• C Drive almost full Why.. cannot find how

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    I have a 500gb ssd c drive .. and it 420gb full , but when I look on windows I can only find 50 gb in a 2019 photos folder.. why can I not see what is take up all the room.. so what do I us to see it..

    side question.. I looking for my verzion of window.. found I had 1809.. and think it should or has been up dated..

    thank you

    44zack44

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    • #2242660

      TreeSizeFree will search your disk and list directories in order of space use. Then you can trim as needed.
      BTW, 80GB free is plenty for Windows and your SSD.

      Woody recommends updating to 1909.

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2242662

      Open Windows Explorer and type in the adress bar:

      %temp%

      This is your folder with all temporary files. You may delete them. Also look at c:\windows\temp – delete files there also, but do NOT delete folder, just files in folder.

      You can try what will find CCleaner – you can install it (EXE file) or use portable version (ZIP file). Build are here:

      https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/builds

      Also check the size of C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution. Did you have problems with installing updates?

      • #2252485

        Especially check  the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download directory using an administrator account. I just looked at mine today and deleted the 2 gigabytes of files located there. These were left behind by the daily updates from Microsoft’s virus & threat protection updates. They never showed up when I ran Disk Cleanup and clicked “Clean up system files”. I left the contents of the SharedFileCache directory untouched.

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    • #2242666

      I have a 500gb ssd c drive .. and it 420gb full , but when I look on windows I can only find 50 gb in a 2019 photos folder.. why can I not see what is take up all the room.. so what do I us to see it..

      side question.. I looking for my verzion of window.. found I had 1809.. and think it should or has been up dated..

      thank you

      44zack44

      Run the  Portable Largest Files Finder

    • #2242733

      Settings > System > Storage > Local Disk C XXX GB > Temporary files
      — You will probably find quite a few GB being taken up in Windows Update Cleanup that you can delete

      HP EliteBook 8540w laptop Windows 10 Pro (x64)

    • #2246823

      I would first run the ‘disk cleanup’ function, and put an X in the ‘cleanup system files’ box, and let ‘er fly.  That should get rid of a significant number of needless files.

      To go beyond that, you’ll have to change file options to view hidden files: while looking at any folder with files or folders in it, click on the ‘view’ tab up top and at the far right of that tool bar, click ‘options’ then ‘change folder and search options’.  Then click the ‘view’ tab.  Scroll down to the ‘hidden files and folders’ and put an x in the ‘show hidden files and folders’ choice.  Then ‘apply’, followed by the ‘apply to folders’ button at the top of that box.  Now you can view hidden files.

      I run a very tight ship on my Win 10 computers.  So I routinely prowl around to find out what it’s storing on me, etc.  Whenever possible, I delete all historical info saved, such as:

      historical bookmarks (from Firefox), also Firefox temporary files

      C:\users\<your id>\apdata\local\temp (may lose saved passwords when cleared, but so what? – I NEVER save passwords on my computer),

      C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\applications\windows\gatherlogs\systemindex – this folder supposedly keeps track of all search functions you perform…and keeps it forever.  Not on my computer!  Earlier this week, I checked one of the .gthr files and found the full folder address of my Excel checkbook!!  I’ve found file references for numerous other files of photographs I was editing with Photoshop, and the like.  In my opinion, this one leaves you open to extensive personal data theft.

      C:\Windows\prefetch – This is a ‘short list’ cache of recently accessed files to presumably speed up your computer as time goes on.  With an SSD, it unnecessarily writes and reads to my Windows drive (C:).  It took a while, but I finally found and disabled the culprit Windows Services item: Sysmain  ‘Maintains and improves system performance over time’  It also sucks up a lot of space on drive C:

      C:\Windows\Temp – I don’t know how ‘old’ a log entry in here stays around.  I’m guessing ‘forever’.  I routinely clean it out after shutting down all open windows (apps).  If you’re diagnosing system problems, this is where the log files are stored, so keep the more recent ones.

      In my book, any folder named ‘temp’ is fair game to be cleaned out (not deleted) whenever I feel like it.  And I do…once or twice a week.  Maybe the FBI would call this ‘destroying evidence’, but I call it ‘personal security’ and ‘enhanced computer performance’.

      Windows 7 had several more areas it squirreled away historical information.  I have yet to find their corresponding folders in Win 10 since doing a clean install in December.

