I’ve always figured they’re both pretty much the same, with the obvious licensing differences, but… this note from ch100: I am trying to find which
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Differences between Windows 10 Education and Enterprise?
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ch100
AskWoody_MVPDecember 11, 2016 at 1:37 pm #19322This is what I figured out so far.
1. Cortana is missing (or it is disabled) in the EDU version. Does anybody understand exactly how this is done? I can tell that it is not done in policy.
2. There is something called Content Delivery Manager which is implemented differently in the EDU edition. I think most or all of the settings can be configured in ENT to emulate the EDU behaviour in the few Group Policies under:
Computer ConfigurationAdministrative TemplatesWindows ComponentsCloud Content
and
User ConfigurationAdministrative TemplatesWindows ComponentsCloud Content
Does anybody have a better understanding of the actual configuration? I think it is related to the Lock Screen and what advertising appears there.3. Few registry keys which are only related to licensing and version description with no functional impact
Anything else seems to be identical in the EDU and ENT editions.
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ch100
AskWoody_MVPDecember 11, 2016 at 3:08 pm #19323I have just found a Group Policy bug, in wording at least. I don’t know if it is known, it should because it refers to something which is of interest to a lot of people, but mentioning it anyway.
Computer ConfigurationAdministrative TemplatesWindows ComponentsStore
The settings Disable all apps from Windows Store has the desired effect by setting it to Disabled, not to Enabled as it is natural. It is in the description, but it is not intuitive at all. -
BobbyB
GuestDecember 11, 2016 at 3:46 pm #19324That pretty much sums it up, 1607 Edu runs well here in a VHD. No Cortana which is a bonus (which I neither want nor need) the GPOL works fine appart from the hide lock screen is a bit unpredictable often delivering a blank Logon screen. Telemetry can be set to basic aparently the side notes refer to “setting a value of 0 or 1 has the same effect and 0 can only be set in enterprise ver. Being in a Home enviroment appearence can occasionally trump functionality ie setting logon screen background, removing the lock screen. Theres the usual adv. features such as Hyper-V and “windows to go” which seldom get used at home. All in all Edu is a quite acceptable ver of 1607. As for Ent i only worked with it for about a week in the 1511 ver but as always with Ent vers its a little slower i found no doubt due to the enhanced security in there slowing stuff down (not immediatly perceivble). Ultimately, almost, configurable to your tastes but way out of the pockets, inclination, of the average user. Edu can be had from the Win10 upgrades/vers page (blue upgrade button) but it req. a bit of work (no nothing underhand in case your wondering!)
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ch100
AskWoody_MVPDecember 11, 2016 at 6:35 pm #19327And one more which is useful in both – relates to what I said earlier about Content Delivery Manager and BobbyB’s post about telemetry set on 0 messing up the Lock Screen:
Computer ConfigurationAdministrative TemplatesWindows ComponentsPersonalization
Do not display the lock screen set to EnabledThis one is really annoying on a non-tablet machine and cannot not be resolved from the GUI.
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BobbyB
GuestDecember 12, 2016 at 12:40 am #19329heres a little “snippet” from GPOL settings which amy be of interest Win10Edux64.
gpedit.msc>Administrative Templates>Windows Components>Data Collection & Preview>Disable pre-release features or settings
“This policy setting determines the level that Microsoft can experiment with the product to study user preferences or device behavior. A value of 1 permits Microsoft to configure device settings only. A value of 2 allows Microsoft to conduct full experimentations.
If you disable this policy setting, all experimentations will be turned off.
If you do not configure this policy setting, user can configure the “Let Microsoft try features on this build” option in Settings.”
Only cant see this in settings and the policy isnt numbered just full exp. or device settings.
Ohh and you can get Edu you need the Win10 .iso maker/creator just not on the web page I quoted. oops !
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ch100
AskWoody_MVPDecember 12, 2016 at 1:46 pm #19332Windows-to-Go can be built with Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/The other 2 features are really not mainstream and have no place in retail editions, although it can be argued that AppLocked could be useful. The old style Software Restriction Policies offer an alternative to AppLocker.
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BobbyB
GuestDecember 12, 2016 at 3:09 pm #19333My thoughts exactly but with out being in the programme I wasnt sure. If its an upgrade to the test version wouldnt that bring, in its self, a fresh GPOL? or does that persist from the previous build? If its a clean install then surely that would bring a “fresh” GPOL along with it.
It was the vague wording i suppose that sort of didnt ring true but your probably right. Its probably a “stock” software package just thrown in there (sort of a one size fits all) after all theres references about Cortana in settings and GPOL even though that version doesent have M$s talkative assistant. -
ch100
AskWoody_MVPDecember 12, 2016 at 5:19 pm #19334I think that policy stays because it can block managed users from moving to the Insider Track.
It should be equivalent to the GUI setting. There is an Enterprise Insider track separate to a certain extent from the mainstream one, but essentially the same. Education is very much Enterprise and if you read one of my posts above, I actually asked if anyone knows how Cortana is disabled or removed from the Education edition. It may be fully implemented, but only “hidden” in the EDU Edition. -
abbodi86
GuestDecember 12, 2016 at 6:54 pm #19335Education is the highest edition for upgrade in Windows 10
i.e. you can upgrade Home/Pro/Enterprise to Educationan it’s compared or have similarities with Enterprise LTSB edition
Cortana, Content Delivery Manager, Telemetry level, Update Group are all determined by Product Policy, which is controlled and protected by kernel
that’s why some registry tweaks has no affects in certain cases
Cortana still exist in Education (and Server 2016) editions, but is disabledto better understand and view these policies for Education as example, check:
E:WindowsSystem32spptokensskusEducationEducation-ppdlic.xrm-msand here’s article to describe differences in Education editions
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/edu/windows/windows-editions-for-education-customers
note: Windows 10 Pro Education was never released as separate edition, it can be only activated on Pro edition with the appropiate license/key -
BobbyB
GuestDecember 12, 2016 at 9:15 pm #19336Yeah thx for that well we have ADK Windows SIM at work if i get time i may well have a “paw” though a win10 image never run it on 10 before (and its my least favourite tool sure they could have mede it simpler) well next year they plan to roll out Win10 so it may well be good to get ahead of the game.
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ch100
AskWoody_MVPDecember 13, 2016 at 2:25 am #19337Excellent abbodi86! Thanks, this is exactly what I was after when sending the original email to Woody. 🙂
The protected area is the same area which does not allow Windows 32-bit to go above 4GB, in practice a bit less and to be on the safe side Microsoft claims 3GB. I think I should go back and read more of this stuff on MDL, but there is still a lot missing. 🙁
And to be more clear, I was never referring to Pro Education but “Enterprise” Education, which is a release and an ISO by itself.
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