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Woody’s big Win 7 book says, and I believe I have read it here, that Windows 7 creates a daily restore point.

Not one of my three machines do this, and all are used daily. There is only a restore point if I create one, or when there is a update installed or new software.

What goes?

BJ

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See if System Restore general troubleshooting helps.

Joe

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See if System Restore general troubleshooting helps. Joe

I googled daily restore tonight cause I was curious because I was not getting daily restore points. System Restore can be configured to create restore points at regular intervals. Users can also manually create and name a restore point at any time from within the System Restore user interface. These restore points are saved and compressed, and these choices are available to the user through the System Restore user interface. System Restore in Windows 7 creates a scheduled restore point only if no other restore points have been created in the last 7 days. System Restore in Windows Vista creates a checkpoint every 24 hours if no other restore points were created that day. System Restore in Windows XP creates a checkpoint every 24 hours of absolute time. (I did not check out the link on earlier reply, this might be a repeat)

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Woody’s big Win 7 book says, and I believe I have read it here, that Windows 7 creates a daily restore point. Not one of my three machines do this, and all are used daily. There is only a restore point if I create one, or when there is a update installed or new software.

What goes?BJ

You’re not alone–there are dozens of users (that I’ve found) who are experiencing the same thing, while hearing from other users whose daily restore points are just there, and from some users who’ve had the problem but swear they’ve found a fix for it. I suspect from the extent of the problem reports that there are probably thousands (tens of thousands? hundreds of thousands?) of Win7 users having the same problem who just don’t know it, yet (but will learn the first time they have a system crash and find they don’t have a recent restore point).

I’m one of the ones whose daily restore points haven’t been there since shortly after my initial Win7 install (can’t tell you how exactly soon after, as I didn’t notice the problem for a few months). I’ve tried all of the fixes I’ve found (after hours of pouring through tech forums and blogs), but none have worked for me. My best guess is that there are multiple causes of this problem, and that it would be almost impossible for any of us to guess which one may (or may not) fix yours.

The daily restore point is created by a default Task Scheduler job named System Restore (in the Task Scheduler Library under MicrosoftWindows). If you have the problem, running the job manually won’t create a restore point; running the job command from a DOS command line (aka system console) won’t create a restore point, either. The restore point creation routine is in an executable file named srrstr.dll–apparently it’s either missing an external resource that it needs to complete its task or else another process is running that blocks it from completing its task.

My solution has been just recently dropped in my lap, when I initiated daily file backups using Windows Backup (I had been doing them weekly, but decided that my 1TB backup drive could handle the extra incremental backups). Lo and behold, I just realized that each time Windows Backup runs, it creates a restore point! Voila–daily restore points are back!

Whether this is your solution is up to you–you could spend hours like I did scouring the tech world for an elegant fix, or else just be resigned to the old saying that “Microsoft giveth, and Microsoft taketh away” (or in my case, transpose those).

If you’re determined, however, you could try confirming that your Volume Shadow Copy service startup is set to Automatic–some swear that solved the problem for them (but not for me; can anyone whose daily restore points are being created confirm for us your VSC startup type?). At least that’s one of the easiest proposed solutions to implement, so why not give it a try?

You could also try one solution that Microsoft suggests (in a tech article on their site about troubleshooting system restore problems): Use msconfig to turn off all startup programs, see if that allows srrstr.dll to do its thing, then (if it starts working) iteratively turn on startup programs and restart until you find the one that’s blocking srrstr.dll (then decide which you’d rather live without). I’ve not been able to convince myself that it’s worth the effort to try that one (even before I realized that Backup had already solved my issue).

Anyway, good luck with this, and let us know if you get it fixed (and, if so, how).

