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    • in reply to: 2000013: How to clear the Windows Update queue in Win10 #2140377

      KYKaren
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      This 2nd question is more along the lines of when to clear the Windows Update queue in Win10, rather than how.

      In my short experience with this, I noticed once that there were two notifications on the Windows Update screen at the same time, but only one “Download” button The first update listed was a Defender update and the second one was MSRT, which I had unhidden earlier But, as I say there was only one “Download” button. When I clicked on it, the first one (the Defender update) disappeared from the list; I checked Update History and it was listed there as having been installed. And now there was the MSRT update listed by itself and still the “Download” button. So, I clicked on the “Download” button again and the MSRT was no longer listed. I then checked Update History and IT was listed there as having been installed.
      i) So, is this true — that you will sometimes have more than one update listed and only one “Download” button? In this case, the first click on “Download” button will download the first update listed and the second click on the “Download” button will download the 2nd update listed, and so on? Or is this a special case, because one of the updates was a Defender update?

      ii) and is this true — if I want to download the 2nd one, but not the first, I will have to use the directions in AKB2000013 to remove the 1st one, so that when I click on the “Download” button, I will be downloading and installing only the 2nd one that was listed?

      iii) could it ever happen that if I had two or more updates listed on the Windows Update screen and I clicked on the one “Download” button, all three would be downloaded and installed one after the other, with no further intervention on my part (i.e. no “Download” button to click on a 2nd time or a 3rd time)?

      And if for some reason, I wanted to have control over the sequence, I would have to use AK2000013 to remove the two that I didn’t want to download and install so that the remaining one would be the one to go first, then wait for Windows Update to add the other two, then use AK2000013 to remove the one that I didn’t want to go 2nd, then wait for Windows Update to add the 3rd one, which would go last?

      I had expected that each update would have its own “Download” button, but this seems not to be the case.

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    • in reply to: 2000013: How to clear the Windows Update queue in Win10 #2140279

      KYKaren
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      I’ve read the post by @cyclical01 here

      I, too, do best when following checklists.

      I’ve read “The Guide for Windows Update Settings for Windows 10”, and am asking about the section “These are the settings I use”,
      The steps come in this order:
      1) set the deferrals and
      2) set the Group Policy Editor>Automatic Windows Update to #2.

      The next step is where I have a question: It’s about the order of things that come next.
      a) Do you always first follow directions in ABK2000013, which includes wushowhide?
      OR
      b) Do you first use wushowhide by itself, and THEN IF the ones you think you have hidden still appear in the queue, you use the directions in ABK2000013, which include using wushowhide again?

      Having switched from my Win7 device to Win10 exclusively last month, I’ve started using the steps in “The Guide” only three weeks ago for my two 1909 devices, and I have only become familiar with using wushowhide about two weeks ago. I just realized recently that there is an AKB2000013, too. I have hidden two of the three Feb 11 Patch Tuesday updates (first hiding, but later unhiding the 3rd one, the MSRT update). I haven’t seen anything in the queue that was supposed to have been hidden but shows up anyway, but maybe I’ve just been lucky, not having known about the steps in AKB2000013.

      I think I could better construct my checklist and the order of things, if I knew the answer to my question above.

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    • in reply to: How do you get ragged edges in your images #2153681

      KYKaren
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      Thanks for recommending this. It is a very versatile utility. I’ve looked at the tutorial, especially the section on making edges and I don’t see a way to make them in the middle as in ragged edges in the middle

      I supposed one could make the upper part of an image with a ragged edge at the bottom, make the lower part of the image with a ragged edge at the top, and then “glue” them together into one image, but that seems to be the long way to go about it.

      I wonder if there’s a utility that will excise the middle of an image and replace the excision with ragged edges at the bottom and top, all in one fell swoop?

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    • in reply to: February 2020 Patch Tuesday foibles #2153249

      KYKaren
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      so I could safely download and install the other three patches.

      And you downloaded the February patches, although MS-DEFCON is still 2??

      Or does the version a device is running make a difference? I ask because my devices are running 1909, but still hidden are the Feb CU, which for 1909 is KB4532693, and Flash, which for 1909 is KB4537759. (But installed are the February .NET and MSRT)

      For mine also: Group Policy Editor>Automatic Window Updates = #2 Notify download/install

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    • in reply to: February 2020 Patch Tuesday foibles #2141746

      KYKaren
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      Hey, I am 100% with you. It’s been a hard road converting from Win7 to Win10. Like you, I thought PAUSE would do the trick, but I, too, was down the chute before I knew what I was doing, jettisoned into v 1909.

