2020’s Windows 10 2004

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WINDOWS 10 By Susan Bradley Well, it’s that time of year! Microsoft releases a new version of Windows 10 … and we promptly put it off for as lon
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We all won’t be putting it off.  I’ll be installing it as soon as Microsoft makes it available through the Windows Update channel, and reporting my experience here for the rest of you.

I’m particularly interested in how the B side of my dual boot fairs.  It is sliced, diced and spliced in a Microsoft-does-not-support-this installation.  It handled the 1903 to 1909 transition without a hiccup (along with all subsequent updates), and this will be its second big test.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Susan, this 18-month Windows 10 major release insanity from Microsoft dredges up my deep dislike for the way Microsoft treats its customers.  I am the owner of a software startup and a former executive with a long career in the IT industry.  I would find it very helpful if you or one of the Lounge members did an in-depth post about the state-of-the-art regarding Linux and its corporate productivity apps (the Linux version of Microsoft Office).  Maybe there already exists such a post in the Lounge, but I didn’t find it when I searched.  Is the Linux ecosystem at the point in its maturity where a typical Microsoft Office corporate office environment can be replaced with a comparable Linux solution?  Excel is my major concern – is there a comparable Linux app that’s as powerful as Excel (particularly its VBA)?  It’s time to get off the Microsoft treadmill …

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I really hope the File Explorer Search function is fixed with this release. It would be lovely to tell clients this is finally resolved.

I’m honestly glad Cortana has been deprecated. A great feature for Windows phone; useless in any open office environment, and mediocre at best for tablets or home environment. I’d much rather see Microsoft development effort put into other things, even if they aren’t flashy.

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Normally, I wait until installing a new feature update. But, 2004 has been in the over for over four months now. I installed it on four new PC’s. At this point it seems buttery smooth. I hope it stays that way.

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Don’t let your guard down, feature updates tend to show its fangs  a few days or weeks later.

Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.

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For Home versions, delaying Feature Updates is presumably limited to the 28 day Pause facility as used for all monthly updates? Or am I missing something as a newly upgraded Win10 user not yet decided on whether to fork out for two version upgrades for my home desktops?

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The Pause option should apply to the Quality Updates (monthly CUs).

The Feature Updates (upgrade to next version) should be optional (until near EOL for a version), in which case they should appear in the “download and install now” list/link below the “Check for updates” link. Once the version approaches EOL, MS may take liberty to upgrade you at their whim.

Check AKB2000016 – Guide to Win10 update settings.

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Thanks PK, so as I ignore optional updates I should be ok then for a while, good to know!

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[geekdom]

I plan to wait to install Windows 10 2004; it needs to age a little bit. My computer may have other plans.

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[DriftyDonN]

Regarding the soon (?) to be released (forced?) , 2020’s Windows 10 2004 is it time to change the feature update setting in win10 pro ver 1909? I have my deferral set at 80 days- should I increase this especially since even the cumulative update for this month hasn’t been given the ok yet? Speaking of which what are we to do as May approaches and it seems there are more issues found with the  aforementioned Apr CU?

Thanks – be safe- and don’t touch ANYONE’S face!! (grin)

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Per Susan:

Cleaning house

I also use this time to make sure other components are fully up to date: primarily the bios and hardware drivers — especially graphics.

Opening up the age old questions of should we update our Bios/UEFI or not, and how dangerous is it?  Does updating the Bios/UEFI wipe out all the previous custom settings requiring one to go in and remake those settings? (My limited experience with an ASUS board is Yes).

Graphics is another hot topic for complex drivers to install badly with many suggesting to leave well enough alone. My experience has been that the Windows 10 Feature update always changes the graphics driver to what it wants so should we take the risk?

What do you think?

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Tex265 wrote:

My experience has been that the Windows 10 Feature update always changes the graphics driver to what it wants so should we take the risk?

Microsoft doesn’t override GPU drivers from Manufacturers.
I just updated the Intel DCH driver.

Microsoft vanilla GPU drivers lag months behind the latest manufacturers GPU drivers and never replace a new driver with an old one.

