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      • #2307133
        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        Since July (or perhaps even earlier), Windows update has been warning/teasing me that the May Update is on the way, and will be downloaded when it’s ready for my system.

        Well … I suspect the reason I have yet to be offered the update is some combination of these blocks:

        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004#377msgdesc

        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004#417msgdesc

        Both these blocks show up in the notes for both 2004 and 20H2. Looking at threads such as this > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/updating-to-windows-10-version-2004conexant/c98ac1c5-0ddb-4964-b50d-9b3720ac7122 … it’s pretty clear I am not alone, but there is no word on a resolution.

        As I use the more advanced audio features the Dell has provided (INS 7353), I would rather not hack the block by installing generic drivers etc., but I am getting concerned I could run into a situation where my system will not be upgraded, ever … which does carry security and EOL issues. I have considered trying to force the update via the online update tool/media creation tool … but also not necessarily looking to tempt fate with a BSOD.

        Does anyone here have insights as to why this block has not been resolved since May? Any thoughts on how one might proceed?

        In device manager, the device is listed as ‘Conexant SmartAudio HD.’ Via device manager, Windows says I have the best drivers for my system installed. No new audio drivers are available from Dell, and talking with their support folks was sadly/predictable, not productive.

        Thanks for any insights/suggestions!

      • #2308059
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        It still says to hang tight as the vendor is coming up with a fix.  Let me ask around.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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        • #2308078
          howardagoldberg
          AskWoody Plus

          Susan … thank you! I have a Dell XPS system from 2011 that is fully updated, so after almost seven months, I am beginning to get a bit impatient and considering forcing the upgrade. But, if a proper fix is actually in the works, I will exert some additional patience :-).

          The system in question with the Conexant driver is a Dell Inspiron 7353 2-in-1. I’m on 1909.

           

      • #2308178
        CraigS26
        AskWoody Plus

        Howard’s 2nd link (MS Block announcement) shows [The affected driver will be named Conexant HDAudio Driver under Sound, video and game controllers in Device Manager and have versions 8.65.47.53, 8.65.56.51, or 8.66.0.0 through 8.66.89.00 for chdrt64.sys or chdrt32.sys.]……

        My Ver does Not match their Numbering Scheme in that I have 3 #s in the 3rd group (ie) 8.65.282.54 Vs their 2 #s 8.65.47.53. Wondering if the MS “block” app is loosely blocking Any HD Audio VerSince my actual Ver # is NOT Named it’s either something else blocking us, the Announcement Left Out one # space in Affected Ver’s, or their Block App is blocking ALL Conexant Ver’s contrary to the Announcement data.

        W10 Pro 21H1 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / HP Envy Desktop-Ethernet/ 12 GB / 256G SSD + 1 TB HDD / i5-8400 CoffeeLake-S / GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU=0

      • #2316368
        anonymous
        Guest

        HP all in one 64 bit touch screen 2020/12/2 still no sound

      • #2316625
        anonymous
        Guest

        I have a Spectre laptop of 2017 and cant update. Connexant, Synaptics and laptop makers are unacceptable for not supporting their products… but Microsoft caused this issue. They are working on a fix from May and it is December. Seriously.. if you cant fix it maybe find another job at McDonalds and leave your positions to other more skillful programmers that MS could hire.

      • #2316636
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Current advice is not to upgrade to 2004 or 20H2.

        On Hiatus {with backup and coffee}
        offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
        offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
        online▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.804 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox86.0 WindowsDefender TRV=20H2 WuMgr
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      • #2316644
        anonymous
        Guest

        Version control has been a driver problem for years, Windows 10 is now highlighting the issue. SNAFU :)/

        • #2316668
          Zig
          AskWoody Plus

          No, this is SUSFU (Situation Unchanged, Still…).

          Zig

      • #2318574
        anonymous
        Guest

        I have a Dell 7359 with same issue. Now 2H20 is also blocked. I have the latest Conexant driver from dell, 8.65.135.0 which would seem to be outside the blocked range, but MS is blocking.

      • #2318624
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I have a Spectre laptop of 2017 and cant update. Connexant, Synaptics and laptop makers are unacceptable for not supporting their products… but Microsoft caused this issue. They are working on a fix from May and it is December. Seriously.. if you cant fix it maybe find another job at McDonalds and leave your positions to other more skillful programmers that MS could hire.

        If you insist on updating to 2004/20H2 Microsoft has a workaround by unblocking any blocks.

