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gkarasik wrote:

Yes, just echoing Geo above–wassup w/kb3003057, which I’m being offered today on my test machine (Win7/32bit/Ent/SP1/fully patched)? I installed all patches offered yesterday (no problems so far after a pretty good workout). This morning there’s a taskbar bang telling me “New updates are available,” and KB3003057 (Cumulative Update IE11 blah blah blah) is the offering. It installs without requiring a reboot, leading me to wonder whether it’s just another cataloging mistake. Any insight?

Followup: Although I ran WinUp immediately after installing KB3003057, and it showed clean, half-an-hour later KB2987107 has shown up. Also installed without needing a restart. Anyone else old enough to remember Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland? “Hey, kids, let’s start a software company! We can call it ‘Microsoft’!”

GaryK

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SueW, woody

Yes, just echoing Geo above–wassup w/kb3003057, which I’m being offered today on my test machine (Win7/32bit/Ent/SP1/fully patched)? I installed all patches offered yesterday (no problems so far after a pretty good workout). This morning  there’s a taskbar bang telling me “New updates are available,” and KB3003057 (Cumulative Update IE11 blah blah blah) is the offering. It installs without requiring a reboot, leading me to wonder whether it’s just another cataloging mistake. Any insight?

GaryK

PKCano wrote:

Patch Tues is tomorrow. MS usually releases the the patches around 10:00am PDT on Tues.

Oh jeez–today is Monday. Doh!

GaryK

Is this Patch Tuesday? Because I just checked my Win7 box, and it’s telling me there are no updates available. Then I checked a Win10 box, and it says the same thing. Anybody know anything?

 

GaryK

This discussion has a “How many angels can dance on the head of a pin” quality. I have for years routinely hidden update offerings. For instance, even though the hardware is long gone, I’ll occasionally get an HP printer or Dell monitor update offering because some old driver is hiding somewhere. Because the hardware is gone, the update fails, so I hide it. Eventually, except for “Windows 7 Language Packs,” these and all other update offerings disappear from “Restore hidden updates.” After years of this, at this moment the only entries in my “Restore hidden updates” record are for the “April, 2017 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 (KB4015552)” and about half a TB of “Windows 7 Language Packs.” (It’s unlikely I’ll ever need to do anything in Lithuanian.) If the past is prologue, the “April, 2017  Preview” will disappear as well. Might this theoretically cause some problem with Windows Update in the future? There go those angels again.

As an aside, I still get a chuckle over the very idea of installing a beta–oops, monthly rollup preview of an MS security update. Makes me laugh every time I think about it. Thanks, Microsoft!

GaryK

 

GaryK

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Noel Carboni wrote:

Heh heh. Microsoft might say, in return, that savvy users who allow them to install what they want ASAP get their “issues” (i.e., bugs) fixed first (without actually saying the word “bugs” or acknowledging that they could possibly be creating new ones). No one is going to sue Microsoft or do any damage to them in any way for fixing their problems that they built into software you bought so long ago. They’ll be given medals and accolades. FYI, I installed the preview update on a test Windows 8.1 VM then tested it for a little while. Lo and behold they didn’t break anything that I could find. -Noel

Well, I don’t actually believe anyone’s going to sue MS over this; that’s just wishful thinking. Still, to quote Fats Waller, “One never knows, do one?”

Actually I’m grateful that you beta-test MS’s patches, but keep your fingers crossed: Problems, and new issues, don’t always show up right away.

More significant, at least by my lights: The evident relief you feel at having dodged a bullet. We shouldn’t have to hold our collective breath after installing MS-published patches, hoping that they don’t trash our systems.

 

GaryK

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SueW, Noel Carboni

Microsoft is cynical and irresponsible in releasing these “previews.” Given MS’s track record publishing flawed patches, no knowledgeable user would knowingly install these previews (even calling them “previews” is cynical) and be a voluntary MS beta tester. That leaves non-knowledgeable people who will unwittingly download and run these patches and as a result ruin their PCs. Meanwhile MS sits back and waits for the anguished cries of unsuspecting amateurs, then decides whether to adjust, pull, or leave these patches in the pipeline. This is behavior that crosses the line into indecency. Maybe the European Union will sue them.

GaryK

b wrote:

Most users (home and business) never upgrade to a new version of Windows, they just get one with a new computer. Windows 10 is not perfect or flawless (just better than 7/8).

I haven’t yet upgraded any of my clients because as an IT professional I object to being forced to accept updates and patches that negatively impact my clients’ productivity–updates and patches that MS publishes on a regular basis–so I haven’t yet examined Win 10’s features. Please will you take a moment to tell me what features you think make Win 10 better? Please do keep in mind that feature a gamer or home user might find useful might not work as well in a business environment.

GaryK

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Elly, Noel Carboni

Apologies if this has been covered and I missed it: What are the implications for Office updates if Windows Updates is completely blocked?

GaryK

GaryK

PhotM wrote:

gkarasik wrote:

I see on WinUp that MS is offering “March, 2017 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 (KB4012218)” Just more proof, if you needed it, that MS has a sense of humor.

What ever it is you’re talking about or referring to. We already know that there are problems, there are several Posts with LINKS that have Threads about all of them????

You need a link to Windows Update?

GaryK

 

GaryK

PhotM wrote:

LINKS are extremely helpful……

Sorry–not sure to what you’re referring. Links to what?

GaryK

anonymous wrote:

The answer to defective updates was provided by Lord Acton, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Within “Windows-Land” MicroRipoff is absolute power and its decision makers long ago lost interest in protecting Windows users. This patch is merely another example of indifference to customer safety. Question is, is MR to blame, or is customer silence to blame?

Thanks to Woody, there’s a bit less customer silence.

GaryK

Had occasion today to run MicUp on a Win7/Ent machine, and KB3178690 is still being offered, but it is unchecked by default where the other Office 2010 updates are checked by default. So even though MS know this is a bad update, instead of pulling it, they have left it available but diminished its importance. I find that baffling.

GaryK

What with all the invasive snooping, we should be calling it Windows Tentacle.

Those of you who haven’t yet updated to Windows 10,

Take the Pledge:

I solemnly swear that neither I nor my immediate family nor any of my clients will update to Windows 10 until Microsoft allows me to manually select which updates and patches I want to install on my computer.

GaryK

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