Yesterday, Microsoft released two patches that tackle the Spectre v2 vulnerability — the one that’s never been seen in public. The first patch, KB 40
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So tell me again what’s happening with the two new Spectre v2 patches, KB 4078407 and KB 4091666
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ManagerApril 25, 2018 at 11:33 am #187258Viewing 7 reply threadsAuthorReplies-
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AskWoody LoungerApril 25, 2018 at 12:29 pm #187272Sure looks like all it does is a registry edit to enable already-installed code:
“Applying this update will enable the Spectre Variant 2 mitigation CVE-2017-5715 – “Branch target injection vulnerability.”
Advanced users can also manually enable mitigation against Spectre, Variant 2 through the registry settings documented in the following articles:”
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AskWoody PlusApril 25, 2018 at 12:47 pm #187284Analogous to KB4091666 there are KB4090007 which you already mentioned, but was amended yesterday. This KB is for Win10 v1709. I think more processors have been added. I have never seen Haswell or Broadwell before on that list, for example. It used to be only Skylake, Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake. But you also have KB4091663 which is for Win10 v1703 and KB4091664 which is for Win10 v1607. Together with KB4091666 for Win10 v1507, I think that covers all supported Win10 versions. All these KB’s have been amended (introduced for older Win10 versions?) yesterday, April 24. What the relation is between these KB’s and KB4078407 I do not know. I always assumed that Windows would automatically implement its Spectre v2 patch when the proper microcode is present, which, I assume, is the whole purpose for all these KB’s. Maybe it is for manually forcing Win10 to apply its Spectre patch if Windows does not do that automatically?
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AskWoody_MVPApril 26, 2018 at 2:27 pm #187678That would actually require running the mitigations before the OS has a chance to get started. So it’s ball in Intel’s court for this. Which they answer by proposing to use the GPU, not the CPU to do some preboot security scanning. Also, TPM mitigations run preboot. Security on this scale has to be baked into the hardware and updated through the firmware of the device. Microsoft can’t patch for security issues this early in the boot sequence, even with UEFI fast-boot.
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AskWoody_MVPApril 25, 2018 at 3:27 pm #187381KB4078407 is not a patch, it’s just an executable that enable the Spectre mitigation protection
percisely:
reg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
reg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
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AskWoody_MVPApril 26, 2018 at 2:21 pm #187671KB4078407 is not a patch, it’s just an executable that enable the Spectre mitigation protection precisely:
reg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
reg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
These entries have an undesirable side-effect on some systems. They actually disable the Meltdown firmware (BIOS) patches on some Skylake systems (including my own Intel NUC mini-PC).
This was discovered using the Gibson Research InSpectre testing tool on Windows 10, version 1709, 64-bits on my Intel NUC. I used InSpectre as Admin to reverse the undesirable effect.
Once again, Windows 10 is being “sealed for our protection” and simultaneously being opened up to “new and dangerous threat-t-t-t-ts”! Thanks, Microsoft! 🙁
(Contrast this with my Fedora and Ubuntu Linux kernel updates — better protections with each iteration. Thanks, Linus [Torvalds]!) 🙂
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