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      • #2268222 Reply
        Tracey Capen
        AskWoody MVP

        PATCH WATCH By Susan Bradley Microsoft’s latest “feature” update is being offered up. Here’s my immediate recommendation: Don’t install it! No newly r
        [See the full post at: Windows 10 2004 has left the barn]

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      • #2268250 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        the Win10 v2004 feature update has not shown up yet after checking for updates for 4 straight days on my father’s Toshiba C55Dt-A laptop. maybe because the laptop is several years old.
        btw, it’s running Win10 v1909 home.

      • #2268283 Reply
        anotherwindowsuser
        AskWoody Lounger

        I decided to use the upgrade assistant today to make the upgrade to 2004. The upgrade went smooth and so far there aren’t any issues and now the Windows Store is working again. Privacy settings remain the same, but Onedrive came back.

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      • #2268284 Reply
        Win7and10
        AskWoody Lounger

        Good Day,

        From what has been posted here, you do NOT have to download the new version if the notice appears when the computer checks on it’s own for updates.

        I have deferred the updates until 6/15/20 for May as we were waiting for the all clear from Woody.

        Today we have all clear Defcon 4.

        If I check for May updates, will the Win10 v2004 be optional to install or can I defer it.

        I have W10 1909 Home.

        Thank!

        Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
        Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

        • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Win7and10.
        • #2268290 Reply
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          From Susan’s blog post, “Bottom line: Protecting your PC from problematic updates is no different from fending off other threats and failures. Always have a current and thorough system backup!

          “… is no different …”.  Exactly.  Nothing beats a current and thorough system backup (drive imaging is my method of choice) for getting out of Windows/PC/laptop problems of any kind.  One can literally turn back the clock.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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      • #2268294 Reply
        RVAUser
        AskWoody Plus

        Just received a refurbished XPS15 for my son’s graduation gift.  Had lots of trouble updating everything (perhaps because he and I weren’t always working in tandem  :-\ ), and ended up downloading the W10 creation tool for a clean install.  [Having problems getting past the “Checking the connection to Microsoft.  This may take a while” / “Let’s connect you to a network” loop, so gonna try taking out some of the RAM].  But assuming we do get back onto the clean install path, will the version of W10Pro we get already come with the 2004 update?  If not, how do we prevent it from loading while loading other updates?  And if so, is there any way we can roll it back without having any backup for this new computer?

        Thanks —

        • #2268340 Reply
          rc primak
          AskWoody_MVP

          With MCT, unless you check the checkbox which asks if you want to download all current updates during the install process, what you download is what you get. If you have a copy for 1909, you get 1909 until you allow the 2004 upgrade. Am I incorrect this time around?

          -- rc primak

          • #2268816 Reply
            b
            AskWoody Plus

            @RVAuser will get 2004 via MCT. Too late for 1909.

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            • #2268817 Reply
              Microfix
              AskWoody MVP

              confirmed here too, I think June 1st was the cut-off date for 1909 via MCT

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      • #2268345 Reply
        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        Driver issues after a Feature Update are very common. It is worth noting that in addition to System and Data backups, you should have Driver Backups. In Windows 10, all you need to do is make a copy of the Driver Store from inside the Windows/System32 folder. This folder will run a few gigabytes, so copy it sparingly. But if you need to roll back any drivers, your Local Source would be this backed-up Folder. Windows Device Manager can use the contents to restore most drivers.

        Also useful if your device has it, is an OEM Manufacturer’s tool to get their latest drivers, appropriate to your particular hardware setup.

        Wise users don’t let Microsoft Update decide which drivers are the best for our devices.  Use wushowhide to make sure you are blocking any MS Update driver-only downloads. But be aware — CUs sometimes contain driver updates within them. Microsoft keeps telling us they won’t do that, but in my experience it keeps happening.

        -- rc primak

      • #2268475 Reply
        RVAUser
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks for your reply.   What’s MCT?

