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Tex265
AskWoody PlusApril 1, 2019 at 8:37 pm in reply to: Patch Watch: Most of the March patches look clean at this point #347815The unanswered question is whether the March updates “require” this Servicing Stack to install them properly.
If yes, then it needs to be done by itself first.
If no, it can be done before or after the others by itself because it is for future updates, not the March updates.
So is it or is it not necessay for proper installation of the March updates?
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Tex265
AskWoody PlusApril 1, 2019 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Patch Watch: Most of the March patches look clean at this point #347751Woody will post full step by step updating instructions for everyone when the DEFCON level changes.
Hope so cause right now as respects installing KB4490628, we have PK Cano advising to install it before the other March updates, three others including GoneToPlaid who supports installing it last, and one vote for either first or last is fine.
There is however agreement that it needs to be installed by itself.
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Tex265
AskWoody PlusApril 1, 2019 at 9:49 am in reply to: Patch Watch: Most of the March patches look clean at this point #347540Susan writes as respect Window 7:
What to do: After installing the March A or B series updates, be sure to follow up with KB 4490628.
Many others at Woody’s advise to first hide all updates to make KB4490628 appear, install it by itself, reboot, wait 10-15 minutes, unhide the hidden updates, and install them.
So which method or either should we follow?
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Tex265
AskWoody PlusMarch 27, 2019 at 8:39 am in reply to: Did Microsoft just re-release KB 4480730, the “Reliability improvement to Windows 10 update components”? #345609Perhaps answering my own question, but creating a few more, I found this statement at Microsoft Support for KB4480730
This update is available through Windows Update. It will be downloaded and installed automatically to Windows 10 devices which haven’t installed the most recent Cumulative Update in a timely manner.
Now, what does “timely manner” mean? And does it mean that the most recent Cumulative Update already includes whatever is in KB4480730 therefore not necessary?
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Tex265
AskWoody PlusMarch 25, 2019 at 10:08 am in reply to: Did Microsoft just re-release KB 4480730, the “Reliability improvement to Windows 10 update components”? #345077I have still not yet received this KB4480730?
Will this come down the Windows Updater chute at some point?
My system is set at Semi-Annual Channel (not Targeted) and Group Policy > Windows Updates on 2 (Ask).
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AskWoody Plusmn- thanks very much!
If I may impose on you to answer the several remaining questions?>If a Feature Update is created via the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool (MCT), will it install as UEFI automatically via the USB stick? via a CD created from a MCT .iso? via a USB stick created by Rufus from a MCT .iso? – what Rufus settings are used?
>>I utilize the built in Windows Backup program to make image backups. Are they automatically in UEFI/GPT form for recovery?
>How is Windows 10 installed in UEFI mode vs legacy BIOS mode to begin with (eg: what settings tell the Windows installer which to install?)
mn- answered
The installer checks what mode the system is running in, and install to that.The “mode” is set from within the Motherboard – correct? And selecting EUFI with CSM is still EUFI – correct? Or does CSM need to be turned off for Windows installation purposes?
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Tex265
AskWoody PlusThanks to all who have responded. In reading the responses I learned quite a bit, but unfortunately a lot of this discussion is way above my pay grade!
Could I impose again to perhaps answer my specific questions in more simple terms? And thanks to reading these responses – several more questions?
Much appreciated to all!
>How is Windows 10 installed in UEFI mode vs legacy BIOS mode to begin with (eg: what settings tell the Windows installer which to install?)
>Once Windows 10 is installed in UEFI mode, will all future Refresh, Re-Installs, etc be UEFI automatically?
>Will Feature Updates installed via Windows 10 Updater be UEFI automatically?
>If a Feature Update is created via Windows 10 Media Creation Tool (MCT), will it install as UEFI automatically via the USB stick? via a CD created from a MCT .iso? via a USB stick created by Rufus from a MCT .iso? – what Rufus settings are used?
>For informational purposes, how would I create a legacy BIOS Windows 10 installation if I ever needed or wanted to? Would disks have to also be MBR?
>>I utilize the built in Windows Backup program to make image backups. Are they automatically in UEFI/GPT form for recovery?
