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bsfinkel wrote:

… IN the Start menu I see Windows Update, and the properties show %windir%\system32\wuapp.exe startmenu

Hi bsfinkel:

Also note that if I search my C:\Windows\System32 folder for wu*.exe that there is no executable found named wuapp.exe.

According to the WindowsReport article What to do if Windows cannot find wuapp.exe :

“…However, the update settings in Win 10 are a little different. Microsoft removed the ‘wuapp.exe’ file from Windows 10. So Win 10 includes update options within the Settings app instead of Control Panel. As such, a “Windows cannot find wuapp.exe” error message pops up when users enter ‘wuapp.exe’ in Run. That error message can also pop up when users click Windows Update in older versions of Internet Explorer (IE 11 no longer includes a Windows Update option) …”

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Alex5723 wrote:

On My Windows 10 Pro 22H2 when I search for Windows Update I get ‘Windows Update Settings’ which opens Windows Update.

Hi Alex5723:

I assume that’s because a search from the taskbar (next to the Start button) remembers the user’s last choice when it recommends the “best choice” for the search results. I normally have “Windows Update Settings” in my search results as my “2nd choice” …

… but regardless, the only choice for “Windows Update Settings” is to “Open” the setting.  There’s no path (target file location) shown for an executable.

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bsfinkel wrote:

none of these responses tells me why the “Windows Update” in the start menu does not open; it seems to point to a non-existent executable.

Hi bsfinkel:

Could you just clarify how you are trying to start Windows Update? My Win 10 Pro v22H2 OS doesn’t have a shortcut for Windows Update when I open the list of installed programs from the Start button (that includes subfolders like Start | Windows Administrative Tools and Start | Windows System).

When I search for “Windows Update” from the search box next to the Start button the “best match” is “Check for Updates (System settings)” …

… which, unlike the shortcuts for  my installed programs like the example below for my MS Outlook 2019 email client, cannot be right clicked to find the file location of the executable that launches the program.

Am I looking in wrong place on my Start menu, and if not are you sure you didn’t create your own (now corrupted?) shortcut to Windows Update and pin it to your start menu?

If you haven’t already done so you might want to run the DISM command Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth and System File Checker (sfc /scannow) from an elevated command prompt with Administrator rights as instructed in the ghacks.net article Use DISM to Fix Issues SFC Can’t just in case your September 2023 updates corrupted some Windows system files.
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L95 wrote:

… I did further reading and found that Microsoft issues the updates over a period of time, and so my question is resolved. It looks like I just need to wait for Version 2309

Hi L95:

Yes, the Version 2309 / Build 16827.20130 update (rel. 28-Sep-2023) will eventually be rolled out to your Click-to-Run edition of Microsoft Office and will be applied silently in the background.  However, if you don’t want to wait you can start a manual update at File | Office Account | Update Options | Update Now.

I normally wait for my MS Office 2019 Click-to-Run updates to install automatically in the background, but I ran a manual update this way yesterday because Version 2309 / Build 16827.20130 includes a bug fix for the problem described in the Microsoft support article Outlook Unexpectedly Prompts to Reopen Items From Your Last Session that has affected my MS Office edition since late June 2023 and I wanted to confirm that the bug fix actually corrected the problem (which it did).

Release notes for Version 2309 / Build 16827.20130 (Current Channel) are posted at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/current-channel#version-2309-september-28.
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L95

lmacri wrote:

Just an FYI that the MS support article Outlook Unexpectedly Prompts to Reopen Items From Your Last Session was updated on 14-Sep-2023 and now states: “This problem is currently scheduled to be fixed in Version 2310 with an estimated release in late October 2023. We will update this topic with more specific information as we get closer to release.”

Hi 77JOE84:

Microsoft Answers Forum Moderator Gabriel Bratton just posted in CSG-08’s My Outlook 2016 “Start Up Options menu” has no drop down submenu that that the upcoming Version 2309 Build 16827.20130 that has just started rolling out contains a bug fix.

I haven’t tried a manual update (File | Office Account | Update Options | Update Now) to confirm but so far reports from early testers are promising.  I think I’ll wait until the official release notes at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/current-channel are posted and/or the Microsoft support article Outlook Unexpectedly Prompts to Reopen Items From Your Last Session (last updated  14-Sep-2023) is revised to confirm a bug fix has been released.

EDIT:

Spoke too soon. The Microsoft support article Outlook Unexpectedly Prompts to Reopen Items From Your Last Session was just updated and now states :

STATUS: FIXED

This issue is fixed in Version 2309 Build 16827.20130. To install the update immediately select File > Office Account > Update Options > Update Now“.

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lmacri wrote:

The developer of UCheck posted today in the Wilders forum at UCheck – Update Your Software in 2 Clicks that “In a very near future, we’ll also support recognition, update and install of portable versions for those software.” UCheck itself can be downloaded as a portable app, so that’s good news as well.

