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[LH]

@b:
When I said I got a good price, I was speaking relatively. Unfortunately I started searching too close to the expiry date – I probably could have got a better price if I had started monitoring earlier. I was searching amongst a number of local and reputable retailers. I picked a bad time as most were offering the standard MS price for Family. I only found two that were offering any discount at all – one of these was the place where I bought the original subscription last year, although the amount I paid last year was much better. I might have done better with an overseas retailer (such as Amazon), but I prefer to deal locally – much easier to handle in case of any disputes.

I don’t know where you are but I am in Australia. The retailer I chose is a chain of consumer electronics stores called Bing Lee. The price I paid for the renewal was $100 AUD before tax (GST). That would be about $76 USD at the current exchange rate. The Standard MS rate here is $117 AUD ($90 USD). Last year (at the same retailer) I paid $96 (AUD, still before GST) or about $73 USD at the current exchange rate.

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b

Problem solved!

Although the retailer sent me the new Product Key straight away, they did not register it for another five days, then waited a further two days before notifying me.

I had to re-enter the Product Key at office.com, but this time it updated my expiry date by a further 12 months.

A trap for the unwary. I will know better next time!

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b

Australia blocked too.

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[LH]

Woody,

Good luck in retirement.  And thanks for all the hard work over many years helping us all to manage and cope with our Windows experience!

(Also from Australia)

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woody

[LH]

In all but the most extraordinary circumstances, every PC boot — even one that’s using an operating system installed on a USB flash drive — leaves some digital footprints behind.

Shouldn’t that be digital bootprints ??

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[LH]

My post immediately above did not come out right, and there was no edit link to fix it, so I am trying again …

Vincenzo wrote:

Are you aware that Gmail considers Outlook a “less secure app” and requires a setting for that? see https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

Update:

Just to let you know, this is resolved.  @Vincenzo was right – apparently Google considers MS Outlook 365 to be “less secure” (but apparently not Outlook 2010 as my GMail accounts have been, and still are, happily accessed on my old Win 7 machine).  You have to log in to each GMail account in turn, then navigate to https://myaccount.google.com/u/0/lesssecureapps?pageId=none and set the “allow less secure app” flag to ON.

I am amazed that, with GMail and MS Outlook arguably being the most popular ESP and email client, this issue is not more widely known.  I had read fairly widely on Office 365 before subscribing recently, but had not seen any reference to this matter.  Now, armed with the correct key words “less secure app” (thanks to Vincenzo), I was able to search for more information, and even found a topic in these forums which I would have liked to have found a few weeks ago:  https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/outlook-2010-continually-asks-for-password/  which describes the same problem and has the answer.

You have to dig deep in the Google webpages to find any reference to Outlook as being a “less secure app”.  And there are some gotchas: firstly, if any account has no activity for six months, Google may turn the “allow less secure app” flag OFF again (some of my GMail addresses are not used very often and may fall foul of this).  Secondly I read somewhere that Google may disable this flag altogether early in 2021.  As both GMail and Outlook are so popular, why haven’t the two companies resolved this already?

Apparently there is a workaround where you can get Google to provide a special password for each of their accounts (replacing the user-defined password) to allow that account to be accessed from that device.  Not sure of the details as yet – will have to do some more research.  In any case, it is a big mess.

Thanks to those who have helped me with this problem.
Regards,
Lyn.

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Elly

@Vincenzo:

As I said in my post below, Outlook 365 using POP3 in my Win 10 machine doesn’t work with SPA set either way.  However, per your advice I have set it OFF for both POP3 and SMTP.  I don’t want this to complicate things when we do find the root cause.

Thanks again for your help.

Lyn.

 

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Vincenzo wrote:

Are you aware that Gmail considers Outlook a “less secure app” and requires a setting for that? see https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

 

I didn’t know that.  They certainly don’t mention Outlook by name anywhere I could find!

However, I discovered this early on when, during my various experiments, I received an email on my Recovery email (accessible still on my old machine) that Google had blocked one of my test emails because I was using a “less secure app”.  I found my way to the place where you can override this and set it “use less secure apps”.  I don’t have such a problem with Outlook 2010 on the old PC, but I might have struck it when I commissioned that machine over five years ago, resolved it, and then forgot about it.

Thanks for pointing this out.

 

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Thanks PK.  I thought I had done that.  But I also just found out that THANKS didn’t work either.  A little investigation discovered that I hadn’t “trusted” AskWoody in my NoScript extension (new machine, new copy of Firefox, my oversight, my bad!).  Fixed now.

 

It looks as though everything is OK now.  Thanks again.

Lyn.

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@Vincenzo, thanks for your suggestion. I don’t know whether SPA is required or not. It was checked in my Outlook 2010 PC (which works fine), so I just copied it to the new system. I don’t remember why it was set in the old system, but probably because it was already set in the machine before that! I am not really sure what SPA is; research says it is specific to Microsoft email clients (which Outlook is), but only if the mail server needs it – maybe GMail doesn’t need it (as you suggest). Anyway, I had already tried variations on the setup parameters, including having SAP on and off. Unfortunately, it made no difference one way or the other.

So I am still seeking further input on this…

Cheers,
Lyn.

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@joep517, thanks for your response.

“Have you checked your Outlook 2010 settings and made sure that Outlook 365 matches?”

That was my starting point. I copied down all the Outlook 2010 settings for each address and used them to set up the corresponding accounts in Outlook 365.

“By default, POP3 does not leave e-mail on the server. Unless you changed that on Outlook 2010 there won’t be any e-mail to retrieve in Outlook 365 if you access it on Outlook 2010 first. ”

If there were no email to retrieve, surely Outlook 365 would do nothing (same as 2010), or perhaps say there was nothing to retrieve (as Windows 10 Mail does). But not throw up a dialog saying “Something went wrong” and offering a troubleshooting link (which incidentally just prompted re-entry of the setup parameters).

Thanks again,
Lyn.

PS: Could not get the QUOTE link to work, so had to add my own double-quotes.

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Win 7 Pro SP1.  KB4524752 has arrived as Optional/Recommended (italicized) and unticked.  Will hide.

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I had a random look at an issue from 2010/10/28 (Issue 263).  In Fred Langa’s article”What to do when a patch won’t install”, at one point he recommends typing the following into a command prompt window:

reg delete HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftSQMClient WindowsDisabledSessions /va /f

Note that there are no backslashes.  This is followed by a figure showing the command prompt after this has been typed in – which does show the backslashes.  I presume that the missing backslashes is some kind of porting problem from the original ??

 

 

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woody, satrow

Seff wrote:

Is there, or could there be please, a way of showing within our profile when we last made a donation? I appreciate I can go back through credit card statements (if it’s clearly named), but I don’t want to miss annual renewals and let it lapse to the point where my status changes, so it would be handy to get a prompt within the profile whenever the anniversary has come round and another donation is due.

The information is there already.  Go to My account, Subscriptions – you will see the list of payments made (but no date).  Press the View button for your Active subscription and the Last Order Date (start date) and the End Date (due date) will show. My end date is in January 2020.

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