        Microsoft hasn’t caused the incompatibly issues. The hardware OEMs has enough beta testing time to test and update drivers. They didn’t because they don’t want to invest time and money.

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by Alex5723.
        • #2337470
          anonymous
          Guest

          What?  Microsoft hasn’t caused the incompatibly issues?  Well, what changed?  The drivers certainly did not.  So some gremlin inside Microsoft’s Windows development made a subtle change to some software interface because it would not affect anyone and it makes Windows “better” in some arcane and abstract way.  That is the first and most benign possibility.

          The second possibility is that the change was intentional, the idea being to render obsolete yet another set of perfectly good hardware so Microsoft OEM’s and ODM’s can sell you another, adding to the piles of decent hardware making it way, best case, to an e-cycler.

          These sorts of devices rendered “obsolete” by changes to Windows have gone on for many, many years.

          By contrast, Linux driver interfaces and APIs are more stable and unchanging, though not without devices becoming inoperative when confronted with a new distro.

      • #2318674
        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        I have a Spectre laptop of 2017 and cant update. Connexant, Synaptics and laptop makers are unacceptable for not supporting their products… but Microsoft caused this issue. They are working on a fix from May and it is December. Seriously.. if you cant fix it maybe find another job at McDonalds and leave your positions to other more skillful programmers that MS could hire.

        If you insist on updating to 2004/20H2 Microsoft has a workaround by unblocking any blocks.

        Microsoft hasn’t caused the incompatibly issues. The hardware OEMs has enough beta testing time to test and update drivers. They didn’t because they don’t want to invest time and money.

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by Alex5723.

        Respectfully, I disagree that Microsoft is ‘innocent’ in this issue.

        My Conexant drivers from Dell are dated March 2019. Not brand-spanking new, but these are not ancient drivers from 10 years ago. I have had my Inspirion notebook for about four years, and never encountered a block before – much less for something as common as a sound driver from a mainstream provider used on 100s of thousands (if not more) systems.

        I have tracked down that the issue on my system is not the entire driver package, but one .dll with a revision number in the range listed for the ISST audio issues block; which is fascinating, since I don’t have ISST, I have ‘Conexant SmartAudio HD,’ which is not even stated specifically as one of the plain-English ‘IDs’ being blocked.

        Based on my hardware ID for this card, these are the drivers MS has to push out to my system (beyond Dell’s driver page for my system):

        https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=HDAUDIO%5CFUNC_01%26VEN_14F1%26DEV_50F2%26SUBSYS_102806FE

        If you look, you can see drivers were updated in 2016, and then three years later in 2019. That’s not so long ago, and there is really no excuse why MS would have changed something to muck with drivers that are less than 2 years old – or at the very least, to fix the installer so the block can be removed.

        Believe me, Dell has to answer for this also as the direct vendor – but most of the blame lays at MS’s door.

      • #2318738
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        “Believe me, Dell has to answer for this also as the direct vendor – but most of the blame lays at MS’s door.”

        you should bring this to Dell’s attention and post the Conexant audio driver compatibility problems with 2004/20H2 in the Dell community support forums, howardagoldberg

        but I also agree – Microsoft is taking so long with the 2004/20H2 upgrade block with the outdated Conexant drivers and has not lifted the restrictions for that.

        guess that’s why I run Win10 LTSC 2019 instead of the normal Win10 OS on my family’s Dell Inspiron 620 desktop PC which does use Conexant CX20641 audio hardware (the driver version I have there is 8.50.14.50 which is several years old)

        edit – btw, I found this topic in the Dell forums

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by EP.
        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by EP.
      • #2318786
        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        “Believe me, Dell has to answer for this also as the direct vendor – but most of the blame lays at MS’s door.”

        you should bring this to Dell’s attention and post the Conexant audio driver compatibility problems with 2004/20H2 in the Dell community support forums, howardagoldberg

        but I also agree – Microsoft is taking so long with the 2004/20H2 upgrade block with the outdated Conexant drivers and has not lifted the restrictions for that.

        guess that’s why I run Win10 LTSC 2019 instead of the normal Win10 OS on my family’s Dell Inspiron 620 desktop PC which does use Conexant CX20641 audio hardware (the driver version I have there is 8.50.14.50 which is several years old)

        edit – btw, I found this topic in the Dell forums

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by EP.
        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by EP.

        I have reported this to Dell on several occasions. I actually got through directly at one point to the driver engineering team. Their response was basically, ‘it says on the MS 2004/20H2 status page that MS is working on a resolution, so it’s not our problem.’