Hi Magic66:

Just an FYI that UCheck v4.10.2 (rel. 20-Sep-2023) has been updated to detect portable apps – see the release notes at https://www.adlice.com/docs/ucheck/release-notes/changelog/.

Unfortunately, the test results I posted in the UCheck forum at UCheck v4.10.2 – Problem Scanning Portable Apps confirm that the only portable app that UCheck currently detects is AdwCleaner. Developer Tigzy’s 27-Sep-2023 response in post # 186 of the Wilders Security forum topic UCheck – Update Your Software in 2 Clicks is a bit discouraging and leaves me with the impression that the list of portable apps detected by UCheck will not be significantly expanded before SUMo reaches end-of-support on 31-Oct-2023.
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Alex5723

L95 wrote:

1. When I go to the Windows 10 Settings/Update & Security/View Update History, are the updates for my Office product supposed to show up there, along with the Windows updates? I see Windows Updates listed there, but no Office Updates.

Hi L95:

Further to Drcard:))’s comments in post # 2589848, if File | Office Account shows that you have a Click-to-Run (C2R) version of MS Office Home and Business then you will not see your Office updates listed in your Windows Update history, since Windows Update only checks for updates for users with a traditional “old-style” version of Microsoft Office 2013 or 2016 that was installed with a .msi installer. See the Office Watch article Is My Microsoft Office .MSI or Click to Run for more information.

I use Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 Click-to-Run and I am currently on Version 2308 / Build 16731.20234, which is the latest build released 12-Sep-2023 for all Click-to-Run users on the Current Channel release schedule.  All my Office updates are done silently in the background and if I open Task Manager I can see the OfficeClickToRun.exe process that manages these silent updates running in the background on my computer.

Most home users with Click-to-Run Office products are on the Current Channel by default and receive updates a few times a month (versus the Monthly Enterprise Channel and Semi-Annual Enterprise release channels for business users that receive feature updates at a slower pace – see <here> for a comparison chart).  All Click-to-Run Office products (including Microsoft 365 and retail editions of Microsoft Office 2016 / 2019 / 2021 Click-to-Run) that are on the Current Channel are all updated on the same schedule and receive the same version and build number at the same time. For example, the release history for my retail version of Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 Click-to-Run is listed at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-2019#retail-versions-of-office-2016-c2r-and-office-2019  and the matching version and build numbers can be found in the Current Channel release notes at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/current-channel that I am directed to when I go to File | Office Account | Update Options | View Updates.
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L95

Alex5723 wrote:

ust wonder, will it make any difference if it does then you’ll update to iOS 17 ? Or if it doesn’t you will stay on an ancient unsupported iOS 15 ?

Hi Alex5723:

I have an older 7th gen iPod Touch that run iOS v15.x and as far as I know upgrading to iOS v16.x or higher isn’t an option. Also, my iOS v15.x still receives regular updates, including the iOS 15.7.9 update of 11-Sep-2023 that patched CVE-2023-41064 (see https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213913), so I’m not sure it’s fair to say that iOS v15.x is “unsupported”.

I only asked about CVE-2023-41991, –41992 and –41993 because many of Susan’s past announcements about iOS zero days often recommend that users update the iOS v15.x on their old devices as well as the iOS 16.x and higher on their newer devices – see her 21-Jun-2023 Apple Releases New Security Updates – June 21 about a previous iOS v15.7.7 update released for my iPod Touch for one example. The CVE reports for all three of these newer CVEs are a bit vague and many of the Apple operating systems in the list of affected products still have a status of “Unknown”.
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Alex5723 wrote:

I don’t have this entry in my Windows 10 Pro 22H2. I don’t use any 3rd party tweaking tools.

Hi Alex5723:

Just to clarify, you said in post # 2588861 that you do not see the pop-up ads from “Suggested” that are being discussed in this thread.

If these (experimental?) pop-up ads haven’t been rolled out to your system then I would not expect you to have the “Suggested” sender at Settings | System | Notifications & Actions | Get Notifications From These Senders or to see a registry entry for this sender at Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Notifications\Settings\Windows.SystemToast.Suggested.

Also note that your image indicates you are looking in the wrong location in your registry (i.e., at Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\… instead of Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Notifications\…).  I only noticed this because I made the same mistake the first time I went looking for the registry entry for notifications from “Suggested”.
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Alex5723

WUBRINY wrote:

… My registry entry is identical to that suggested by PerthMike. I did not make the change manually, so I cannot be certain where it came from. Did O&O Shutup work? Did Microsoft push out the change in an update?…

Hi WUBRINY:

I assume it was the one of the notifications settings you changed using O&O Shutup that you described in post # 2587982.

My registry entry at Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Notifications\Settings\Windows.SystemToast.Suggested also has a value of 0 because I disabled notifications for the sender named Suggested at Settings | System | Notifications & Actions | Get Notifications From These Senders to stop these annoying pop-up ads. If I turn notifications back on for the sender Suggested that registry entry changes back to a value of 1.

