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  • Microsoft will continue supporting Chredge (the Chromium-based version of Edge) on Windows 7 at least until July 15, 2021

    Posted on April 11th, 2020 at 16:44 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    No security patches for Win7, unless you pay extra, but you can keep Chredge up to date:

    We will continue to support Microsoft Edge on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 until July 15, 2021. These operating systems are out of support and Microsoft recommends you move to a supported operating system such as Windows 10. While Microsoft Edge helps keep you more secure on the web, your PC may still be vulnerable to security risks. In order for IE mode to be supported on these operating systems the devices will need to have the Extended Security Updates for Windows 7. Without the Windows 7 Extended Security updates Internet Explorer functionality will be vulnerable to security risks. Additionally, IE mode functionality may cease to work without the continued servicing through the extended security updates.

  • The Chredge “new tab” page won’t let you hide the Search box, or choose a search provider other than Bing, for the foreseeable future

    Posted on February 18th, 2020 at 13:57 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Just saw this tweet from Rafael Rivera:

    Edge team still has no plan to let you choose your own search provider (or hide the search box completely) on the New Tab Page. The battle continues.

    He includes a screenshot from the Chredge team’s Top Feedback Summary for February 11:, which shows that these proposed feature improvements have been on the list for the past six months:

    And they’re still “Under review.” Sigh.

  • Windows Lock Screen showing ad for Chredge – even with advertising turned off

    Posted on February 14th, 2020 at 07:11 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Another bit of sludge from @howardagoldberg….

    He’s been telling me that his Win10 Lock Screen is showing a Chredge ad. I suggested he make sure that he has all of the Lock Screen advertising settings turned off — there’s nothing strange under Start > Settings > Personalization > Lock Screen. In particular, he isn’t using Windows spotlight as his Preview screen.

    About half an hour ago, he made this snapshot of his Lock Screen:

    Apparently this isn’t the full ad. He explains:

    Not all text displayed … there was another sentence that mentioned Edge by name before (battery icon on the lower right also didn’t resolve – sometimes happens before logging in). At any rate you get the idea. It’s there. All notifications turned off for lock screen …

    And this is on a PC that uses a Local Account – not a Microsoft Account.

    Have you been around long enough to remember the righteous indignation about PC manufacturers installing bloatware on PCs? You can still find Microsoft’s ad for their Signature Edition PCs, although you can’t buy one any more…

    Apparently Microsoft stopped selling Signature Edition PCs after August 2018. (If you have a more precise date I’d sure like to hear about it.)

    How the mighty have fallen. Microsoft continues to slide down that slippery road….

    UPDATE: Goldberg now advises that he may have had “Fun Facts” turned on in the Lock Screen dialog. This may be a self-inflicted wound (although I continue to lament the passing of the Signature Edition PC program). Will keep you posted.

  • Still using Firefox? Microsoft Edge is here. Or is it?

    Posted on February 10th, 2020 at 07:25 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Over the weekend, u/S_IV posted this screenshot on Reddit:

    That same screenshot made the rounds all over the web this weekend.

    As usual, Mayank Parmar at Windows Latest has the rundown:

    If you have Firefox as your default browser, you might see the advertisement or suggestion in the Start menu. Depending on whether you’re actively using Firefox or other browsers, the recommendation may or may not show up.

    And therein lies the rub. I have Firefox as my default browser — in fact, I’m using it to write this post — and I turned off “Occasionally show suggestions in Start” long ago (Parmar has details if you aren’t sure about your Start menu’s susceptibility to Microsoft advertising). But if I turn “show suggestions” on, I don’t see the pushy ad, even after a reboot.

    Do you see it? Or is this something that Microsoft pushed then abruptly withdrew?

    Lawrence Abrams at BleepingComputer also talks about a Chredge ad that appears in the Search box when you type “inter” (as in, “Internet Explorer”). It, too, is from that same Reddit thread:

    So far, I haven’t seen any independent confirmation about either ad. The screenshots I’ve seen for both ads seem to originate from this one Reddit thread — the hand-drawn red callout lines are a dead giveaway.

    Have you seen either of those ads? Can you vouch for their authenticity? Or did they disappear as quickly (and unexpectedly) as they showed up?

    Hey, I’m as quick to ding Microsoft as anybody. You know that. But is it possible that we’ve all been bamboozled?

  • New security patch for Chredge

    Posted on February 8th, 2020 at 07:19 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Yesterday, Microsoft updated its ongoing Security Advisory for the Chromium based version of Edge, Security Advisory ADV2000002.

    That’s Microsoft’s new way of telling you that it issued a security patch for Chredge that incorporates security patches contributed to the open source Chromium project. Since Chredge is based on Chromium, security patches to Chromium need to be rolled into Chredge.

    No, it isn’t Patch Tuesday or Patch Tuesday related. It’s just kind of random at this point. Yes, that means we have another security cycle to worry about.

    Chredge version 80.0.361.48 contains dozens of security patches. Günter Born has details.

  • Chredge security update: Security Advisory ADV200002

    Posted on January 28th, 2020 at 15:13 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Since Chredge (the Chromium-based version of Edge) is no longer tied to Windows, it looks like we’ll get lots of Security Advisories like this one:

    This advisory will be updated whenever Microsoft releases a version of Microsoft Edge which incorporates publicly disclosed security updates from the Chromium project.

    Microsoft Edge Version Date Published Based on Chromium Version CVE
    79.0.309.71 1/15/2020 79.0.3945.130 CVE-2020-6378CVE-2020-6379CVE-2020-6380CVE-2020-0601

    Thx, Catalin Cimpanu

  • Chredge is available now

    Posted on January 15th, 2020 at 11:12 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Be still my beating heart.

    The Chromium-engine based version of Edge, which Mary Jo calls “Chredge,” just made an appearance on the Microsoft download site. Don’t know about you, but when I go to that site with the Chrome browser on Win10, it invites me to download the macOS version.

    Chredge still has a lot of rough edges. No history sync across devices. No extension sync between devices. And we’re just starting the (unpaid) beta testing phase. But it’s still a welcome new take on a dreadful old/new product.

    We’ve been promised an automatic rollout to Windows users.Kyle Pflug at Microsoft has posted a rollout roadmap:

    If you’d prefer not to install Microsoft Edge manuallyyou can wait for it to be installed in a future update to Windows 10following our measured roll-out approach over the next several months. We will start to migrate Windows 10 customers to the new Microsoft Edge in the coming weeks, starting with a subset of Windows Insiders in the Release Preview ring Enterprise and education users will not be automatically upgraded at this timeThe new Microsoft Edge will gradually be made available on Windows Update and offered to additional devices as data and feedback indicate that users are having a good experience.

    Yes, you can run Chredge and Oldedge simultaneously, but why bother?

  • Neowin: Microsoft will support the new Chromium-based Edge, Chredge, for at least 18 months

    Posted on January 13th, 2020 at 15:17 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

    Yeah, I know, it doesn’t make any sense.

    But if you’re running Windows 7 after Wednesday, you’ll likely get nudged to install the new Chredge = the Chromium-engine based version of Edge.

    Even more surprising: That version of Chredge — the one on the unsupported version of Windows — will be supported at least until July 15, 2021.

    Rich Woods at Neowin says it’s so.

    Thx @EP for the heads up.

    UPDATE: Rich Woods has since said that Microsoft retracted its statement.