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    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Questions: Win10 Windows Defender, Windows firewall, and McAfee LiveSafe

    This topic contains 12 replies, has 8 voices, and was last updated by  Paul T 2 months ago.

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    • #1745328 Reply

      CWBillow
      AskWoody Plus

      When I (just) got my HP laptop, it came with LiveSafe via HP.聽 But of course Windows 10 comes along with firewall and Windows Defender.

      So now, do I keep both running, and, assuming that I should not, any opinions as to the overall effectiveness of one over the other?

      Chuck Billow

    • #1746536 Reply

      Rick Corbett
      AskWoody_MVP

      The McAfee LiveSafe installed on your new HP laptop is just a 30-day, 180-day or 1 year *trial* version (albeit full-featured).

      After the trial ends McAfee hopes you are sufficiently hooked into using it (or dependent on it) to pay a subscription fee to continue using it. See this HP page for more info.

      It’s your decision if you want to add another protection service into your mix.

      (I’ve been using Windows 10 since it came out using just Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium without a single problem. It’s been years since I bought a new laptop but the very first thing I would do is carry out a clean install of Windows 10 to get rid of any OEM bloatware [then take a backup] … but that’s just me.)

      Hope this helps…

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    • #1746550 Reply

      Vincenzo
      AskWoody Lounger

      I personally don’t like McAfee, seen too many computers where it slows them down. But I do have a current happy customer using Mcafee. I Agree with with Rick, Win Defender works well, has gotten very good ratings in the reviews lately. I enable it on computers now where I used to always install Norton, (which has become troublesome in my experience).

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      • #1746557 Reply

        Rick Corbett
        AskWoody_MVP

        I didn’t want to add my own personal views about McAfee products – or any other AV provider – because over the years I’ve encountered some real stinkers. 馃檪

        It’s a balance between impact on performance and protection, which is how testing organisations like av-comparatives.org evaluate competitive products submitted for testing. Unfortunately, its Performance Test April 2019 shows Microsoft did quite poorly. On a happier note, its Malware Protection Test March 2019 shows Microsoft was amongst the best 5 rated products , whilst McAfee came in amongst the 2nd-best, due primarily to false positives (like several other well-known AV providers).

        EDIT: Ha! I’ve just seen the latest AskWoody Plus Newsletter where this exact same subject is discussed! 馃檪

      • #1746758 Reply

        CWBillow
        AskWoody Plus

        I have previously used BitDefender, which I in fact have an active license for now.聽 I’ve had pretty decent luck with it, while with ‘Defender’ I’ve had a couple of nasties sneak by on me.聽 I would normally just stay with BD, except that McAfee came with my new laptop, and touts recommended by HP, so I thought I’d ask around.聽 I have a few weeks left on the free trial to see how it does.

        Chuck Billow

        • #1746771 Reply

          joep517
          AskWoody MVP

          If you have had good results with BD stick with it. Why spend more $$$ on something else?

          --Joe

    • #1746687 Reply

      Charlie
      AskWoody Plus

      I’m assuming you must have the Win 10 version of Windows Defender?聽 Can the newest version of Windows Defender be installed on Win 8, 8.1, and 7 or does it only work with Win 10?

      Win 7 Home Premium, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Groups B & L

      • #1746691 Reply

        joep517
        AskWoody MVP

        Windows 10 Windows Defender is for Windows 10 only. You can not download it and install on prior versions of Windows. Periodically, Microsoft has released updates to the scanning engine on earlier versions of Windows.

        --Joe

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    • #1747523 Reply

      CWBillow
      AskWoody Plus

      If you have had good results with BD stick with it. Why spend more $$$ on something else?

      Joe, I think you’re right.聽 On the one hand, MS wouldn’t have “suggested” it if it weren’t reasonable, but then, so is BD.

      Chuck Billow

    • #1846362 Reply

      Molli10
      AskWoody Plus

      A couple of days ago I turned on my computer and was informed by Widows Defender that it had run a scan and that threats were found but there was no need for immediate action. If there was ‘no need for immediate action’, then why refer to what was found as ‘threats’?? Any other antivirus would have quarantined those threats or at least dealt with them immediately as anivirus apps are supposed to do. As what I call my backup antivirus app had decided (previous to this incident) to stop doing its job, I had uninstalled it, then tried to reinstall but for some obscure reason it could not activate. Now I do not feel secure online and think I should try to install another antivirus app- but which one? Someone mentioned Mcafee Live Safe. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

      Molli10

      • #1846421 Reply

        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        What is your operating system?

        Group G{ot backup} TestBeta
        Win7Pro路x64路SP1路Windows Firewall路i3-3220路Microsoft Security Essentials路HDD
        • #1846435 Reply

          Molli10
          AskWoody Plus

          Windows 10 Home version 1809.

          Molli10

    • #1847344 Reply

      Paul T
      AskWoody MVP

      AV programs like to tell you how they are protecting you, so it’s not surprising to see these messages.
      I open the AV and check the logs to see if it’s advertising or a real issue.

      cheers, Paul

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