There’s no need for home consumers to make manual registry edits or use a third-party Windows configuration app like O&O Shutup10++ to stop these pop-up ads – just turn off the sender named Suggested in your Windows notification settings as shown in the first image above. The solution MikePerth provided in post # 2586448 to use Group Policy (GPO) to edit the registry only applies to system administrators who want turn off notifications (pop-up ads) for the Suggested sender and push out that change to multiple client computers on a network.
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Hi Deanna:

Thanks for the review. The ability of Uninstalr to clean up orphaned remnants of previously uninstalled programs sounds useful, since this is a feature that is usually only included in PRO version of most uninstallers. However, an initial scan of my system with Uninstalr Portable v1.1 showed it found less than 7 MB of leftovers for 3 programs. Two of those programs, HiBit Uninstaller and DUMo, are portable apps that aren’t “installed” on my system so I’ll have to take a deeper dive and see exactly where the “leftovers” for those programs are located.

I also have some concerns about the way that the product comparison tests were run in their YouTube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOo5IIU1cY. I skipped to minute 13 for the comparison with Revo Uninstaller Pro since I often use the Free edition of this app, and I noticed they used the Quick Uninstall feature of Revo Uninstaller Pro v5.1.7 for the test without advanced scanning for remnants. When I uninstall a program using my Revo Uninstaller Free Portable v2.x program I usually uninstall in “Advanced” mode to do a deep scan for any orphaned file and registry entries left behind by the “regular” uninstaller, and in practice I doubt that most Revo Uninstaller users would use this app to uninstall a program without checking for remnants.
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Tom wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to stop the Photos app running in the background? Is there a registry entry? Because every time I disable it, it comes back. CCleaner warns me every time I run a clean and I have to disable it. It also uses memory and CPU power…

Hi Tom:

I know this won’t help now since you’ve already used O&O AppBuster to remove Microsoft Photos from your system, but do you recall the name of the Microsoft Photos process that was running in Task Manager? I have a Win 10 Pro v22H2 OS and Microsoft Photos in not listed as a startup app at Settings | Apps | Startup, and I can’t see any .exe files associated with this app on the Processes tab of Task Manager that are loading at boot-up and running in the background.

Settings | Apps | Apps & Features and my Reliability Monitor show that the Microsoft Store automatically updated this UWP app to v2023.11090.12017.0 on 22-Sep-2023 …

… but I would expect this UWP app to automatically update because I have Microsoft Photos enabled at Settings | Privacy | App Permissions | Background Apps.

I use CCleaner Free Portable v6.16 and I’ve never seen a warning about closing Microsoft Photos, but I only run manual Custom Clean scans to clean a relatively small number of items and never allow other features like the Health Check system optimizer or the Software Updater to run on my system.  All I can see in Custom Clean that might be associated with Microsoft Photos is a check box (disabled by default) to clean Photos Temp Files.

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Does anyone know if these vulnerabilities affect iOS v15.x?

My 7th gen iPod Touch received an update to iOS v15.7.9 (rel. 11-Sep-2023) to patch CVE-2023-41064, but I checked at https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2023-41991,  https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2023-41992 and https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2023-41993 and these CVE write-ups only state that “Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited against versions of iOS before iOS 16.7“.
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Alex5723 wrote:

I don’t have “Suggested” sender on Windows 10 Pro 22H2…

Hi Alex5723:

When I checked my Win 10 Pro v22H2 settings on 08-Sep-2023 at Settings | System | Notifications & Actions | Get Notifications From These Senders I did not have a “Suggested” sender.

I’m not sure if this sender was added to my notification settings during my Sept 2023 Patch Tuesday updates (which I installed on 16-Sep-2023) or a few days later on 20-Sep-2023 when these “Suggested” pop-ups ads first appeared on my system, but Microsoft appears to be rolling out this feature slowly – see the section titled “Annoying PC Training Notifications” in Gunter Born’s 07-Nov-2022 Microsoft’s Annoying Windows Ads: Edge Suggests Bing, PC Training Notifications in their Born’s Tech and Windows World blog.

If this is an experimental feature and Microsoft is still gathering feedback before deciding if it should be rolled out to all users then Microsoft should have limited testing to users who have enrolled in the Windows Insiders program instead of pushing these annoying pop-up ads out to “regular” users.
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Just an FYI that Martin Brinkmann posted How to Turn Off Advertising Popups in Windows 11 today (21-Sep-2023) on ghacks.net that essentially repeats the advice given in this topic – namely, to go to Settings | System | Notifications | Notifications From Apps and Other Senders and toggle OFF notifications for the “Suggested” sender.  That article includes additional hints on how to reduce the number of notifications from other apps and senders in Win 11 but many of those comments apply to Win 10 users as well.
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