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[Average-Jane]

I believe the site owner let the domain expire.  I’m not sure of the reason.

I also vaguely recall there being an archive link to the website.  Will look around and see if I can find it.

EDIT: Here’s something relevant: What Happened to Linux Journey? | Hacker News (ycombinator.com)

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Charlie

I sincerely hope that this last workaround is left in place by Microsoft, one last crumb of sanity.  If they did take it away, they’d probably replace it with infinite tries until you input an actual account and password.  And then, after that, they’d remove the option to revert to local after you create the desired account.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned for someone who’s not yet thirty, but forcing internet connection before the computer is fully set up seems very cart-before-horse.

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I’m not totally against EVs, but I’ll be the last adopter.  Everyone else can suffer the growing pains in my place!

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Charlie

Sorry for the late reply, busy week and I just updated three of the four laptops I’m “responsible” for.

On all four, the Device Encryption value is “Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security”.

No problems on the three I’ve already updated, don’t anticipate a problem on this last one either.

And that’s wonderful for you.  Those advantages do not appeal to me and others, so I resent being funneled through such a process.

Yes, after the event.  I can only speak for myself, but I’d prefer “the event” not happen.

Apple macs and Chromebooks both allow accounts to be created without logging in.  They are limited experiences, but they allow it.  Microsoft is enforcing this mostly because people won’t know or care to revert back, and they want everyone on Microsoft accounts presumably for their own good, but also because they collect richer data.

Nowadays, I would be more suspicious of the possibility that linking any Microsoft account marks a device in some way that even reverting to local account or deleting the original account from a device entirely, can’t remove.  Surveillance, after all, is only getting more granular and more invasive.  “For our own good”, of course.

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[Average-Jane]

This time I clicked on the post number I wanted to reply to before selecting Reply to that post.  Let’s see if that gets this reply to the proper place.

EDIT: …. Apparently not.  I have no more ideas.

The mixed messages is the reason for my initial question.  I was pretty confident that as a Home user I had nothing to worry about, but scattered reports of Home users being hosed had my anxiety poke its head up.  Given that this came up in the August updates, and I always set my computers to do the previous month’s updates the weekend before the next Patch Tuesday, I can only hope that Microsoft has ironed out the kinks in the KB culprit by this time.

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[Average-Jane]

@Bob99

Windows 10 Home, 21H1, build 19043.1826

EDIT: Refreshed the browser I was using and still encountering this problem with replying to the correct post.

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[Average-Jane]

I ordered the laptop online, so it was ready for pickup when I went in to the store.  I have no real way of knowing if it was a display unit or how many hands it passed through.  Given the total of information, and that Bitlocker appears to be not running, I guess I just have to prepare a backup before the next update, and hope for the best.

(Pretty please let this post as a reply this time…)

EDIT: I am hitting Reply to the proper post that I want to reply to.  I am not sure why my recent replies have all been directed one parent up from where they should be.  Maybe Edge needs updating…)

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[Average-Jane]

Hopefully this shows up as a reply this time.

EDIT: I made very certain to click reply.  I’m not sure why it created a new thread.

I was able to find it using the Services trick.  It is also set to manual trigger start, and not currently listed as running.  However it’s also not listed as disabled.  Currently I have the option to “start” the service on the left-hand pane, but I’m leaving that alone.

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Basically that option wasn’t visible for me, but I don’t think a laptop sold to an individual consumer at a big box store should be subject to group policy.  Of course, given what we’re talking about, Stuff still manages to Happen all the time at Microsoft.

I checked the Settings app, and there was no “device encryption” option under system and security, and searching the Settings app for either “encryption” or “bitlocker” returned nothing.

I checked the Control Panel app, and again, searches for “encryption” and “bitlocker” showed nothing.

I logged on to my Microsoft account in a private browser tab, and it says I have no devices registered, so there’s no way to access any bitlocker recovery key if Microsoft is holding one.

I think I have to assume that this won’t be an issue for my laptop, but before I install August updates next weekend there will definitely be making and testing of data backups.  Such a pain that everyone else but Microsoft pays for Microsoft’s mistakes.

Are there any informative news articles on what’s happening?  Most of my search results are Microsoft help pages.  Concerned mainly about the scope.  My HP laptop was installed (pre-pandemic, if that matters) with a Microsoft account on Windows 10 Home S mode, which was then taken out of S mode and the account was reverted to local.  Don’t want to find out I somehow got encrypted without knowing and then my laptop becomes a paperweight.

They also want everyone on Win11 Pro to use a Microsoft account, given 22H2’s onerous requirements.

Still, sad day, that this is required just to set up an account the way you want.