        My guess is, an updated driver may show up on the drivers page for mine (and other) systems at some point … as new BIOS, WiFi, etc. updates are still posted. But I am not holding my breath, or wasting any more time trying to convince them they need to act on this, lol.

      • #2318788
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Respectfully, I disagree that Microsoft is ‘innocent’ in this issue.

        Microsoft can change what ever they want when they want. Microsoft is not obliged to any hardware OEM, software devs, who have ample of time testing their hardware/software running previews/insider/beta.. versions of Windows.

        Conexant should have found out months ago that there are compatibility issues with 2004/20H2.

        Dell isn’t responsible for Conexant drivers or any other driver.
        Dell just assemble of-the-shelf parts into a PC.

      • #2318808
        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        Respectfully, I disagree that Microsoft is ‘innocent’ in this issue.

        Microsoft can change what ever they want when they want. Microsoft is not obliged to any hardware OEM, software devs, who have ample of time testing their hardware/software running previews/insider/beta.. versions of Windows.

        Conexant should have found out months ago that there are compatibility issues with 2004/20H2.

        Dell isn’t responsible for Conexant drivers or any other driver.
        Dell just assemble of-the-shelf parts into a PC.

        Um, no.

        First, MS markets ‘Windows as a service’ and touts the fact that updates will be provided for the life of your system (assuming it was W10 compatible from the get-go).

        Second, while Conexant provided drivers to Dell … Dell (and I presume other vendors) customize the drivers to work with such enhancements as ‘Wave Audio,’ etc. So, Dell *is* absolutely responsible here: Conexant does not provide me with the drivers, Dell does. As stated, Dell most certainly customizes the drivers they license from Conexant, et. al., I cannot download generic Conexant drivers (now owned by Synaptic, btw), so they are going to come from Dell or Microsoft.

        While MS *can* do whatever they want (since they technically own the OS, users are licensed to use it), it is damaging to the ecosystem when OS updates don’t play well with relatively new drivers. As stated above, at least in my case, the drivers in question are dated 03/15/2019. So, we’re not talking about drivers from 7+ years ago. These were released to work with 1903/1909, in fact.

        Third, while hardware vendors/driver engineers, etc. may have access to dev builds … they are not going to test every previous version of a driver, especially if it worked with previous Windows builds and MS did not provide guidance as to what they changed that might cause such a widespread, if not esoteric, issue.

        Bottom line – this is impacting systems that are relatively young (I’ve seen some folks with systems less than 2 years old who have been hit with this) and MS has had 8 months now to rectify this – especially since this seems to be an issue during the upgrade, not with the drivers actually behaving well if you can get 2004/20H2 installed through some hackery. They hold significant responsibility in not letting all these systems become security risks to themselves when 1909 goes out of support in the near future – most folks are not going to know how or bother with workarounds to getting 2004/20H2 and beyond installed.

      • #2318988
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        don’t know why Microsoft recently wrote this:

        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-20h2#377msgdesc

        Resolution: This issue was resolved for safeguard IDs 25702662 and 25702673. The safeguard hold has been removed for these safeguard IDs as of December 11, 2020. Please note, if there are no other safeguards that affect your device, it can take up to 48 hours before the update to Windows 10, version 2004 or Windows 10, version 20H2 is offered.

        the issue is not fully resolved despite what MS has recently posted

        edit – some users mentioned here just did a manual 20H2 update and decided to remove existing Conexant audio drivers and just use the generic MS audio drivers before updating to 20H2 as some people don’t see any advantages of using Conexant drivers.

        • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by EP.
      • #2326194
        anonymous
        Guest

        I have a Lenovo 310 Ideapad running Windows 10 version 1909.
        Some have reported replacing the Conexant audio driver with the Microsoft
        HD audio driver and then waiting several days for the regular Windows Update
        process to install version 2004. Does this actually solve the problem?
        For example, when I start to install the Microsoft HD audio driver, it
        gives a warning that the driver may not be compatible. Elsewhere I’ve
        read that the chip set for the Conexant implementation could be the
        problem when going to the Microsoft HD audio driver. Any advice from
        other Lenovo users would be most welcome.

      • #2326241
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        Have you tried this advice from the link EP posted?

        UNINSTALLING (not “deleting”) the Conexant HD Audio Driver in Device Manager and then running the Windows 2004 update

        cheers, Paul

        • #2326303
          anonymous
          Guest

          I am really looking for Lenovo users with Conexant audio drivers who have been successful at updating from 1909 to 2004.  I don’t want to experiment if I can help it.

