Windows 10 22H2 – the stable version

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Well Microsoft has made it official, 22H2 will be the last feature release for Windows 10. This is a good thing. 10 is now entering into the “most sta
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for how long?

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Window 10 22H2 is supported until October of 2025 is it’s official support date.  After that I am hoping that they offer up an extended support like they did for Windows 7.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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Excellent news!
Sustainability without interuptions and prompts to ‘creature upgrade’
TRV (GP redundancy) for W10 Pro >
And those windows 11 users will have the groundhog-day all over again 🙂

Keeping IT Lean, Clean and Mean!

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No problem 0Patch  Pro will also  probably be offing something like they did with W 7.

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My PC is not able to “upgrade” to Win 11. MY OS is currently Win 1o Pro 22H2 and I’m very happy with it. For me, there’s never had an issue  that I couldn’t deal with, especially with the help the members of this forum have provided me.

I have no desire to buy a new computer just so I can have Win 11, especially with all the issues I read about it on this site. I, too, am hopeful that O Patch offer security updates for Win 10.

Peace,

CAS

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Yes! This is a very good thing!

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- Mint Cinnamon 21 current, Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

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So Windows 10 22H2 will be supported for 3 years for all “regular” versions (Home / Pro / Education / Enterprise). Good news to those using them.

Microsoft for once has done something sensible for Windows 10, haha.

And (the first version of) Windows 11 LTSC will be available next year. I will check it to see what the deal is then. At present 11 is “no thanks” for me.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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James Bond 007 wrote:

Microsoft for once has done something sensible for Windows 10, haha.

Not a laughing matter, IT psychosis and burn-outs at large thanks to MSFT with W10 over the years…the sith have fooled and tricked many.

Keeping IT Lean, Clean and Mean!

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Microfix wrote:

Not a laughing matter, IT psychosis and burn-outs at large thanks to MSFT with W10 over the years…the sith have fooled and tricked many.

No doubt you are right. But for me, Windows 10 has been a joke for the past 8 years and still is, especially when compared to Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

No update control by default, twice-a-year feature updates that destabilize the system and disrupt work (which only ended recently), consumers treated as testers, etc. I’ve been watching this mess from the sidelines for the past 8 years and am so grateful I’ve been able to avoid all or most of it so far.

It is only now with 22H2 being the final version that there’s some hope of stability returning (to the regular versions of 10). But the system will lose support in 2.5 years and then the instability cycle will start again (with 11) if you want to continue to use Windows and remain supported.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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Well if you measure Stability by the frequency of BSOD’s per annum or encountered in normal usage, then Win10, closely followed by Win’s 7 + 8.1 with a close 3rd Win2000 jointly with Win98SE. NT4 was ok with  Service Pack 6? but that wasn’t widely available to the masses. Then Win10 is the Winner. Cant remember the last BSOD, even on boot.

As for ongoing or “niggly” gripes Networking on a home basis with Home version is hit and miss at best and the “Metro or UWP” Apps are a perennial gripe metamorphosing from a useful diversion even useful on some occasions to an all out “Shopping Channel” and Checkout Gossip mags while waiting in the Store for a good “old fashioned” Grocery checkout.

Heres hoping Win11 is better, a little early to write Win10’s obituary just yet as the twilight years of any WinOS tends to be the best hassle free period of its life, however first impressions of Win11 aren’t promising, but then again, I say that about every new release.  😉

 

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I’m still on 21H2, but will be going over to 22H2 after installing the May patches.

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When a user has major Windows problems like high CPU usage, start menu not opening, or taskbar search not working, I often hope that installation of the feature update (preferably from ISO, not the tiny enablement package) will clean up and fix the system, and it usually does.  So I am not as thrilled by the lack of more Windows 10 feature updates.  I had already recommended to some users with hard to debug problems the hope that when it came out at the end of the year it might mysteriously fix it.

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Repair install over the top

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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The monthly ones contain security and bug fixes.  A bug fix would fix things like high CPU usage.  Updates like 22H2 would tend to have new features

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I have all 3 of my computers happily running Windows 10 Pro 22H2. Only one of them has hardware compatibility for Windows 11, but that one will stay snuggly with Win 10 until 2025.

As for the other 2? They don’t handle sensitive info, so we’ll see how far they can get after Win 10 EOL. 🙂

Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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I’ve only just started updating my family computers to W10 in the past month. I never got over the original “encouragement” to update and so I stubbornly resisted for a loooong time.

All were produced 2010-12, so originally came with W7, which I was and remain quite happy with. All remain perfectly usable for home use after RAM and SSD upgrades, so I see no need to buy new. Of course, none meet the various hardware requirements for W11, but then again I haven’t seen any features in W11 (or honestly, W10) that provide any utility for me.

Who knows what the future holds. I’ve dabbled with various Linux distros so perhaps I’ll eventually end up there.