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I’ve always had this same problem since I bought this new Win7 computer a year ago. Mine says it should creat a Restore Point every day at startup but it doesn’t. Is it possible that some of our problems are located in the Conditions tab of the Task Scheduler. I know that in my Condition tab it says “Start the task only if the computer is idle for: 10 minutes” and to “Wait for idle for: 23 hours”. These don’t make sense to me, why wait 23 hours. It also has a History tab, mine says its disabled and I can’t find anywhere to turn it on. The following is a nice link showing what I’m talking about. I am not confident enough in understanding this scheduler to make any changes to it. I never use it and what I have now are my default settings. Perhaps one of you wise ones could tell us what the settings should be.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/change-how-often-system-restore-creates-restore-points-in-windows-vista/

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I’ve always had this same problem since I bought this new Win7 computer a year ago. Mine says it should creat a Restore Point every day at startup but it doesn’t. Is it possible that some of our problems are located in the Conditions tab of the Task Scheduler. I know that in my Condition tab it says “Start the task only if the computer is idle for: 10 minutes” and to “Wait for idle for: 23 hours”. These don’t make sense to me, why wait 23 hours. It also has a History tab, mine says its disabled and I can’t find anywhere to turn it on. The following is a nice link showing what I’m talking about. I am not confident enough in understanding this scheduler to make any changes to it. I never use it and what I have now are my default settings. Perhaps one of you wise ones could tell us what the settings should be.

First, to enable the task history (which is helpful when troubleshooting), look in the right-hand pane of the Task Scheduler window, and click on “Enable All Tasks History.” You can disable the history logging later, when you no longer need it (if you so choose).

Second, feel free to deselect all conditions on the Conditions tab of the SystemRestore job–you won’t hurt anything, and it’s possible that it might allow the job to start working. However, as I’ve said before, there appear to be a multitude of reasons why SystemRestore doesn’t work, so don’t be too surprised if this changes nothing.

If you’d rather cut to the chase, rather than monkeying around with all manner of things in Task Scheduler, do the following:

[*]Open Task Scheduler and navigate to the MicrosoftWindowsSystemRestore job; select SystemRestore.
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[*]In the right-hand pane, click on “Properties.”
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[*]In the SR Properties dialog, select the Actions tab.
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[*]Select the “Start a program” action and click on .
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[*]In the Windows Start menu, click on “Run…”
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[*]Copy the contents of the Edit Action’s “Program/script:” and “Add arguments:” fields and paste them (in that order) into the Windows Run dialog’s “Open:” field (don’t forget to put a space between the two clips you’re pasting in), and click .
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[*]Open the System Restore control panel; if you don’t see a new restore point listed under “Recommended restore:,” select the “Choose a different restore point” and click .

If, after all that, you still don’t see a new restore point listed, then something is blocking the functioning of srrstr.dll (see my previous post in this thread for more details), and no amount of fussing around in Task Scheduler is going to get it to run.

Beyond that, you might consider setting up a daily file backup in Windows Backup, as this will also create a daily restore point (and having daily backups is never a bad thing, if you have the disk space to do so). If you do this, just be sure to not select the option to also create a daily system image–that takes quite a bit more disk space, and a daily system image is of questionable value.

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First, to enable the task history (which is helpful when troubleshooting), look in the right-hand pane of the Task Scheduler window, and click on “Enable All Tasks History.” You can disable the history logging later, when you no longer need it (if you so choose).

Second, feel free to deselect all conditions on the Conditions tab of the SystemRestore job–you won’t hurt anything, and it’s possible that it might allow the job to start working. However, as I’ve said before, there appear to be a multitude of reasons why SystemRestore doesn’t work, so don’t be too surprised if this changes nothing.

If you’d rather cut to the chase, rather than monkeying around with all manner of things in Task Scheduler, do the following:

[*]Open Task Scheduler and navigate to the MicrosoftWindowsSystemRestore job; select SystemRestore.
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[*]In the right-hand pane, click on “Properties.”
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[*]In the SR Properties dialog, select the Actions tab.
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[*]Select the “Start a program” action and click on .
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[*]In the Windows Start menu, click on “Run…”
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[*]Copy the contents of the Edit Action’s “Program/script:” and “Add arguments:” fields and paste them (in that order) into the Windows Run dialog’s “Open:” field (don’t forget to put a space between the two clips you’re pasting in), and click .
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[*]Open the System Restore control panel; if you don’t see a new restore point listed under “Recommended restore:,” select the “Choose a different restore point” and click .

If, after all that, you still don’t see a new restore point listed, then something is blocking the functioning of srrstr.dll (see my previous post in this thread for more details), and no amount of fussing around in Task Scheduler is going to get it to run.

