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        alphacharlie
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        I decided to pay attention to Defcon 3 today 4-April-2020.  I am offered the following updates:

        1. 2020-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4551762)
        2. Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830)
        3. Update for Windows Defender Antivirus antimalware platform – KB4052623 (Version 4.18.2001.10)
        4. 2020-02 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 (KB4537572)
        5. Intel Corporation driver update for Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation – WDDM 1.1)

        I think that items 1-4 are OK to install.  I am trying to figure out item 5.

        This computer is an old but trusty Thinkpad T61 working fine with W10 Pro 1909.  It does not go on the road any more, and is used as a desktop PC, driving an external Dell U2410 monitor in portrait mode at 1200 x 1920 screen resolution.

        I figured out that WDDM stands for Windows Display Driver Model, so it must have something to do with my display.  According to Wikipedia, WDDM 1.0 came with Vista, then WDDM 1.1 came with Windows 7 (which was the OS on this machine until a very recent switch to Win10).  The most current version of WDDM is 2.7.

        If I look in my  Device Manager, Display Adapters, it shows “Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family” and a right click, followed by Properties reveals that the Driver Provider is Intel, the Driver Date is 9/23/2009, the Driver Version is 8.15.10.1930, and the Digital Signer is “Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher”.

        As for the monitor, its driver came from Dell, dated 3/1/2010, version 3.0.0.0

        So for now, I am going to try following PKCano’s procedure in AKB2000013 to HIDE the intel driver update, and let the other items 1-4 do their thing.  I’ll report on the consequences in the thread called “MS-DEFCON 3: Get the March 2020 patches installed”

        If anyone would explain about WDDM and if I have any reason to mess with it, I would like to learn.

        Thank you.

      • #2223514 Reply
        b
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        What does Lenovo System Update recommend?

        Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (Pioneer/Chump)

      • #2223524 Reply
        Alex5723
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        What does Lenovo System Update recommend?

        Lenovo is not to be trusted with drivers. They are always months behind updating drivers.
        I block drivers updates in Windows and always download from hardware OEM (Lenovo laptops customer for years).

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          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          That seems to be a contradictory statement?

          cheers, Paul

      • #2223701 Reply
        steeviebops
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        Intel never supported anything older than HD Graphics (1st gen Core i3/i5) on Windows 8 or later. In fact, they went out of their way to block installation of some of their Windows 7 drivers for the 965 and G30/G40 series on Windows 8 by adding a blank section to the INF. The driver you’re being offered is a very basic Windows 7 driver with no OpenGL support or anything so I’d definitely avoid it if everything is working fine.

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        Alex5723
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        contradictory statement

        What is contradictory in the statement ?

        I like and use Lenovo hardware but I never download drivers from Lenovo support site.

        • #2223707 Reply
          Paul T
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          You won’t let Windows install drivers and won’t use Lenovo, so where do you get the drivers?

          cheers, Paul

      • #2223710 Reply
        Alex5723
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        You won’t let Windows install drivers and won’t use Lenovo, so where do you get the drivers?

        cheers, Paul

        As I wrote I get them from the OEM : Intel, Nvidia (both updated regularly), Realtek, WD…

        The only Lenovo update I do install is BIOS update.

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        alphacharlie
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        What does Lenovo System Update recommend?

        Lenovo system update actually still runs on the T61 with Win10, finds no updates, which is not a surprise on a Thinkpad this old.

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