        And now that we’ve done a clean install (v. 1809), I’m trying to bring it up to 1909 – but DON’T want to go to 2004.  Is there any way to do this?  Even with Pro, I don’t see a way to pick and choose updates like we could do in W7.

        Thanks again for your help.

        • #2268479 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          MCT is Media Creation Tool – from Microsoft is the tool you download to create a Win10 ISO on your computer. At present, the MCT will create the ISO for Win10 v2004.

          If you have Win10 Home and you want v1909, you will need to download the ISO Download Tool from Heidoc.net.
          Execute it on your computer and choose the latest ISO for Win10 1909 (Build 18363).

          If you have Win10 Pro, there is another option. You can set the Windows Update options as described in Section 4 of AKB2000016. There are screenshots that show how to set the “2” in Group Policy. Once you have those settings, change the Feature Update deferral pulldown in Windows Update\Advanced Settings to 100 days and wait for the computer to check for updates (it can take up to 36 hours). You should be offered v1909.

          • #2268811 Reply
            Microfix
            AskWoody MVP

            Just a note on using the heidoc download tool.
            If you find the version is earlier than Build 18363, it’s probably the initial release which had a hard-coded WU error. (thanks MS)
            I done this by accident but, on further trials found a workaround rather than re-downloading the iso again.

            I went windows catalog and downloaded the April 2020 Cumulative Update(CU) and the April 2020 Service Stack Update (SSU)
            Once Win10 1909 was installed offline with a local account, I firstly went to ‘services’ and killed the WU service and installed the April CU then upon restart installed the SSU. Thereafter was as normal after tweaks etc..

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      • #2268814 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Install it on your computer

        The tool is portable 🙂

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        • #2268818 Reply
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          splitting hairs..? execute or run the MCT then 🙂

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      • #2268819 Reply
        b
        AskWoody Plus

        PATCH WATCH By Susan Bradley
        The Windows release health dashboard lists a growing number of issues with the new OS. One especially shameful glitch impacts Microsoft’s own Surface devices. There’s absolutely no excuse for problems with the company’s own hardware!

        Two or three models out of 21?

      • #2268826 Reply
        b
        AskWoody Plus

        PATCH WATCH By Susan Bradley
        Microsoft is being surprisingly transparent about showcasing the expanding list of known issues and peculiarities — especially with drivers. It suggests that the company simply hasn’t sufficiently tested the latest Windows.

        How would Microsoft be able to publish a comprehensive and detailed list of obscure incompatibilities at the time of release if they hadn’t conducted sufficient testing?

        • #2268931 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          The implication is that marketing pressure to release the software prevented them fixing the things affecting their own hardware. Hardly reassuring.

          cheers, Paul

      • #2269033 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        this recently was posted on Born’s blog – Windows 10 Version 2004: Forced upgrade without user consent
        https://borncity.com/win/2020/06/03/windows-10-version-2004-forced-upgrade-without-user-consent/

        what are woody & Susan’s thoughts on this?

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      • #2269418 Reply
        KP
        AskWoody Plus

        For Windows 10 1809  Patchers.
        There is a third .NET Framework however it is part of KB4556441. The third one is KB4552924. If you look at KB4556441, you will see both KB4552930 and KB4552924 inside the patch.

         

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      • #2269458 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Windows 10 May 2020 Update is causing issues with Intel Optane

        ‘If you install Windows 10 May 2020 Update on a device with Intel Optane memory, you’re likely to get into trouble, according to my own tests and user reports on Intel forum, Twitter and Feedback Hub (1, 2, 3)…If you force the update via Media Creation Tool, your PC is likely to run into compatibility issues. During the update process, Windows 10 removes one Optane Memory Pinning file from the device, but it would still try to run it and this leads to multiple errors and even performance issues.”..

        https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/06/04/windows-10-may-2020-update-intel-optane-issues/

      • #2269567 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        There is an official workaround for optane issues post 2004 feature upgrade.
        See https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000056299/memory-and-storage.html

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