Beyond that, you might consider setting up a daily file backup in Windows Backup, as this will also create a daily restore point (and having daily backups is never a bad thing, if you have the disk space to do so). If you do this, just be sure to not select the option to also create a daily system image–that takes quite a bit more disk space, and a daily system image is of questionable value.

there never appears to be sufficient info anywhere for steps 3 &4 above.

this is too common as to almost seem deliberate.
an example from another website:

where do you see proper explanatition of the “actions” tab here? and as ever how can ANYONE complete the settings at all?:::

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/169523-system-restore-task-change-automatic-restore-point-schedule.html

why never any lists of examples of the “details” of the “actions” that will occur that we can copy/paste, or have enough info to do so ourselves?

it’s like this is still a deep dark hidden secret only the holy few are allowed to know,yet it is a vital part of OUR LIVES which is being ruthlessly exploited by malware,viruses,and computer specialists/experts/maintenence people alike.
and therefore should be a perfect topic for a website forum like this one.
or am i breaking some unholy taboo?

awaiting eagerly and hopfefully, thanks all.

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there never appears to be sufficient info anywhere for steps 3 &4 above.

this is too common as to almost seem deliberate.
an example from another website:

where do you see proper explanatition of the “actions” tab here? and as ever how can ANYONE complete the settings at all?:::

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/169523-system-restore-task-change-automatic-restore-point-schedule.html

why never any lists of examples of the “details” of the “actions” that will occur that we can copy/paste, or have enough info to do so ourselves?

it’s like this is still a deep dark hidden secret only the holy few are allowed to know,yet it is a vital part of OUR LIVES which is being ruthlessly exploited by malware,viruses,and computer specialists/experts/maintenence people alike.
and therefore should be a perfect topic for a website forum like this one.
or am i breaking some unholy taboo?

Sorry for not seeing your question sooner.

It’s quite simple, really–this particular Task Scheduler task is a default in Win7 (and apparently in Win8). I didn’t describe the contents of the fields because they’re the same on every Windows 7 or 8 installation in existence unless you’ve previously modified the field contents yourself. So if you just follow my instructions and copy/paste what you find there in the Run box (per steps 5 &6), you should be able to complete your test of of your system’s ability to automatically create restore points in the default configuration. That’s all my procedure was designed to do–help you conduct a test, not fix the problem (if it exists).

If none of that makes sense to you, you’re probably in over your head, and need someone with more technical expertise to run this test for you (and that’s no deep, dark secret, just a fact).

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FYI to everyone: As a result of our discussion, I’ve discovered and tested a utility called System Restore Manager from The Windows Club. IMO, it’s a superior way of managing restore points and system restores compared to Windows 7’s own System Restore control panel.

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Thanks for the great info. Something must be blocking me as I tried you cut to the chase method. I will use the Restore Manager you’ve provided. I appreciate you taking the time to answer and also add this program.

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Well I downloaded and ran it, appears to be working fine as it created a restore point and then when I checked it on the regular Windows restore it shows up there so I’m assuming it’s working. I have it on a desktop shortcut and it’s much easier/quicker than going through control panel etc. We need a guinea pig to see if the restore really works cause I’m chicken:)

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OP here.. just so we’re clear here, I never said “I” couldn’t create a restore point. I do it By the Book via computer properties and it works fine. But Win7 system does not do a daily restore point. Only if new software or update is being installed.

BJ

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Agreed as I said Win 7 is not suppose to have a daily restore (so I read down below) but I sure like the little restore utility, it’s handy on the desktop.

System Restore in Windows 7 creates a scheduled restore point only if no other restore points have been created in the last 7 days.

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Well I downloaded and ran it, appears to be working fine as it created a restore point and then when I checked it on the regular Windows restore it shows up there so I’m assuming it’s working. I have it on a desktop shortcut and it’s much easier/quicker than going through control panel etc. We need a guinea pig to see if the restore really works cause I’m chicken:)

Have no fear–as is the case with most of The Windows Club utilities, the System Restore Manager is simply a better front end to the existing Windows function–you’re getting the same restore point process as if you’d used the button on the System Protection tab of the System Properties control panel.