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Alex5723 wrote:

Microsoft doesn’t override GPU drivers from Manufacturers

Beg to differ with that.  My system is custom from Maingear with discrete graphics card from MSI and Nvidia chips and drivers.  I have Feature updated twice (actually 3 times counting 1903 to 1909) since receiving and both times the MS updater changed my Nvidia drivers to a different driver package.  The last package that was delivered to 1903 stayed with 1909 update, but was actually a special Nvidia driver package not even available from the normal Nvidia website.  It created alot of questions which are still unanswered.

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Tex265 wrote:

I have Feature updated twice (actually 3 times counting 1903 to 1909) since receiving and both times the MS updater changed my Nvidia drivers to a different driver package.

I too have feature updated twice : 1803-1809-1909 With Intel UHD 630 & Mvidia 1050ti GPUs and none has been changed by Microsoft.
I download and update these drivers manually from Intel & Mvidia, regularly.

Microsoft may replace GPU drivers if the current installed drivers are old/not secure.

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2004 “take two” as build 19041.208 on April 30 in the RP ring:

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/04/30/getting-the-may-2020-update-ready-for-release-updated/

We are continuing to work on getting the Windows 10 May 2020 Update (20H1) ready for release. Today we are releasing Build 19041.208 to Windows Insiders in the Release Preview ring. While we originally thought that Build 19041.207 would be the final build, we made the decision to take in one more fix we felt was important to have before making the May 2020 Update generally available. We believe that Build 19041.208 is the new final build and still plan on continuing to improve the overall experience of the May 2020 Update on customers’ PCs as part of our normal servicing cadence.

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I decided to follow Susan’s advice about getting a fresh ISO on my flash drive before 2004 comes out. I downloaded the MCT which said that it was 1909.exe. So I ran it on my USB stick and after it was done, I checked and it is the same version/build as the one I already had for 1903 before Jan., 18362.592. Evidently the MCT hasn’t been updated in awhile.

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[geekdom]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Select: Download tool now

Seeing:  MediaCreationTool1909.exe file with this information in properties 10.0.18362.418

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Hmmm, that’s an even older build than I just got today which was 10.0.18362.592.

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[DriftyDonN]

I already dl the iso a couple days ago- not sure where ti find version but I did as you said here and see insert

 

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@DriftyDonN,

Yes that’s what properties for the MCT say’s but after you download the ISO to your USB drive, it will show the actual build that downloaded by following this with your USB drive still attached:

Open an elevated Command Prompt window, and then type the following command:
dism /Get-WimInfo /WimFile:F:\sources\install.wim /index:1
In the ISO file, if you have install.esd instead of install.wim, you’d type:
dism /Get-WimInfo /WimFile:F:\sources\install.esd /index:1
DISM can handle both these file formats (.wim & .esd), at least in Windows 10.      NOTE: The letter “F” is the USB drive on MY computer, substitute whatever your USB drive letter is.

 

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[DriftyDonN]

Any changes to your instructions if the iso resides on c: drive ? Its named as you likely know, windows.iso

I intend to move it to my external backup SSD  .

Trying to figure out Iphone for first time has kept me occupied, esp after finding out wi Fi calling wont work on Boost and they locked my phone to them for 12 months -grrrr. Anyway, will be doing some cleanup soon and get a bunch of space back on this lappie.

Thnx

DriftyDonN

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DriftyDonN wrote:

Any changes to your instructions if the iso resides on c: drive ? Its named as you likely know, windows.iso

I’m sure there are but I don’t know the answer to get the info from your C drive. My guess is that you would have to Mount it first and then run the commands BUT I do not know that for sure.

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Windows doesn’t care where the ISO is stored, it’s getting it onto a USB stick that can be tricky.
Which bit do you need clarified?

cheers, Paul

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know how to get the iso on a usb-bootable and otherwise. trying to verify version downloaded by msft tool. see above screen shots.

 

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Paul T wrote:

Windows doesn’t care where the ISO is stored, it’s getting it onto a USB stick that can be tricky.

There is nothing simpler than getting multiple various OS ISO files on a USB using portable Ventoy app

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windows version downloaded? see screen shots

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Did you forget to attach the screenshots?

cheers, Paul

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