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      • #2172343 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        Why is the last Windows Defender Antimalware Platform listed under Quality Updates on Feb 27?
        Quality-Updates

        The previous one was listed under Definition Updates on Feb 3?
        List-of-Definition-Updates

          Changes between Feb 3 and Feb 27:

        • Feb 4: moved from Version 1903 to 1909
        • Feb 7: set Feature Update Deferral=365, Quality Update Deferral=0, Group Policy Editor>Automatic Windows Update to #2 – Notify download/install

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      • #2172445 Reply
        Grond
        AskWoody Plus

        If there is a definition file or new version of Defender, it will be listed in your WU upgrade stack.

        Windows 10 Pro x64 v1909 Desktop PC

        • #2172497 Reply
          WCHS
          AskWoody Plus

          If there is a definition file or new version of Defender, it will be listed in your WU upgrade stack.

          I know that.

          My question was: why is platform update listed under Quality Updates on one occasion (02/27/2020) and listed under Definition Updates on another occasion (02/03/2020)?

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      • #2172452 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The Quality Update is a platform update.
        The others are Definition updates.

        • #2172495 Reply
          WCHS
          AskWoody Plus

          If you scroll down to near the bottom of the image “List-of-Definition-Updates.jpg,” you will see that the entry for 02/03/2020 says “Update for Windows Defender Antivirus antimalware platform.” So, a platform update is listed in the list of definition updates.

          However, in the image “Quality-Updates.png” you will see that an entry for 02/27/2020 says “”Update for Windows Defender Antivirus antimalware platform.”

          So, on 02/03/2020 a platform update is listed in the Definition Update list. And on 02/27/2020, a platform update is listed in the Quality Updates list.

          My question is this: why is the platform update listed in the Quality Updates list one time and listed in the Definition Updates list another time?

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      • #2172598 Reply
        JC Zorkoff
        AskWoody Plus

        For what it is worth, I see the same thing on my Win 10 1903 system.

        Platform Update (Version 4.18.2001.10) is listed under Quality Updates

        Platform Update (Version 4.18.2001.7) is listed under Definition Updates

        Maybe Microsoft decided that a Platform update is really a Quality update and moved it.

        Let’s watch where the next Platform update is listed.

         

      • #2172755 Reply
        wavy
        AskWoody Plus

        Karen may I ask how you get the description included in the updates list, mylist on 1909 just has the kb# and install date. That would be a useful feature to have !

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        • #2172818 Reply
          WCHS
          AskWoody Plus

          I have no idea how I get the description, if it’s the link (in blue) that you are referring to. The link takes one to the MS-URL {e.g., https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4537572/kb4537572-cumulative-update-for-net-framework for the second one listed in View Update History>Quality Updates (30) }. I started with Win10/Pro, version 1607 and I am on 1909 now. There’s always been a link to the MS-URL for each update/KB file, no matter the version, and on each of my two laptops.
          Update-History-screen

          Maybe, someone else knows if there’s a setting that produces these links in the View Update History screen.

          You can also find information about the updates for your version by clicking on the link “Learn more” under “Looking for info on the latest updates?” on the right side of the Windows Update screen.
          Latest-updates-learn-more

          This link takes you to learn more and you then look in the left legend of the page entitled “Windows 10 update history” to find a link to your Win10 version, where all of the updates are listed with links to the MS-URL for the update. This is in the section that is headed “In this release”. Only CUs are listed.
          in-this-release

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      • #2175766 Reply
        wavy
        AskWoody Plus

        I think your reply got lost in the jumble for a while 🙁

        This what I see:

        Capture-1

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        • #2175925 Reply
          WCHS
          AskWoody Plus

          I think your reply got lost in the jumble for a while 🙁

          This what I see:

          @wavy: I don’t know who the intended audience is for your post #2175766. But, if it supposed to be me, I have no Update History that looks like that. So, what you see is not from me 🙁

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          • #2175964 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            He is showing you that he does not have the links to the Support pages like you have under the Quality updates list. In fact, I don’t either on my Win10.

            He wanted to know what settings allowed you to see those links.

            • #2175966 Reply
              jabeattyauditor
              AskWoody Lounger

              So neither you nor wavy can click on the blue text in your update history page?

              Like KYKaren, my list is clickable and launches the support articles.

              1909, was 1903, was Windows 7 Pro.

              • #2175980 Reply
                WCHS
                AskWoody Plus

                I think wavy’s Update History KB line is clickable (i.e., it’s a link like mine is). It just doesn’t have as much information in it as the Update History KB line that I have (or that DriftyDonN has).

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            • #2175974 Reply
              WCHS
              AskWoody Plus

              OK. I get it now.

              So, now I know what @wavy‘s Update History formatting looks like and yes, it’s different from mine. Prior to this, I thought everyone’s Update History was formatted the same as mine is.

              I have no idea why my Update History formatting is this way. It’s always been that way since 2016 with my older Win10 and it’s been that way since 2019 with my newer Win10; in other words, it just comes that way. 🙂

              I noticed that @DriftyDonN (should have a capital N at the end; I see it in Visual and in Text, but it doesn’t post with a capital N) has the same formatting as I do (except he uses Dark Mode). See another example of this Windows Update formatting.

              I’ve looked around to see if there are any settings for WU formatting, but I haven’t found any. Maybe, you could figure out how to get that kind of formatting?? I certainly don’t have any idea.

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              • #2176002 Reply
                WCHS
                AskWoody Plus

                Maybe, you could figure out how to get that kind of formatting??

                Just to be clear, my answer was to @PKCano.

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          • #2175981 Reply
            wavy
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            Karen
            That is what I see, different than what you see, the question is what is the difference that makes the difference!

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            • #2175984 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Did you make the Window full screen? That may be the difference. I didn’t try that.
              I hardly ever use full screen.

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              • #2176001 Reply
                WCHS
                AskWoody Plus

                same-same for me, full screen or not. So, here’s another mystery to solve 🙂

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              • #2176516 Reply
                wavy
                AskWoody Plus

                Me too. Same Maximised or Windowed. Maybe some reggie settings or GPO changes. Not a big deal just another mystery 😉 Things always seem different in my vicinity 😵

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            • #2176308 Reply
              Volume Z
              AskWoody Lounger

              The description turns generic when an update gets installed manually.

              Generic

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              • #2176519 Reply
                wavy
                AskWoody Plus

                The description turns generic when an update gets installed manually.

                Generic

                Thats it !!! My Definition and ‘Other’ updates display with the added info.

                One less mystery, still plenty to go 🙂

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                • This reply was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by wavy.
      • #2176064 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        more-info
        takes you:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4529964/windows-10-update-history?ocid=update_setting_client

        update-info

        Different look but same destination! Windows is famous for doing the same thing 9 different ways! Why? The Shadow knows….

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        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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      • #2176069 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        Well what do you know! Full page gets you more info!!!

        BUT NOT ON UPDATE HISTORY PAGE Boy am I tired……….

        Settings-updates-FULL-PAGE

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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      • #2176344 Reply
        WCHS
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks, Volume Z (I remember you from the days of the spinning-forever-Vista-update-screen and your monthly notices on what KB file needed to be manually downloaded to get updating to work again)

        Well, I think this off-topic question is resolved … anyone disagree??

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