If you really want to test it, though, here’s a way–all it takes is making a Windows interface tweak:

[*]Create a restore point the “normal” way from the System Properties control panel (just for peace of mind).
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[*]Make one change to your Windows configuration–something simple and obvious, like removing (or adding, as the case may be) Recycle Bin from your desktop.
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[*]Create a restore point using System Restore Manager.
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[*]Make a second change to your Windows configuration (again, keep it obvious).
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[*]Restore your system using the restore point created in step 3.
If everything works OK, and the tweak from step 4 has been reversed, you’re all set–just reverse the tweak from step 2. If you’re not satisfied, continue with step 6.
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[*]Restore your system using the restore point created in step 1.
If the tweak from step 2 has been reversed, you’re back to where you were, with no harm (which is why I included step 2).

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An interesting discussion. However, it seems that, my machine at least, Win 7 is scheduled to set a restore point every day, although at 12:00am when my machine us usually off, and on system startup.:cheers”

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Well I’m running Win 7 64 bit Home premium do you suppose that could be the difference. I don’t have a clue. Below is what I found on a link that I don’t remember I just googled restore point.

System Restore can be configured to create restore points at regular intervals. Users can also manually create and name a restore point at any time from within the System Restore user interface. These restore points are saved and compressed, and these choices are available to the user through the System Restore user interface. System Restore in Windows 7 creates a scheduled restore point only if no other restore points have been created in the last 7 days. System Restore in Windows Vista creates a checkpoint every 24 hours if no other restore points were created that day. System Restore in Windows XP creates a checkpoint every 24 hours of absolute time.

It looks like a can of worms has been opened.

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. I don’t have a clue. Below is what I found on a link that I don’t remember I just googled restore point.
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Since you say you don’t have a clue, and don’t know where you found this, best not to keep repeating it, as the rest of the posters in this thread seem to agree that Win7 is supposed to create a daily restore point, and some of their systems do it and some don’t. Another little MS mystery, I think.

For me, I shall just keep reminding myself to do one every once in a while, just in case I want it.

BJ

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Not a problem, I’m done repeating and in future will keep track of whatever info I put in a reply. That was a stupid play on my part.

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An interesting discussion. However, it seems that, my machine at least, Win 7 is scheduled to set a restore point every day, although at 12:00am when my machine us usually off, and on system startup.:cheers”

That’s how the Task Scheduler job SystemRestore is set up by default, for sure. And the problem isn’t that the job doesn’t run–it does! It’s just that it doesn’t seem to actually create a restore point.

As others have pointed out, though, there’s another factor at work: Windows 7 by default won’t allow the automatic system restore job to create a restore point unless no other restore point has been created for any reason in the previous seven days. However, there’s a registry tweak that can be used (at least allegedly) to modify that time period to any time you’d like. I used it to see if it would make any difference whether the SystemRestore job would actually work.

After confirming that my last restore point was at midnight today, I changed the registry setting RPGlobalInterval to 3600 seconds (1 hour), then manually triggered SystemRestore. With task history enabled, I was able to see that SystemRestore ran and completed (though I had to manually stop it, as has been the case all along). Reopening System Restore Manager, I looked at the restore points list, and…no new restore point.

Just to be absolutely sure, I ran the SystemRestore action from an elevated command line, and…still no new restore point.

So it would seem that the problem isn’t with Window’s system minimum interval for automatic restore point creation using srrstr.dll, either, at least on my system. What continues to puzzle me is why manual restore point creation via System Properties works just fine–is it calling a different executable (not srrstr.dll), or using different command parameters? Still a mystery…

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Some more observations.
Interestingly even though the daily scheduled events are there the Restore Points are not.
It gets better…the log entries show the event kicking off, twice, and one successfully executing!
I created a manual RP just to make sure the process worked and it did see 1st attachment.
I checked my Laptop and the same situation exists with one interesting difference on the trigger for the 12:00:00 daily RP it does not show AM/PM and the spin control just runs from 1:00-12:00-1:00 no AM/PM no 13:00-24:00.:huh:

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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It makes sense to me.

In Windows 7 the system restore task will run as scheduled but will only create a restore point if one has not been created within the past 7 days. I haven’t seen an automatic restore point for quite some time but there are plenty of others created, mainly through Windows Update and the occasional program install.

This does open up another avenue of discussion though, do we really need a daily restore point on what for most of us will be an established and stable system?

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This does open up another avenue of discussion though, do we really need a daily restore point on what for most of us will be an established and stable system?

Personally I think it’s a step forward.

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This does open up another avenue of discussion though, do we really need a daily restore point on what for most of us will be an established and stable system?

