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When the SSU gets installed first, would it be listed in the Windows Update log?  I did not see it (KB4553252) in the Windows Update log.

And another related question – Is there a way to invoke the get-WindowsUpdateLog cmdlet outside of Power Shell?

I was under the impression (from reading the AskWoody posts) that the SSU had to be installed by itself; it would not appear if there were other updates whose installation was pending.  I wondered why this was necessary, as, from my Windows 7 experience, the SSU update did not require a reboot; MS could have had logic to install any SSU update first when there were a number of pending updates.

I am still running Win 10 1909 in a test mode.  I reboot Win 7 into 10 about once a week to install software and run tests.  Windows auto-installed KB4549951 on Win10 Pro 1909, no problems yet.  I did not do much after the install and reboot except to check for other updates and run a backup.  I expected to see KB4553252, the Servicing Stack Update, but I did not. Why?

The only strange thing happened during the reboot.  Before the reboot, Windows told me not to power-off , as it was post-processing the updates.  Then it rebooted, and it got stuck in the “Restarting…” state with the five-dot circular “icon”.  After 60 minutes of waiting, I hit the reset button, and the machine booted fine, did more post-install, and then provided me with the login screen.

Why hide MSRT?  All it does, as far as I know, is replace \Windows\system32\mrt.exe and run it.  MRT is a tool that does a quick scan for malware (Malware Removal Tool).  I always install MRT as soon as I see it on Patch Tuesday.  I once tried to run it manually, and it had a problem.  The response on one of the computer fora was, “Don’t worry”.  MRT has never found a problem when I have run it.

Another related issue – My weekly full MSE scan on Windows 7 last weekend had, in the MSE window where I was monitoring its progress, a yellow triangle with a message that some malware may have been found.  But when the scan finished, there was no notice of any malware having been found and quarantined.  I did not check for any MSE logs.

 

I have a quick question.  I have installed Windows 10 1909 in a new partition; Windows 7 is still my preferred system for a few more weeks.  On March 24, I installed (or technically Windows Update automatically installed) KB4551762.  I have read that this patch has been re-issued.  How do I know if I have the latest version installed?  Do I need to worry/care?  If I do not have the latest version, will Windows Update know and tell me what else I need to install the next time I check?  I see this as a problem with MS’s re-user of patch numbers.  Thanks.

I posted anonymously in Mar 04 11:08 because I forgot to login. I successfully installed Windows 10 on a partition of a new disk. I used the instructions at https://www.howtogeek.com/197647/how-to-dual-boot-windows-10-with-windows-7-or-8/ . I disconnected the Internet cable during the install, and then I re-connected to run Windows Update. It brought me to level 1909 with the 2020-02 cumulative patches installed. The only problem I had is that the procedure, for some unknown reason, did not set up dual-boot. So I had to do some Google searches to find the bcdedit utility. There were sites that had the command syntax, but I did not find any with the actual commands. So I tried and did not succeed. Then I printed the configuration (as a test of my printer), and I saw that there were another place where I had not changed the drive letter. After I made that change, I was able to dual-boot.

bcdedit /copy             [produced new entry {…}]
bcdedit /set {…} device partition=Q:
bcdedit /set {…} description Windows 7
bcdedit /set {…} osdevice partition=Q:

Will there a problem because my local Windows 10 login is not associated with a MS account?  I use OneDrive ONLY to send a handful of files to MS and others (as I do with Dropbox).  I do not want to store my files in the cloud.

I am confused by the replies. What I do in Win 7 is to allow MSE updates to install without my interaction. For the monthly patches, I normally install MRT as soon as it is available, and I do not install the monthly Win 7 security or .NET updates until Woody gives the “all-clear”.

From what I read above, I do not have an option of which monthly patches to install; I either install all or none. I am confused about updates that add new features – are these part of monthly security updates? If I decide to postpone a new feature update, will that also postpone the security updates?

About the “free” upgrade – is that an upgrade install or a fresh install? I want a fresh install of Win 10 to keep my existing Win 7 as a dual boot.

Thanks.

Here is an update on my Windows 7 system.  This morning I wanted to install the SSU patch, as someone above reported that it was safe to install.  Windows Update no longer had the SSU update displayed, but it did have the Win 7 and .NET patches that had failed earlier in the week.  It also had MSE pattern 1.307.2452.0, which had been installed at 12:30 yesterday.  I have seen frequently that Windows Update wants me to install an MSE pattern update that already been installed.  I have no idea if the second patch is an update to the first patch.  I assume not, as if a bad MSE pattern patch were to be released, it would be fixed in the next pattern update,

I guess that I will not be able to install the SSU update until I have installed the two January patches.

