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  • Windows 7 Beyond 2020 – Extended Security Update Strategy for Users

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     Paul T 2 months, 1 week ago.

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    • #344891 Reply

      john9546
      AskWoody Plus

      Woody Leonhard wrote the article “Seven Semper Fi: How to ride Win7 into the sunset” on March 18, 2019 which gives me some hope to keep my Window 7 Production PC a little longer beyond 2020. However, Woody mentioned in the article “though deep-pocket companies may pay for Extended Security Update for at least three additional years”.

      Here is my idea for those of us wanting some way to access those three years of Windows 7 updates. It is possible for AskWoody members, say 200 – 1000 of us for example to pay into a shared pool of funds as “AskWoody Windows 7 Group” to qualify by Microsoft in some way to pay for and receive the extended updates.
      Since the AskWoody group works so closely with the Microsoft staff as insiders, maybe they can facilitate such a strategy.
      Leveraging our AskWoody membership in this way would be valued and fun too. Just an idea!

      Edit to remove HTML. Please use the “Text” tab in the entry box when you copy/paste.

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    • #344929 Reply

      FakeNinja
      AskWoody Lounger

      Wow, I was literally just going to ask this myself. Firstly, if Microsoft would even allow this, I am pretty sure we would need to buy volume licences for our PCs and then also pay for ESU, all that wouldn’t be cheap. I am not entirely sure how it works though since Microsoft hasn’t given us that much information, I hope Woody or an admin on here reads your post and finds out if it’s actually possible, I would pay for it at least.

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    • #345730 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Plus

      Alternatively, how about Microsoft allowing all of us AskWoody Win7 users to upgrade to Win8.1? I could live with that for a couple of years. Heck, by then Microsoft might have Win10 stable enough such that I am willing to use Win10 in my production environment. Microsoft recently came rather clean on their latest revisions for Win10 telemetry. Clean enough that I am okay with it — provided that Microsoft makes Win10 much more stable and reliable. It appears that Microsoft has given up on trying to outdo Google by trying to turn Windows into a targeted advertising powerhouse? Lately, targeted advertising has been suffering serious setbacks in terms of cost versus revenue.

      On the other hand, I can’t stand Metro. Microsoft, please give us back Windows instead of the flat and archaic 1980s look of Metro! Did MS programmers think that Star Trek LCARS is what consumers wanted? LCARS is as bad as NASA’s Worm logo. At least NASA had enough common sense to switch back to their iconic logo which looks great in 3D. Cell phones have flat interfaces in order to reduce CPU load and battery drain. That doesn’t mean that consumers actually prefer the flat appearance, or want the flat appearance on their computers. Different ecosystems, different requirements, different purposes, different needs.

      Microsoft, you did not and will not break into the cell phone industry anytime soon — unless you give us what we want and garner our support, and until you tear up your old agreements and lock down Windows in UNIX style from most malware. The alternative is that Windows and the security vendors will bite the dust since you all are on the same ship.

      Enough already, as this is turning into a rant.

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      • #346074 Reply

        mn–
        AskWoody Lounger

        … well I just upgraded to 8.1 at home. (Sort of.)

        The KVM/QEMU paravirtualization driver hassle is a lot less with 8.1 than with 10… not like I plan on having the VM running every month or anything like that, but anyway.

    • #345890 Reply

      Paul T
      AskWoody MVP

      As an 8.1 and 10 user I would go straight from 7 to 10 and live with the issues. The learning curve is steep enough going to 8/10 that the only advantage is a small reliability gain in 8 and then you get the next EOL issue again.

      cheers, Paul

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      • #345895 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        True, but the EOL issue is accelerated in Win10. At best you get 30 months — and that’s for 1809, which is an ongoing disaster.

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    • #345894 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      It’s an intriguing idea, but I have a feeling Microsoft’s reaction would be something less civil than “you gotta be kidding.”

      Realize that Microsoft and I are on, uh, less than cordial terms – and have been for decades.

      Still, lemme think about it

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      • #348423 Reply

        FakeNinja
        AskWoody Lounger

        I agree, asking Microsoft for special treatment when it comes to extended Windows 7 support sounds like a joke, but they have said that everyone with a volume licensed PC and a big wallet do have the right to extended support, so I reckon our only chance would be to make Askwoody an organisation of some sorts which would allow us to have volume licences. But again, I’m not completely sure how Microsoft’s volume licensing works so I might just be talking crazy here.

    • #345920 Reply

      anonymous

      had enough of microsofts game with win10, moving to linux

    • #345976 Reply

      Matthew
      AskWoody Plus

      Does anyone know if we will be able to “extend” the life of Win 7 via “fudging” the registry to make Windows Update believe we’re running Windows Embedded POSReady 7 instead (like some of us did with Win XP to make WU believe we were running Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 instead)? Obviously those embedded OSs did/do not contain all of the features of their full-fledged counterparts, so there may have been (and may be) security flaws that the embedded OSs did/do not patch, but some patching is better than none for those of us who want to hang on to what we’ve got.

      • #349354 Reply

        FakeNinja
        AskWoody Lounger

        I asked the same question on this forum a few months ago but some people claimed that it doesn’t work the same way today as it did with XP and POSReady 2009, so apparently you can’t just edit the registry to receive new updates, and it wouldn’t even surprise me if Microsoft does everything they can to prevent this either.

    • #346023 Reply

      Paul T
      AskWoody MVP

      You can extend the life of 7 by continuing to use it, just keep an eye on any security issues that arise – and have up to date AV and backup.

      cheers, Paul

    • #1621111 Reply

      baggins
      AskWoody Lounger

      So…I was going to try to get by with Win 7 64-bit, but I just found out that Intuit tax preparation software I use will not support Win 7 in 2020. I was hoping to retire in 2 years, but this throws a wrench into my time line. I really don’t want to buy a new computer and go through the migration process again. Still using Lotus SmartSuite. Not sure if that will make the jump either. Rats!

    • #1626121 Reply

      Paul T
      AskWoody MVP

      Can you use Intuit online?

      cheers, Paul

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