Stable systems are stable–until they’re not. When you need to do a system restore after a crash or freeze is when you’ll wish you had a recent restore point. If you’re OK with having to roll back a full week, no problem. Only, what if SystemRestore isn’t really working, and you’ve done nothing else to trigger a restore point (no installs, no use of Windows Backup, etc.)? Can you count on a several-weeks-old restore point to really be what you want (and need)?

Also, be aware that the “Restore previous versions” function that Woody talked about in the newsletter sometime last month works only to the extent that shadow copies are being made. Shadow copies are created only when a restore point is created (for all “protected” partitions, as set in the System Protection tab of the System Properties control panel) or when a partition image is made (for the target partition(s) only; this is done from the Windows 7 “Backup and Restore” control panel). Having a restore point created at least once a day means that you’ll be able to recover daily versions of any file on a protected partition with just a right-click on the current version of that file. Personally, I like that (though some find it to be a major security concern).

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I have found what appears to be the source of NBB’s quote…

MSDN – Restore Points

Therefore not creating a restore point on a daily basis appears to be by design in Windows 7.

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I have found what appears to be the source of NBB’s quote…

MSDN – Restore Points

Therefore not creating a restore point on a daily basis appears to be by design in Windows 7.

Ah HA! Then what we have been told, book-wise and message-wise is not correct…… perhaps MS originally planned it to create restore point daily, but then changed it??

Anyway, I must apologize to NBB for being ‘snarky’.

BJ

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Ah HA! Then what we have been told, book-wise and message-wise is not correct…… perhaps MS originally planned it to create restore point daily, but then changed it??

Anyway, I must apologize to NBB for being ‘snarky’.

BJ

Apology not necessary as it was a learning experience for me, when one does the talk he should also do the walk. Ignorance on my part is a poor excuse.

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The description in steps 3 & 4 above is accurate and easy to follow on my Windows 8.1 system.
What do you think is wrong with the steps?

cheers, Paul

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The description in steps 3 & 4 above is accurate and easy to follow on my Windows 8.1 system.
What do you think is wrong with the steps?

cheers, Paul

i thought i’d mentioned above? no??
well, like all descriptions of how to do this (setting restore dates) there never appears to be any of that code stuff that tells your device what it is resetting for/to.
you know? that scripty code text?
it means in affect that you cant get past the “actions” tab to complete the job without knowing what any of the code/script is. hence my referring to steps 3 & 4.

and, incidentally i use win 7,so it’s possible there may be some differences?

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p.s.
what i mean by this is that perhaps there could be a list of common examples of those codes/scripts or whatever they are called?

incidently, i need to know this since installing,i believe,drivermax – now uninstalled to be on the safe side- and since it was first installed i’v had no restore dates offered but from the same day! as in, if i were to try one right now,i’ll only get restore dates today, not anytime beforte.
it has coincided with my graphics card not operating on full whack, and directx features being invisible to my system. and i dont doubt other things are wrong by certain behaviour i am seeing.

virus?malware? more than likely, but not much i can do till i figure out how to deal with restoring system to prevent having to reformat.
thanks muchly paul,
paul womble dung.

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I don’t use System Restore Points, I make an image backup to an external USB disk and restore that if something goes wrong. It also protects against disk / hardware failure.

cheers, Paul

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I don’t use System Restore Points, I make an image backup to an external USB disk and restore that if something goes wrong. It also protects against disk / hardware failure.

For my 2¢, System Restore is a source of betrayed confidence. There are so many posts in the various threads in these forums (and other forums, as well) of disappearing Restore Points, System Restore unable to complete, lots of Restore Points showing as available, but none will work, etc.

I disable System Restore (why waste the drive space?) and rely on my backup regimen to save my bacon.

Even if you don’t use/trust System Restore (and I can understand why you might not), I’d still encourage you to have System Protection enabled on the partition that contains your data, as this enables Restore Previous Versions for individual files. I find that Restore Previous Versions is the fastest way to restore a file, bar none. If you want a better interface than what Windows provides, use the free Shadow Explorer utility, which allows you to browse the Shadow Copy images that are the basis for both Restore Previous Versions and System Restore.

As for saving drive space, that’s only a concern on old systems with small HDDs and single-disk SSD-based systems. I’d hope that, in all other cases, you’ve got a 1TB or larger HDD for your data. Unless you’re a professional video producer, you should have plenty of space to have System Protection enabled and maintaining at least two week’s worth of Shadow Copy images. Again, this is about quick and easy data recovery, not about restoring your system software (which is another discussion entirely).