          • #2326379
            EP
            AskWoody_MVP

            I’m afraid you don’t have much of a choice but to experiment as Paul T mentioned, mr anonymous
            Lenovo is no longer providing any new drivers for your ideapad 310 model (because it’s more than 3 years old) so you will have to currently uninstall/remove your existing Conexant audio driver from the Add/Remove programs control panel before trying to update from 1909 to 2004/20H2 and then re-installing the Conexant driver after completing the feature update.

            • #2338313
              Ken
              AskWoody Plus

              Where do you get the driver after updating to 2004? Lenovo does not offer it.

              • #2338318
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                Windows will install it, either on its own or from update in Device Manager – right click the device with a yellow exclamation mark.

                cheers, Paul

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                Ken
              • #2338322
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                Nothing has exclamation mark, but one is version 8.66.76.61 which is within the range mentioned. Should I just “update the driver” and see what the new version is?

              • #2338328
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                Pre-update to V2004 you uninstall the driver and then run the upgrade – do not reboot before the upgrade.

                Post-upgrade, if the audio isn’t working, update the driver. If it is working, do nothing, except backup.

                cheers, Paul

              • #2338342
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                OK. 2004 has not been offered yet.

              • #2338343
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                If you want to move to 2004 you will need to do it manually.
                If so, start a new thread and we’ll walk you through the process.

                cheers, Paul

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                Ken
              • #2338350
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                Thanks, I’ll wait until it’s offered.

              • #2341290
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                I removed Conexant drivers yesterday, though was not able to delete Conexant folder  completely as ¨some files in use by another program¨. Device manager does not show any Conexant drivers.

                wumgr detected 2004 feature now available, but it has not yet appeared in WU. Can I install it from wumgr or should I wait until it appears in WU?

              • #2341298
                geekdom
                AskWoody Plus

                Can I install it from wumgr or should I wait until it appears in WU?

                You may install from WuMgr. I often do so.

                On Hiatus {with backup and coffee}
                offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
                offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
                online▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.804 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox86.0 WindowsDefender TRV=20H2 WuMgr
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                Ken
              • #2341345
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                I tried twice, this is what the log shows at the bottom of wimgr:

                “Found 1 pending updates

                Error: No Download url’s found for update Feature update to Windows 10, version 2004

                Downloaded 0 out of 0 to…..( etc)

                Updates (Un)installed successfully”

                I guess I have to wait for WU to show it.

                 

              • #2341470
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                My WuMgr doesn’t seem to have those message options. Can you post a screenshot?

                cheers, Paul

              • #2341495
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                Here are three screen shots so you can see the whole log notes at the bottom.

                wumgr3 shows 204 update available.

                wumgr1 shows window after trying to install, with first part of log notes at bottom.

                wumgr2 show the rest of the log notes at bottom.

                WU has not yet received the 2004 update.

              • #2341507
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                now 2004 showed up in WU. Will update from there.

              • #2341552
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                Installed 2004 without any problems.  ow I see following updates pending:

                4023057 (I had installed this in version 1909. Susan’s latest spreadsheet does not show this KB)

                4598242 (Susan’s latest spreadsheet says defer)

              • #2341559
                b
                AskWoody MVP

                4598242 (Susan’s latest spreadsheet says defer)

                Latest (January 31 links) says install.

                Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1149 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

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                Ken
              • #2341565
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                But no mention of 4023057?

                 

              • #2341567
                Alex5723
                AskWoody Plus

                I installed KB4023057 with no ill effects.

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                Ken
              • #2341596
                Bob99
                AskWoody Plus

                KB4023057 is simply MS’s attempt to restore your update settings to what MS thinks they should be in order to get you to update to the latest version of Windows 10. In this case, the latest version is 20H2, not 2004, so MS really wants you to get 20H2 installed, and they’re willing to change your update settings to ensure you get it.

                That’s why you’re being offered the update. When I was on 2004 back in mid-January, I was offered that update, which I promptly hid because I was going to 20H2 in a short time anyway. Although @Alex5723 installed it with no ill effects as he says, you can feel free to use wumgr to hide the update if you wish.

                If you do install the patch (or have already installed the patch), be sure to check ALL of your update settings in gpedit to make sure they haven’t been tampered with. If they have, simply return them to your preferred settings. If you have the Home edition of Windows 10, you’ll have to check your registry settings (described in AKB2000016) to see if they’ve been modified from what you had them set to. As above: If they’ve been modified, return them to your own preferences.

