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      • #2360220
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        https://twitter.com/BleepinComputer/status/1386008170405969922 “A small subset of users have reported lower than expected performance in games after i
        [See the full post at: Windows 10 gaming issues fixed with known issue rollback]

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2360225
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Given the evergrowing $billion gaming industries worldwide, and the time taken to fix this?, I’ll bet the game developers and gamers alike have been more than happy at Woody’s MS-Defcon system.

        W10, the itch you simply cannot scratch!
        • #2360228
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          …And many gamers have uninstalled April update long ago.

          • #2360232
            Microfix
            AskWoody MVP

            yeah, for a timescale reference once discovered, I posted hereon the 15th April with reference to Martin Brinkmann’s Ghacks quick report.

            W10, the itch you simply cannot scratch!
      • #2360242
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Users should restart their Windows PC every day for the next 24 hours – week in order to receive the fix ?

        • #2360247
          b
          AskWoody MVP

          Only those with version 2004/20H2 and April CU and NVIDIA GPU and full screen games and two monitors and only today and only if they want it faster.

          Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

      • #2360412
        b
        AskWoody MVP

        How to verify if the fix has been installed

        This patch is entirely cloud-based so it can’t be verified by comparing the OS version or build numbers. To verify the fix, simply open Registry Editor and navigate to the following location:

        HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FeatureManagement\Overrides\4\1837593227

        If you’re able to access the above location and you can see the “EnabledState” entry with value 1, that means the fix has been applied.

        Windows 10 KB5001330: Microsoft issues emergency fix for performance issues

        Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

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        • #2360582
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          So how can Microsoft update a reg entry on a Windows PC behind users back with no notifications/opt-in ?

          • #2360586
            Ascaris
            AskWoody MVP

            Windows Update has access to the entire registry and file system. It needs to in order to work.

            Group "L" (KDE Neon Linux 5.21.5 User Edition)

            • #2360590
              Alex5723
              AskWoody Plus

              My Windows GP is set to ‘notify…=2’ and Microsoft should honor that unless I select ‘download’…

              • #2360685
                b
                AskWoody MVP

                EULA:

                “By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice.”

                Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

              • #2360687
                Susan Bradley
                Manager

                They don’t send down a patch. I covered this in an article a bit back. When non security fixes are released they leave the original code behind and ship the new code. If there’s an issue they then enable the original code to be rolled back onto the machine. There’s no “patch” because both updates are there already on your system.

                Susan Bradley Patch Lady

        • #2360695
          anonymous
          Guest

          Just checked my Home 20H2.

          I haven’t checked for updates since 09 April (for the March updates).  But that key looks as if it has been altered.

          No double screens, no games.  But I have a NVidia GPU.

          And I never even noticed MS rummaging around…

          • #2361741
            anonymous
            Guest

            I also see it here, but I only have Intel HD Graphics 4400, i.e integrated on an X1 Carbon 2014

      • #2360556
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        To check that key easily, open a Command Prompt and enter this command:

        reg query HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FeatureManagement\Overrides\4\1837593227

        cheers, Paul

      • #2360706
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        then enable the original code to be rolled back onto the machine. There’s no “patch” because both updates are there already on your system.

        I know that there was no patch but even the ‘roll back’ should be opt-in to users.
        I haven’t installed April updates yet but I do have the reg entry.

        • #2360708
          b
          AskWoody MVP

          I haven’t installed April updates yet but I do have the reg entry.

          So you should appreciate the pre-emptive attention which means you’ll never see the problem. 😉

          Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

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      • #2360841
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Only those with version 2004/20H2 and April CU and NVIDIA GPU and full screen games and two monitors and only today and only if they want it faster.

        So, Microsoft’s Telemetry decided that I am a gamer/use/have :

        April CU and NVIDIA GPU and full screen games and two monitors ?
        Except for Nvidia GPU I don’t use/have none of the above.

      • #2361226
        Bob99
        AskWoody Plus

        I, too, like @Alex5723 above, have not yet installed the April patch (KB5001330), but I do indeed have the aforementioned registry key in all its glory with all of the settings exactly as described by @b above.

        I DO have a question for @b : Where did you find the exact specs (dual monitor, Nvidia GPU, full screen gameplay, etc.) for those who should have received the KIR treatment? The only spec that I meet that is mentioned in your post above (#2360247) is that I have an Nvidia GPU that’s not exactly bleeding edge, a GTX 1050 Ti with 4 gigs of GDDR5.

        • #2361239
          b
          AskWoody MVP

          I was only describing my opinion of those who needed to get the fix faster by restarting, based on Microsoft’s details of the issue.

          Presumably it’s going out to anyone on 2004/20H2 with an NVIDIA GPU just in case they install the April patch and connect two monitors to play full screen games.

          Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

        • #2361743
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          Based in the reports of that registry key, I think they proactively pushed it out to everyone.

           

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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          b
          • #2361816
            Paul T
            AskWoody MVP

            Not on my 2004 W10 Home laptop with metered connection.
            I’ve not installed any patches since early last month.

            Do you know how the change is pushed?

            cheers, Paul

      • #2362150
        AJ2000
        AskWoody Plus

        Dear All,

        Thanks for the continued coverage of this issue in your forums.

        However, this issue is not resolved and does affect more systems that only have single monitors. AMD GPUs are also impacted. Games on my system that used to run smoothly just yesterday now run slowly after installing the update.

        The KIR is installed and shows the expected result from the following article:

        https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/05/01/verify-fix-for-windows-10-april-patch-tuesday-performance-issues/

        I have dual Nvidia GPUs in NVLink and use dual monitors (but not while gaming).

        I think it is outrageous that Microsoft do not more thoroughly test updates on systems with high performance AMD and Nvidia GPUs with the latest vendor driver installed. I’m not asking for them to have many high-performance systems on hand to test; just a minimum of two systems; one with an AMD GPU, the other Nvidia. Not all systems can be accurately simulated by the vast volumes of Azure virtual machine they use to test monthly updates.  Last month it was printers they caused issues with; this month its GPUs and games. What next?

        I took the advice of “sedmison” (Graphics Engineer from the Windows Graphics team) from the second Reddit thread linked to below and submitted a recording of the issue via the Feedback hub.

        Some posters in the Reddit threads indicate that insider builds of 21H1 resolve these issues so there is reason for optimism.

        Thanks again.

        ==============

        Further references:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/myyr1r/kb5001330_still_causing_fps_issuesi_heard_there/

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/mqvhpa/kb5001330_bad_gaming_performance/

        https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/user/15/448105//?comment=3061074

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        My system specification is shown below:

        CPU: Intel Core i9 7980XE @ 2.6 GHz with Corsair H150i Liquid cooling

        RAM: 64GB Corsair Dominator Platinum PC4-21300 + 64 GB Intel Optane Memory Accelerator

        Motherboard: Asus Rampage VI Apex

        GPUs: 2x Nvidia Titan RTX (NVLink Enabled) (Nvidia Driver 460.89)

        Hard Drives: Corsair Neutron NX 500 800 GB (for Windows), 10 TB Seagate SkyHawk AI and 5 TB WD Caviar Black

        PSU: Corsair AX1600i

        Sound Card: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus Pure Edition

        Displays: Dell UP3218K (at 7680 × 4320) and Dell U2711 (at 2560 x 1440)

        OS: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations 64 bit Version 20H2 (Build 19042.928)

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