Some of us use both. System Restore is typically quicker as a recovery tool although not as extensive as an image restore. It also has the advantage of requiring no user actions. System Restore points are created automatically. I definitely recommend making image backups on a regular basis but see no reason not to use System Restore as well.

If anyone’s interested, I downloaded a couple VBS scripts from a great tech [here or somewhere] and another EXE [from somewhere] System Restore maker. I have used these items – they are aok. I have not been able to successfully get these working well when placed into Task Scheduler, or, into Windows Setup. Seemed to interfere w/smooth OPs.
Are we allowed to attach here? — for those who don’t mind clicking once a day?

BTW, Shadow Copy images are just that–partition-level image files. They’re called “shadow” images because Windows hides them. They are very accurate, and just as good as any image created by a third-party utility. The real problems are the unreliability of the Task Scheduler task that acts as their creation trigger (they don’t always get created automatically, as we’ve discussed in this thread–but there are ways around that, like calling The Windows Club’s free Quick Restore Maker utility in the daily system restore point task instead of the default action) and the limited options for image restore (due to System Restore’s limitations) and image management (which you’d have to learn how to do manually–not everyone’s cup of tea).

As for myself, I find that I can do quite well without using a third-party imaging tool (but I also would prefer to drive a car with a manual transmission and shift for myself :^_^:).

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Some of us use both. System Restore is typically quicker as a recovery tool although not as extensive as an image restore. It also has the advantage of requiring no user actions. System Restore points are created automatically. I definitely recommend making image backups on a regular basis but see no reason not to use System Restore as well.

Jerry

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For my 2¢, System Restore is a source of betrayed confidence. There are so many posts in the various threads in these forums (and other forums, as well) of disappearing Restore Points, System Restore unable to complete, lots of Restore Points showing as available, but none will work, etc.

I disable System Restore (why waste the drive space?) and rely on my backup regimen to save my bacon.

As always, YMMV

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For my 2¢, System Restore is a source of betrayed confidence. There are so many posts in the various threads in these forums (and other forums, as well) of disappearing Restore Points, System Restore unable to complete, lots of Restore Points showing as available, but none will work, etc.

I disable System Restore (why waste the drive space?) and rely on my backup regimen to save my bacon.

As always, YMMV

Bruce, you hardly ever hear about the many System Restore that work. In my own PC repair experience, I see many more successful System Restores than ones that fail. I would say about 9 to 1. As for the drive space, today’s drives are so large that it really isn’t much of a factor. Most of the PCs I run across are 60 to 70 per cent empty and very few of them have any temp file cleanup regimen. Even my 256 gig SSD is 70% empty. You can also control the amount of free space System Restore takes up.

Would I ever completely rely on System Restore as my backup? Certainly not. But I’m glad that Microsoft has it as an extra tool personally and I take advantage of it. And it has helped in several cases where a client has never heard of imaging. As I said before, its greatest asset is that it requires no user interaction. With image backups, you need the discipline to manually perform them and to manage backup disk space.

But these are personal computers. We all do what we are comfortable. What works for you doesn’t work for me and vice versa.

Jerry

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If anyone’s interested, I downloaded a couple VBS scripts from a great tech [here or somewhere] and another EXE [from somewhere] System Restore maker. I have used these items – they are aok. I have not been able to successfully get these working well when placed into Task Scheduler, or, into Windows Setup. Seemed to interfere w/smooth OPs.
Are we allowed to attach here? — for those who don’t mind clicking once a day?

"Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee." Ben Franklin, revisted

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If anyone’s interested, I downloaded a couple VBS scripts from a great tech [here or somewhere] and another EXE [from somewhere] System Restore maker. I have used these items – they are aok. I have not been able to successfully get these working well when placed into Task Scheduler, or, into Windows Setup. Seemed to interfere w/smooth OPs.
Are we allowed to attach here? — for those who don’t mind clicking once a day?

i’d love a system restore maker!
i actually REALLY need one as i cant restore farther back than one day, and cant afford to reformat, or the amount of discs or external memory it would take to back all files up.

please do contact me if or when you can with details?
thank you, paul womble dung.

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