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      • #131640 Reply
        Da Boss

        Or at least, that’s what Terry Myerson just said on the IFA keynote. I wish they’d show me something that I actually want to have in the next version
        [See the full post at: Windows 10 Fall Creators Update – version 1709 – will arrive on October 17]

      • #131656 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        Well, I’m still on Anniversary Update as my 8-months old HP PC is not in a rush to move to Creators Update whatsoever (neither am I) – and now this…!

      • #131659 Reply

        Excellent depiction of the state Microsoft has put themselves in.

        Microsoft has lost their way. Their cash cow, their dominance, has been the corporate world. They should concentrate on making superior products for the corporate world; if they would do this, they would continue to own that world, and that world would continue to be a strong market.

        Instead, they chase after Google and Apple, two companies that they can never hope to compete with in the world of Google and Apple.

        Group "L" (Linux Mint)
        with Windows 8.1 running in a VM
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      • #131665 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        I think this new release will be more memorable for what they took out prior to release rather than what they left in.

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      • #131674 Reply
        John in Mtl
        AskWoody Lounger

        Where’s my new and improved Windows 7 ?

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      • #131679 Reply

        When Steve Ballmer was exclaiming “Developers!, Developers!, Developers!…” when delivering such an public address I could try to believe him, these other dudes along with their other policies and public facing actions cause me to turn away from Microsoft.

      • #131689 Reply
        Jan K.
        AskWoody Lounger

        I wish they’d show me something that I actually want to have in the next version of Windows.


        As I understand things, there’s no other way for you than you’ll have to take it?

        Sooner or later of course…

        • #131699 Reply
          Da Boss

          Not at all. Version 1703 will be supported for 18 months. You can stay with it until Sept 2018.

          Of course, there’s no guarantee they’ll continue to support it properly – see

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          • #131816 Reply
            Jan K.
            AskWoody Lounger

            You can stay with it until Sept. 2018

            That’s what I meant with “later”… by then the added new features probably won’t be fewer?
            Or perhaps your “want to have”s have grown by then?! 😛

            Either way, you’ll have to take it, whether you want or not.

        • #131783 Reply

          Although it is against the spirit of using Windows 10 to not upgrade at least when CBB is released and I would actually recommend moving on at CB time for end users not running complex applications with legacy dependencies, there is still scope to keep using the major releases doubled by LTSB/LTSC releases. Until now those releases are 1507 and 1607.
          1607 in particular will be supported much longer as it has been released as Windows 2016 Server as well.

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      • #131835 Reply
        AskWoody Lounger

        I just yawn at these releases anymore and cringe that it might break stuff. I also don’t give a c*** about any of the new stuff in it. As many say, the VR stuff is already way behind everyone else as usual. Don’t clutter up my PC with more stuff that you will probably give up on Microsoft.

      • #131925 Reply
        Northwest Rick
        AskWoody Plus

        OK, I have to ask:  will it be possible to go directly from 1607 to 1709, skipping 1703 entirely?  Inquiring minds want to know…

      • #319760 Reply
        AskWoody Plus

        I’ve been stuck on Version 1709 Build 16299.579 since August 2018 and don’t know what to do.

        The two entries in my update history that seem relevant are:

        1. Feature update to version 1803 (14) – Last failed install attempt Feb. 1, 2019 error 0x800704c7

        2. 2018-12 Update to Windows 10 version 1709 for x-64 based systems (KB4023057) (2) – Last failed install attempt on December 10 2018 – 0x80246013

        The computer keeps trying to update, thinks it has updated, fails, and then instantly starts trying to download and install again, and constantly wants me to restart. Repeat, repeat.

        Is there a fix for this? I’m desperate. I’ve tried a clean install from an ISO file, clearing my corrupted update file, run the troubleshooter, renamed files, waited for Intel to install a new type of display driver — in short, all the suggestions that are out there. Nothing works.

        Please help. Thanks

        • #319771 Reply
          AskWoody MVP

          @lenrdbik- This looks like a good candidate for its own topic under W10 Support. Thank you for the information detail, and what has already been tried.

          Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

        • #319816 Reply
          AskWoody Lounger

          I just updated to 1709 myself the other day.  No problems.  However, in my research before allowing the update to proceed, I reviewed a lot of the potential problems others had seen, just to be prepared.  Keep in mind, that it took a long time to completely update.

          I noticed that your item 2 relates to KB4023057, which updates the Windows Update components, so the failure of that might lead to other problems.  I am also aware that some folks do not recommend installing KB4023057.  I had no issues with it.

          Several people on the following thread had the same problem as you with error 0x800704c7 updating 1709, and they seemed to have their problem solved using the recommendations in the thread.  Some of the suggestions are similar to things that you have said that you tried, but there might be something in there that you could use.  In particular, it gives detailed instructions for resetting the Windows Update components, which solved the problems for some.

      • #319806 Reply
        AskWoody Plus

        [Personal message to Elly – ] I thought this was the W10 support forum. Where is it and how do I post there? Be only too happy to. The link in the right panel takes me here.


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