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This actually seems like a good thing… no more randomly added nonsense that no-one ever asked for?

Stability at last, until 2025?

Yep, that’s absolutely fine by me.

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By Microsoft’s parlance, Windows 10 has been “out of development” for a couple of years, and where we’re already in “Extended Support”.  The tone of announcements always implies that’s a bad thing for users because it means they haven’t moved to Windows 11 and aren’t getting the latest feature releases.  That’s fine by me — I find it rare that changes to feature sets are positive.  Thus, I agree that Extended Support is a place where I want to be.

To me, the real significance of this is merely that we won’t be seeing any further annual updates that we have to wait to see how long they shake out all the bugs, or be forced into adopting.

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Cybertooth

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ASW wrote:

Who knows what the future holds. I’ve dabbled with various Linux distros so perhaps I’ll eventually end up there.

“No-one knows what the future may bring…”

… but you have a while to explore various flavours of Linux or other OS’ before making any decision.

I suggest Linux Mint – any version that’s appropriate for your hardware platforms – well in advance, so nothing comes as an unwelcome surprise to you. In my experience, Mint works well as a dual-boot environment.

Try to make it a slow and gradual learning curve well in advance instead of feeling dropped in at the deep end when you least want it to. 🙂

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Rick Corbett wrote:

I suggest Linux Mint – any version that’s appropriate for your hardware platforms – well in advance, so nothing comes as an unwelcome surprise to you. In my experience, Mint works well as a dual-boot environment.

I like Linux Mint and have used it on and off for years. Have used it on dedicated computers, as well as dual boot and virtual machines. Currently use Mint Mate in a VirtualBox VM.

It runs very well in a VM if your PC is up to virtualization hardware wise, and is a great way to explore Linux Mint or others without having to reboot.

When I’m using it I don’t really miss Windows itself, as Linux Mint is a great system, easy to use and stable.

The only thing when using Linux is that I really miss my commercial Windows-only applications that do not have full native Linux equivalents. I tried using Linux as my online daily driver for a couple of years, and it works really well for web, email, and cloud based apps. It’s also got internet and programming apps very well covered. You should check out the Mint application packages to see what’s available:

https://community.linuxmint.com/software

Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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Rick Corbett wrote:

This actually seems like a good thing… no more randomly added nonsense that no-one ever asked for?

Stability at last, until 2025?

Yep, that’s absolutely fine by me.

Yes, we have Edge for that now (randomly added nonsense that no-one ever asked for).

I use Firefox most of the time but I still update Edge regularly and after every update I usually go though Settings to check and see if anything new that I didn’t want and will probably never use has been added (and is always turned on by default, of course).

Nice to finally have a ‘stable’ version of Windows 10 though.

PC1: Gigabyte B560M D2V Motherboard, Intel i5 11400 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 22H2 64bit.
PC2: Asus H81M-PLUS Motherboard, Intel i3-4160 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Home 22H2 64bit.

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Carl D wrote:

Yes, we have Edge for that now (randomly added nonsense that no-one ever asked for).

IMO Edge has quickly evolved to become the new STD of browsers and one that I actively try to avoid.

Regrettably that’s not possible… it’s invidious. I spend a lot of time helping friends and family understand why they are now having problems… since Edge was force-installed. 🙁

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And so often PaleMoon does not render usefully. 😣😪

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Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.

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Unfortunately, all of the browsers that are trailing-edge forks of Firefox/Gecko tend to have rendering issues.  It’s not just PaleMoon, but Seamonkey and Waterfox, as well.

Besides the fact that a lot of developers write for Chrome and don’t really care about any other browsers, many web pages make varying amounts of scripting, and for users of Gecko browsers, that requires use of Quantum — at least V57, and typically at least V78.

The trailing-edge don’t support Quantum (explicitly, in the case of PaleMoon, which forked an older version of Gecko to Goanna), and as a result, they can’t run the scripting that is assumed by developers who expect current versions  of Chrome.

The reality is that with Web 2.0, the web has moved from rendering static HTML content to dynamic content delivered by scripts.

If you use one of the trailing edge browsers, there may be good reason for you to do so, but you’ll have to accept that there are sites where you’ll need to use another browser.  Most of the time, a current version of Firefox should be adequate, but I’ve seen a few sites that require some Chromium-derived browser.  If not Chrome itself, then something like Opera, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, Epic, etc.  I haven’t done enough recently on a Mac to know how well Safari behaves, but I would guess that if a developer is checking handling on non-Chrome browsers, they’re more likely to check against Safari than Mozilla browsers.

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At this point do you consider Windows 11 22H2 stable enough?

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Save_Us_from_MS wrote:

At this point do you consider Windows 11 22H2 stable enough?

No.

Each monthly updates removes/adds/change.. things in Windows 11 22H2

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