldest.

      • #39412 Reply
        gaugino
        Guest

        KB3168965 (security update for Windows kernel-mode drivers) installed manually prior to searching for updates indeed solves the problem of slow Win 7 WU (see comment 6 in https://communities.intel.com/thread/104414). In my case it took several minutes to find the rest of July updates (I have failed to find updates using WU before installing KB3168965 – restarted the computer after more than one hour of searching).
        So, it seems that KB3168965 can be used instead of KB3161608.

      • #39413 Reply
        gaugino
        Guest

        Clarification: do not have KB3161608 installed.

      • #39414 Reply
        MikeFromMarkham
        AskWoody Plus

        28? I have socks older than that! And probably some software, too.

      • #39415 Reply
        Megan Ryan
        Guest

        Awww~Thanks Thom I appreciate the happy early birthday greeting. 🙂

        And I am? How old is your oldest?

      • #39416 Reply
        max
        Guest

        “So, it seems that KB3168965 can be used instead of KB3161608.”

        Until MS releases a new update for win32k.sys.

        MS just needs to release the WU-client-update as its own update, and not part of the roll-up.
        But hey, that would be user-friendly, can’t do.

      • #39417 Reply
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        “gaugino says:
        July 13, 2016 at 8:02 pm

        KB3168965 (security update for Windows kernel-mode drivers) installed manually prior to searching for updates indeed solves the problem of slow Win 7 WU”

        Same here, null problemo.

        http://wu.krelay.de/en/
        JF

      • #39418 Reply
        gaugino
        Guest

        “Until MS releases a new update for win32k.sys.”

        You are right. Unfortunately, KB3168965 is just a temporary solution…

        “MS just needs to release the WU-client-update as its own update, and not part of the roll-up.”

        It would be nice. Don’t want to install unclear cumulative updates. But as you said “that would be user-friendly, can’t do.”…

      • #39419 Reply
        gaugino
        Guest

        Tnanks, missed that link.

      • #39420 Reply
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        Woody;

        before the “new” askwoody (https etc) when I posted it would immediately show up on my screen as ‘awaiting moderation’.

        Now it seems to vanish till you release it. Is that the new system?

        JF

      • #39421 Reply
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        Woody added:

        It just showed up as it used to. Don’t know why.

        Maybe because I checked “notify me of comments by email”?????

        JF

      • #39422 Reply
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        Woody;

        Your new comment notification system by email is super!

        Fast, clear, comprehensive. Saves lots of time.

        Many thanks,

        JF

      • #39423 Reply
        William Kats
        Guest

        Also had wireless adapter problems, but don’t know which update, if any, caused the issue. Solved after re-loading the adapter. Did not remove the update and have had no problems.

      • #39424 Reply
        Bob?(Maybe?err…ok)
        Guest

        It only knows who you are to show you your own message(before moderation) if you entered an email address.

      • #39425 Reply
        Bill C.
        AskWoody Plus

        That was my first impulse. Unfortunately with my issue I could not install, remove, or update the Intel Bluetooth driver software as the installer kept crashing with an “unknown error”. Only removing KB3161608 allowed anything to happen. I did see entries in a Google search saying the same thing, also with Thinkpads.

        However since the Intel Bluetooth started to work again, I did not do any removing, updating or reinstall of the Intel software. I figured I would quit while I was ahead.

      • #39426 Reply
        Bob?(Maybe?err…ok)
        Guest

        Best guess is that it is sub-update KB3163644.

        Some of Intel’s older bluetooth services had issues with SEHOP and ASLR. Chances are this update poked a related setting. Now, if only we could uninstall specific updates to test, oh wait someone superglued them all together.

        On the other hand… Intel, compile your software with a modern compiler that is fully compatible with modern exploit mitigation.

      • #39427 Reply
        Bob?(Maybe?err…ok)
        Guest

        Maybe auto install drivers that microsoft guesses are “better” than what you have now is enabled.

        (“better” can mean “doesn’t work” in many cases, especially when replacing customer OEM drivers with microsoft’s suggestions)

      • #39428 Reply
        Megan Ryan
        Guest

        Sooooooo can SOMEBODY please clarify and simplify with me WHAT UPDATE TO install? DO I gotta install yet now I’m very VERY confused. Which one should I yet now I’m very VERY confused. Which one should I install? 3161608 or KB 3168965? Or do I install both-3161608 first and then 3168965 after? OR Install the first one and see how it works OR install the other. I’m very confused!

        PLEASE IT’S MAKING MY head hurt! WHICH KB SHOULD I INSTALL to speed up windows update!

      • #39429 Reply
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        Thanks for the info Bob JF

      • #39430 Reply
        Joe Friday
        Guest

        It works. JF

      • #39431 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        There’s no definitive answer to your question, but there appear to be fewer side-effects using the method in http://wu.krelay.de/en/

      • #39432 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        @woody:

        Intel has issued updated Bluetooth drivers & software (v19.00.1629) on 8/1/2016 that is recently compatible with the KB3161608 & KB3172605 update rollups for Win7 SP1:
        https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26191

        Follow the instructions very carefully on that site in installing the new bluetooth drivers as well as re-installing either KB3161608 or KB3172605.

      • #39433 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Thanks!

      • #39434 Reply
        Shaun Calton
        Guest

        Woody,

        It looks like Intel released some updated drivers for some of their Wireless/Bluetooth adapters earlier this month.

        https://communities.intel.com/thread/104851

        The process states that if either the June or July Cumulative updates are installed on Windows 7, that they’ll need to be removed along with the previous adapter drivers before the new driver is to be installed.

        Any Word on if the August Update KB3179573 breaks Bluetooth all over again?

      • #39435 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        I haven’t heard.

        Man, this is a mess….

      • #39436 Reply
        Shaun Calton
        Guest

        Thank you for the quick replay and please keep us in the loop if you get anymore info!

        On one hand, I like keeping my systems as patched up as possible but I’ve had to create an additional WSUS PC Groups to avoid deploying these Roll-ups to any of my users that actually use Bluetooth devices. I can’t wait until the monthly Roll-ups are the only updates available..

        A mess indeed!

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