      Warning:  for the uninitiated, do a complete system backup to an external drive before attempting any of this.

       

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    • #2247895

      how about also checking the C:\Windows\Logs\CBS folder
      I sometimes see .log files there that may also take up some space that need to be cleaned out from time to time – delete everything there except for cbs.log

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    • #2252023

      Thanks for the tip, EP.  I now have a shortcut on my desktop in the corner with other folders I regularly clean out.

    • #2252070

      TreeSizeFree will search your disk and list directories in order of space use. Then you can trim as needed.

      I’ve used TreeSize Pro for many years and love it.

      Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

    • #2252110

      If you already have CCleaner on your PC (a lot of people do), then under Tools there is a “Disk Analyser” which can be used to list files (with their paths) in decreasing file size. (I imagine other “maintenance suites” such as Glary Utilities or Wise Care will have something similar?) If you want a quick check without downloading and installing something new 🙂

      Disk space saving tip: If like me you do not use Hibernation, then you can save disk space similar to the size of RAM in your PC by switching it off. To do this open a command prompt “run as administrator” and type “powercfg /h off” and <Enter>. This causes a file called “hiberfil.sys” to be deleted. This file is where Windows copies RAM contents to disk before hibernation, so that it can copy this stuff back to RAM after wake-up. In my PC with 8GB RAM, “CCleaner shows “hiberfil.sys” to be 6.6GB and for me this is wasted disk space. Obviously if you use Hibernation you need to leave it switched on and accept “hiberfil.sys” on your disk.

      HTH. Garbo.

       

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      • #2252302

        Garbo continues …

        I should have added that whatever disk analysis tool you use to list files, you should probably make sure that hidden files and folders are displayed beforehand. I haven’t checked this, but thinking about it, it makes sense.

        If your Explorer windows have a Menu Bar go to ‘Tools > Folder Options > View (the middle tab)’ and select the “Show hidden files …’ option. Also temporarily de-select/ untick the “Hide protected operating system files …” option. (If this was previously ticked, then go back and re-tick it again after the disk analysis. I normally “Show Hidden …” and “Hide protected …”.)

        If your Explorer windows have a Ribbon, then there will be another route to reach “Folder Options”. (I use “OldNewExplorer” to restore the Menu Bar in W8.1. and W10, so I do not know the Ribbon settings.)

        BTW: I’m surprised that my W8.1 “hiberfil.sys” file size was only 6.6GB. I thought it was closer to a 1 to 1 relationship with RAM size. Maybe that was true with older versions of Windows, and maybe now they use compression/de-compression when writing to/reading from the file? I don’t know. Whatever its size it is wasted disk space for me.

        HTH. Garbo.

         

        • #2252409

          Garbo continues …

          I should have added that whatever disk analysis tool you use to list files, you should probably make sure that hidden files and folders are displayed beforehand. I haven’t checked this, but thinking about it, it makes sense.

          If your Explorer windows have a Menu Bar go to ‘Tools > Folder Options > View (the middle tab)’ and select the “Show hidden files …’ option. Also temporarily de-select/ untick the “Hide protected operating system files …” option. (If this was previously ticked, then go back and re-tick it again after the disk analysis. I normally “Show Hidden …” and “Hide protected …”.)

          If your Explorer windows have a Ribbon, then there will be another route to reach “Folder Options”. (I use “OldNewExplorer” to restore the Menu Bar in W8.1. and W10, so I do not know the Ribbon settings.)

          I think all disk analysis tools see all hidden and system files anyway, regardless of File Explorer settings.

          BTW: I’m surprised that my W8.1 “hiberfil.sys” file size was only 6.6GB. I thought it was closer to a 1 to 1 relationship with RAM size. Maybe that was true with older versions of Windows, and maybe now they use compression/de-compression when writing to/reading from the file? I don’t know. Whatever its size it is wasted disk space for me.

          HTH. Garbo.

          The default is 75% of RAM size for Windows 7/8/10, because hiberfil.sys is compressed.

    • #2252524

      The size of hiberfil.sys can be set, to some extent (in Win 10 at least).    The /SIZE nn switch sets the size, where nn is a percentage of the total memory size.  I think it can be anything from 40 to 100.

      Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 20H2

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