>>What effect does setting the UEFI to allow CMS have on Windows installs, updates, backups, etc? If CMS is not allowed, I can’t access my USB devices (thumb drive, portable hard drive, or CD) as alternate boot drives at startup. Does this risk unintentionally performing a legacy Bios install of an update or Feature update?
>>What about UEFI using GPT and different USB drive disk formats? I read somewhere that USB drives are MBR and Fat32? USB thumb drives are used with the Windows Media Creation tool to restore of Feature upgrade – why does this mis-match work?
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AskWoody PlusThe patch that comes out on the 2nd Tues (Patch Tues) KB4489894 is the Security CU for the month.
PK, did you mean to say KB4489868 as that is the March 12th 2nd Tues Patch for 1803? KB4489894 is the 3rd Tues Patch per the Patch List and my records.
Also on my Windows 10 Pro system I never receive the 3rd Tues (non-security) Patches automatically and I don’t seek them out with the Check Update button either.
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Tex265
AskWoody Plusrc interesting comment:
If a driver is ever changed during an update or Feature Update, roll it back to the previously working OEM or installed driver
When I feature updated from 1709 to 1803 last October the process changed just about all my drivers including Nvidia card drivers to an earlier version.
I posted and most here said it happens all the time and to leave well enough alone.
Since I did not make your suggested driver backup, best I could do now is go to my component manufacturers sites and install a more current version of each driver vs a restore from the past. But, should I do this? Leave well enough alone? Or, obtain specific drivers like Nvidia and Asus MB components?
Even if I make the suggested backup, should I/we restore them after a feature backup if all seems to be working with what the feature update installs?
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AskWoody PlusMarch 15, 2019 at 1:15 pm in reply to: Did Microsoft just re-release KB 4480730, the “Reliability improvement to Windows 10 update components”? #341986PK thanks.
Am I to assume it will arrive via the Windows 10 Updater as a separate KB along with the March update KB4489868 (ver 1803)?
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AskWoody PlusMarch 15, 2019 at 12:43 pm in reply to: Did Microsoft just re-release KB 4480730, the “Reliability improvement to Windows 10 update components”? #341978Based on above the KB applies to Windows 10 1607, 1703, 1709, 1803.
Since I have Quality Updates delayed for 7 days:
How is this KB to be received?
With the regular March monthly update via Windows Updater?
Or only for “seekers”?
If it comes via the Windows Updater, should we hide?
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Tex265
AskWoody PlusWindows 7 Pro SP1 x64 Group A Updates current thru February
Just checked on March updates received:
KB4489878, KB4474419, MSRT
But no KB4490628
Should I hide first 3 and hope KB4490628 appears? Or manually download KB4490628 from the MS Catalog?
IF KB4490628 should be exclusively installed FIRST, why does it not appear until the update que is empty (logically indicating one would have installed them, not hid them?)
And if it is not necessary until July, why cant the normal March updates be installed first and then KB4490628 when if appears later?
Just askin”
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AskWoody PlusPK thanks, will give it a try.
It is my experience once a KB appears on the Windows Update screen that even though the KB is then hidden via wushowhide, it doesn’t matter until the Windows Updater runs again and refreshes the Windows Update screen to also no longer show the hidden KB. Until the refresh happens any KB still showing on the Windows Update screen will download and install if I press the Download button.
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AskWoody PlusNeed some help pls.
Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Group A. I have Group Policy > Windows Update set at 2, and have had the Feb update KB4487017 hidden with wushowhide (as well as KB4023057 twice this month).
After changing wushowhide to unhide only KB4487017, I need to wait it out for Windows to run its updater again (usually the next day) to bring it down. However this month after Windows updates, KB4023057 also reappears so I have no way to select the Download button without installing it along with the Feb update.
Any ideas how to keep KB4023057 hidden as in the past month’s???
With this persistence, have others already allowed installation?
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AskWoody Plusrc, thanks for your time providing such valuable information.
The only area that I would think more about before doing is utilizing the “Check for Updates” button thus becoming a “Seeker” for anything.
There has been so much written about this here at AskWoody and from Microsoft on the process that I am verrrrrry leary about ever doing this. I even recall a recent post cautioning about and providing a process to make darn sure (and still no guarantees) that an unwanted update or Feature update wasn’t hiding in the queue somewhere even after taking all precautions.
Each to make their own decisions. Just my two cents.
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