                • This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by Bob99.
              • #2341647
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                This patch was installed on my Home pc as well as my Pro pc: neither one suffered what you relate. Do you have any evidence to support your argument?

              • #2341696
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP
              • #2341788
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                On my W10Pro pc, after installing 2004, wumgr showed KB4023057 as installed. I checked again this morning, wumgr now shows it as pending, together with all previously hidden updates, mostly drivers. I hid them all.

                On my W10Home pc, now updated also to 2004, KB4023057 has been installed, and am unable to uninstall it.

              • #2341810
                geekdom
                AskWoody Plus

                I checked again this morning, wumgr now shows it as pending, together with all previously hidden updates, mostly drivers. I hid them all. On my W10Home pc, now updated also to 2004, KB4023057 has been installed, and am unable to uninstall it.

                KB4023057 is offered again and again. It either needs to be reinstalled or hidden each time, depending on your preference.

                If KB4023057 has been installed and gives no problems, don’t try to uninstall it. Leave it in place.

                On Hiatus {with backup and coffee}
                offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
                offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
                online▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.804 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox86.0 WindowsDefender TRV=20H2 WuMgr
              • #2339111
                Ken
                AskWoody Plus

                So far 2004 has not been offered. Is the Conexant driver blocking this? Should I uninstall the driver and then wait for 2004 to be offered?

              • #2339123
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                It’s not blocked by the driver. You can do the 2004 update manually if you really want it, otherwise wait a day or two – there really is no rush.

                cheers, Paul

                • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by Paul T.
        • #2337413
          anonymous
          Guest

          Have you tried this advice from the link EP posted? UNINSTALLING (not “deleting”) the Conexant HD Audio Driver in Device Manager and then running the Windows 2004 update cheers, Paul

          That worked for me.

          I also saw a note somewhere that said Microsoft released something on Dec 11th which would get around the block. I’m sorry I don’t remember what.

      • #2326365
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        Experimenting is the way others have found out.

        Make an image backup to your external USB HDD, then test. Restore is simple – as long as you have created a rescue USB.

        cheers, Paul

        • #2326380
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          the anonymous person who has the lenovo ideapad 310 laptop can try to ask in the Lenovo community forums to see if others who have similar issues updating to 2004 because of old or outdated Conexant audio drivers

        • #2326871
          anonymous
          Guest

          Yes, I’ve made a system image and posted to Lenovo forum.  So far, crickets.  Thanks for thinking about it.

          • #2335644
            anonymous
            Guest

            I updated the audio driver from Conexant to “High Definition Audio Device” which works just fine.  Note, I did an update rather than an uninstall.  That was a week ago and am still waiting to have Windows Update provide the next version of the operating system — either 2004 or 20H2 — but, so far Windows Update has done nothing except offer January patches for 1909.   I wonder if a total uninstall is necessary to get rid of the Conexant problem so that Windows Update will offer the next available version?

            • #2335700
              PKCano
              Manager

              See #2326241 above. That is what you need to do.

              • #2335822
                anonymous
                Guest

                Is there some way to uninstall/remove the Conexant driver without having to install it again?  The MS driver works fine.

              • #2335901
                anonymous
                Guest

                Yes, there is!  Use the open-source DriverStoreExplorer and check the box B4 the driver, then check the Force Deletion box, and then click Delete Driver.  Use wushowhide and hide the Conexant driver so it won’t install.  So, once again, I’m waiting for Windows Update to offer the next OS version.

              • #2336264
                anonymous
                Guest

                The next day WU offered version 20H2.  It took 1.25 hours to download and install and an additional 1.5 hours for the restart procedure to finish.  Once again you must execute  wushowhide to hide the Conexant driver so it won’t install — this is because all the wushowhide info is lost during the installation of the new operating system.

      • #2335593
        CraigS26
        AskWoody Plus

        With NO 2004 Ever offered per presumed Conexant issue & With multi-Macrium images ready …  I just went — from 1909 to 20H2 (19042.746) — AFTER Uninstalling my (Sound-Video-Game) Conexant driver 8.65.282.54 (NOT in the affected list, but who knows). I used the 20H2 Dnload page url at bottom, Clk’d Update Now button, the EXE file went to desktop, and it was just waiting on the process.