      Once you get the hang of PKCano’s steps at AKB2000016 and at AKB2000013, you will have greater control over Window Updates. He will help you out, if you get lost in working through them. You will end up with more control, even better than you get in Win7.

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    • in reply to: Defanging 1903 and 1909 #2140614

      KYKaren
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      insider = inside the AskWoody circle — I’m still learning, trying to figure Win10 out.

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    • in reply to: Defanging 1903 and 1909 #2140599

      KYKaren
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      Prior to your note here, I have been reading the posts that say “DO not click on ‘CHECK for updates’ You will be sorry if you do, because ‘check’ does not mean ‘check’; it means download/install” without realizing that this admonition does not take changes in 1903/1909 into account.

      Thanks for explaining this for me. I will read up on @kirsty‘s recommendation.

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    • in reply to: 2000013: How to clear the Windows Update queue in Win10 #2140564

      KYKaren
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      clarification:
      so it could happen that if three updates were listed on the WU screen and the user clicked on the “Download” button, all three of them would download/install one after the other without any more action from the user (in other words, not one by one with a “Download” button after each download/install)?

      conditions:
      Version 1909, Feature update deferral=365, Quality update deferral=0, Group Policy Editor>Automati Windows Update=#2-Notify download/install.

      P.S.
      I know you have told me “just follow instructions” and not overthink it, but my wariness is due to the fact that one time I ‘thought’ I was following instructions, but it didn’t work like I thought I understood they would work, and so I got 1909 before I wanted it.

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    • in reply to: 2000013: How to clear the Windows Update queue in Win10 #2140375

      KYKaren
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      I have two questions now. Here’s the first one (the second one will be in another reply):

      What does “look at the queue” mean? I would like to know operationally — It could mean “look at what Windows Update lists on the Windows Update screen” or it could mean “open wushowhide and see what is listed when you choose ‘Hide updates’ because what is listed there is what is waiting” Or maybe, “look in the queue” could mean either of those — i.e., same same.

      I have been using the 2nd course of action, i.e., not opening Windows Update, but instead opening wushowhide to see what’s waiting and then deciding what, if any, to hide. It seems to work as I expected, but maybe that’s just luck.

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    • in reply to: February 2020 Patch Tuesday foibles #2139672

      KYKaren
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      Windows will not hide the selected updates until it runs again on its schedule, usually the next day.

      Are you sure about this? When I use wushowhide to hide selected updates, it hides updates that had been heretofore already in the queue. I can then go back and initiate wushowhide again and it will show me the updates that are now hidden. So, this leads me to believe that they are hidden, BEFORE Windows Updates runs again on its schedule (which I have learned is 22 hours after the last time WU checked on its own).

      Or is this a list of updates that wushowhide plans to hide after WU runs again?

      I do know, though, that unhidden updates will not appear in the queue until WU runs again on its schedule. In other words, wushowhide had hidden them in order that they won’t appear (with a “Download” button, since the Group Policy Editor’s setting for Automatic Windows Updates is #2 “Notify download/install”) and unhiding them won’t make them appear on the Windows Update screen (with a “Download”button) until the next time WU checks on its own.

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    • in reply to: When does Windows Update check for updates? #2139654

      KYKaren
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      So, it’s called “maintenance”!! It seems that I don’t know the right search terms for stuff I want to know … thanks again for pointing me in the right direction (again).

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    • in reply to: How do you get rid of Flash Player? #2139537

      KYKaren
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      Elsewhere I have said “uninstalled/disabled” and even asked about this at #post-211017 and received a reply at #post-2110172

      I was lazy this time, figuring that it was common knowledge that in the phrase “uninstalling IE” “uninstalled” REALLY means disabled.

      But, note that Win10 calls is “uninstalled”

      So, I guess this non-issue is going to go round and round.

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    • in reply to: February 2020 Patch Tuesday foibles #2139422

      KYKaren
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      Let me ask another way then:

      So, with Version 1909, Quality Updates set to 0, Group Policy Editor set to #2 – Notify download/install, and wushowhide on the Desktop, should the “Download” button for KB4524244 be clicked on when/if it appears?

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    • in reply to: February 2020 Patch Tuesday foibles #2139392

      KYKaren
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      So, with Version 1909, Quality Updates set to 0, Group Policy Editor set to #2 – Notify download/install, and wushowhide on the Desktop, should KB4524244 be hidden, when a download/install notification for it appears?

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    • in reply to: How do you get rid of Flash Player? #2139385

      KYKaren
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      Thanks, @b for the link. I had seen the instructions before for turning it off in MS-Edge, but didn’t see the “Advanced” on the left.

      I understand that Flash Player is also called upon by Windows Media Player. Is there a way to turn if off there?

      Are there any other MS apps that use it — where it can be turned off?

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