• E-mail headers in outlook 2010

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    I now report spam received routinely – ALWAYS – via SpamCop.net.

    This requires me to post the MIME e-Mail header, and the e-Mail text, in separate boxes, for analysis by SpamCop. With Gmail, I have not discovered a way to find the e-Mail header other than to open the mail in Outlook, then clicking on Properties to throw up the Properties window.

    I read that simply opening a mail can expose me to payloads in the mail:
    Do I expose myself to any significant risk by opening mail in this way?
    Is there any way in Outlook to extract the MIME header WITHOUT opening the mail?

    Of my two mail accounts, one is with Zen (UK mail and domain hosting service), where their webmail allows me – I think – to extract the header for copy-and-paste without actually opening the mail. My other mail account is with GMail, where I cannot see how to get the mail header without opening the message.

    Am I worrying unnecessarily? Only the paranoid survive.

    Dell E5570 Latitude, Intel Core i5 6440@2.60 GHz, 8.00 GB - Win 10 Pro

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    • #1593461

      If you are in Outlook, you can open a new email to SpamCop, then drag the unopened spam email into the text area of the new email, thereby attaching the entire spam email to the new email. Doing it this way will put the needed header info into the new email, without your having to open the spam email.

      If you can access any of your email accounts via Outlook, you will be able to utilize the above method for those accounts.

      I don’t blame you for not wanting to open the spam email. I wouldn’t want to open it either.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
      • #1593467

        If you are in Outlook, you can open a new email to SpamCop, then drag the unopened spam email into the text area of the new email, thereby attaching the entire spam email to the new email. Doing it this way will put the needed header info into the new email, without your having to open the spam email.

        If you can access any of your email accounts via Outlook, you will be able to utilize the above method for those accounts.

        I don’t blame you for not wanting to open the spam email. I wouldn’t want to open it either.

        This is what SpamCop says about attaching the spam; https://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/122.html

        Thusly, if you are running Outlook you *may not* forward your spams as an attachment for processing. You can copy/paste or look into running mailwasher or some other 3rd party add-in/add-on but you must stop forwarding as an attachment.

        At the bottom of the linked page they do offer some suggestions using 3rd party tools.

      • #1593488

        Jim – I think that I tried this, and got an error back from SpamCop, but I’ll try again.

        You wouldn’t believe how many blocked deposits in my name are standing in the Bank of Benin, or somewhere similar!

        Thank you.

        Dell E5570 Latitude, Intel Core i5 6440@2.60 GHz, 8.00 GB - Win 10 Pro

    • #1593491

      On my last job, the anti-spam people told us to attach the spam email just as I told you to do, in order to preserve the header information, and also, I believe, so that you wouldn’t have to open the email and risk getting infected.

      I disagree with the way SpamCop is doing things. They need to make their system accommodate spam email attachments, so that a user doesn’t have to open the emails.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
    • #1593493

      Jim – what I think did not work for me once before was forwarding the spam mail to the SpamCop [submit] address; dragging the unopened message into a new mail window did work – important distinction – then, there is a mail back from SpamCop with a link to click to actually report the spam to the offending/unfortunate ISP. A bit clunky!

      And, yes, I agree on the subject of spam (and possibly infected) attachments.

      Are there other, better, options for reporting spam?

      Dell E5570 Latitude, Intel Core i5 6440@2.60 GHz, 8.00 GB - Win 10 Pro

      • #1593494

        Are there other, better, options for reporting spam?

        You could use a non-Microsoft email client, then you avoid the header obfuscation and can forward the spam directly to SpamCop.

        I’ve been dealing with this for years and yes it’s a pain to manually copy header and content info into SpamCop’s web based reporting tool or any of the alternate methods for reporting email via Outlook.

        • #1593855

          Are there other, better, options for reporting spam?

          You could use a non-Microsoft email client, then you avoid the header obfuscation and can forward the spam directly to SpamCop.

          If your email is setup as IMAP, you could use both Outlook and some other email program together. No need to stop using Outlook just for this. But that wouldn’t work if it was POP3.

          Group "L" (Linux Mint)
          with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
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