        No one mentioned ref Uninstall Conexant Driver (You are about to uninstall this device from your system) AND a BOXDelete software from this driver“. I did NOT Chk that box. As with others, the Same Driver shows in DevMgr now. AUDIO is working and I PRINTED a test Word Doc..

        Almost forgot … I had to Re-Do GP setting Defining 2004 as my Target Release Ver. Couldn’t remember Correct Label for 20H2 so I chk’d Not Configured and No issues. So Re-visit your GP, etc. Blocks setup B4 proceeding..

        Just found that Settings Update History is Blank and a little Nirsoft WU History Viewer App is Blank. Control Panel Update History has 8 entries incl’ing 20H2. Maybe Settings will evolve per some clock refresh.

        It took about an hour & half.

        https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

        W10 Pro 21H1 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / HP Envy Desktop-Ethernet/ 12 GB / 256G SSD + 1 TB HDD / i5-8400 CoffeeLake-S / GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU=0

        • This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by CraigS26.
        • This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by CraigS26.
        • #2339609
          anonymous
          Guest

          I would like report that I was successful in upgrading a Lenovo TP 420s from 1909 to 20H2 after a long wait due to the Conexant Driver issue. I uninstalled the driver in Device Manager (not deleted) before forcing the update. After the update the Conexant driver was back in play. Thanks for posting Craig.

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      • #2337522
        Ken
        AskWoody Plus

        On another topic, I have Microsoft 365, click-to-run version 2012, build 13530.20440. I never see this version in the update listings in the patch watch files nor in Susan´s list here.  How come?

        • #2337549
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          Click to Run is never included in Susan’s list. It’s updated every time you run it.

          cheers, Paul

          • #2337881
            Susan Bradley
            Manager

            It’s in the office section of the spreadsheets, first tab.  It’s also so much in the background that we often forget about it.

            Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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            Ken
            • #2337890
              Paul T
              AskWoody MVP

              Oops! My bad.

              cheers, Paul

            • #2337918
              Ken
              AskWoody Plus

              As mentoned, my version Microsoft 365, click-to-run version 2012, build 13530.20440 is not there, I have never seen it even when the version number was different.

          • #2337883
            b
            AskWoody MVP

            Click to Run is never included in Susan’s list.

            Click-to-run versions have been included right at the top of Susan’s Office Master Patch Lists for more than 18 months:

            Office/Exchange Master Patch List

            Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1149 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

      • #2337847
        Paul
        AskWoody Lounger

        Finally, last night, my Lenovo E420 with Conexant audio drivers offered the update from Win 10 Home 1909 to 20H2 Build 19042.746. I did it, and it went without a hitch. Audio is working fine.

      • #2349856
        anonymous
        Guest

        Dear All

        Just a couple of points from my side:

        1. Thanks to all the good people here for sharing their experience – I was just able to update to Windows 10 20H2. I uninstalled and deleted the conexant audio driver and am now using the MS standard HD audio driver. So far, the conexant driver has  not reappeared.  I am using a Lenovo Yoga 12.
        2. This seems to be the total normal situation of nobody being in charge at Lenovo or Microsoft or Synaptics, who bought conexant in 2017. So MS is blaming it on Lenovo who is blaming it on MS, both are blaming conexant/Synaptics and nothing happens. “Honi soit qui mal y pense” – just buy a new device …
        3. Conexant was blamed for having installed a keylogger in their audio drivers, especially for HP computers. So this might be another good reason for getting rid of this old audio driver.
        4. The driver / update situation at Lenovo is very bad with android devices. I love my thinkpads and will try to use them as long as possible. But stay away from Lenovo´s android stuff, you will most probably not get a lot of updates or none at all …

        Cheers

      • #2350040
        Kathy Stevens
        AskWoody Lounger

        We are still not being offered Windows 10 2004/20H2 due to the Conexant HD Audio Issue on a number of our HP workstations.

        Under Device Manager – Sound, video and game controllers we see:

        • Andrea Comm USB-SA Headset,
        • Conexant HD Audio, and
        • NVIDIA High Definition Audio

        The only audio we use with the systems are the Andrea Comm USB-SA Headsets.

        Should we consider uninstalling the Conexant HD Audio driver?

        And if we do, what impact will it have on workstations?

        • #2350047
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          The standard process is to remove the conexant driver and wait for WU to do it’s thing.
          That isn’t an option in the office.

          I would try downloading the 2004/H2 ISO, remove Conexant, disconnect from the internet, mount the ISO and run setup.exe.

          cheers, Paul

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