One other item – MRT.  What does this patch do besides replacing \windows\system32\mrt.exe and running it?  When I run Windows Update, I get the message “creating a restore point”, and sometimes this message is frequently not changed when the actual patch installs.  So I never know exactly when the patch is being installed.  The MRT patch took about 1.5 hours from the time I selected it to the time it finished.  I did not time this, as I was doing other things while the patch was being installed.  I did look at the Task Manager a few times while the “restore point” message was being displayed, and mrt.exe had not yet started.  So, I believe that the unneccessary restore point creation took over an hour.

Windows 7 January patches: KB4535102  .NET
KB4534310  Win 7

I had not installed them Tuesday (I only installed MRT).  This morning I powered down to install a new SSD disk on which I will install Win 10.  But Windows Update had these two checked, so they auto-installed prior to the power down.  Then I rebooted in safe mode to check to see if the SSD was OK, and Windows did its normal “chkdsk c:” and other things (because it took more than 12 minutes).  But in safe mode Windows does not tell me what it is doing, as it displays the driver names that it has loaded before safe mode starts.  Then I rebooted into regular mode.  I checked the EventVwr, and it showed that the two patches had been installed, and a reboot was required.  Then I saw that the two patches had failed with code 80070643.  Widows update now shows me only KB4536952 2020-01 Servicing Stack Update Win 7.  I have no idea what that 80070643 error code means.  I looked at one thread (via Google), and it was obvious that all the “those knowledgeable” who were responding had no idea what the error code signified.  Would I get that error code if my reboot after the patch installation was not a reboot into full Windows 7?  Many years ago I would patch Win 7, then reboot into XP to patch, and then reboot into Win 7; back then the Win 7 patches would not complete installation because I had rebooted into XP.

I know that I will not see the two failed patches again (if indeed they did not install) until I install the SSU update.  Is the SSU update safe, or is it too soon to know if the SSU patch is OK to install?

 

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I dd see the SSU update by itself when I checked Windows Update.  I did install it.  After the installation, I again ran EventVwr, and it worked fine.  I cannot conclude that the SSU update fixed the EventVwr problem, as I assume that the SSU update pertains to the Windows Update process.

The patch KB4523206  was never offered via Windows Update, and I almost never go searching for patches.  Also, I have no idea if that patch was included in a subsequent cumulative patch.

I installed Win 7 November patch KB4525235 this morning.  After the reboot, EventVwr no longer works because the MMC plug-in crashes.  I do not know anything about the internals of the Event Viewer, so I have no idea why the MMC plug-in is required nor do I know what it does.  It appears that the Event Viewer will not work without the MMC plug-in.  I have no proof, but I have to assume that something in the November patch broke the MMC.  I have a list of changed files that were backed up during my incremental backup, but I do not know the filename(s) associated with the Event Viewer.

My complaint was that the hexadecimal error codes were NOT documented.  You proved my point by pointing me to two Windows Update URLs, and neither contains the Windows Update error code that I received.  I rest my case.

I have to assume that these error codes are chosen “out of the blue” at random by the code developers,  I think that there must be a central MS error code repository, and the contents of that repository need to be placed on a web site.

 

I looked at the first two Windows Update error codes hyperlinks, and NEITHER has the 800B0109 code that I received.  The third hyperlink pertains to Windows 10, which I am not yet running.

I have some questions and comments about the Windows 7  MSRT patch.  I, too, could not get it to install on my 32-bit system. – 800B0109.  I went to the MS Catalog, as per a reply above, and I saw two files I could download.  One had “delta” in its name, and the other did not.  What is the difference between the two?  I downloaded and ran the non-delta executable.  It ran without problems.  A number of years ago I ran mrt.exe manually, but it had an error; one site I visited said, essentially, do not worry about it.

As for these 8-hexadecimal digit error codes – Are the codes common across the MS software platforms? Does this code from WU have the same reason as the same code produced by another piece of MS code?  A search for that error code pointed to one article about a patch not signed properly, but another pointed to a “fix Windows Update” URL.  When I started with IBM mainframes in 1967, IBM had a manual “Messages and Codes” which explained all of the error codes produced by the mainframe operating system.  Instead of a WU “Get help for this error” hyperlink, why can’t MS produce a web page that has all of these error codes with a detailed explanation?