Google Broke Microsoft Outlook 2019

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My first question is how can I combine all of my Inbox mail into one account inside Outlook?

At first I was thinking that Outlook 2019 was having problems with a new firewall. Nope. Now that I started hunting around here, I see that the the new Google Mail server authentication problems Outlook 2019 is having are of Google’s doing. The long story short for me is that by instead using IMAP for my (former) POP mail, Outlook 2019 is now happy only with IMAP.

I’d be OK with all of this except for a cascade of vital things. When using IMAP inside Outlook 2019, it..

a. creates a new (.ost) mailbox inside Outlook, instead of using the default (.pst) Inbox for my existing inbound/outbound mail, and puts e-mail in a separate mailbox, and causes me extra work in hunting and sending and filing the e-mails, and 

b. I have AutoMate filters set up to automatically distribute all Inbox mail into the correct folders. Outlook’s interactions with Google’s new policies breaks that, and

c. It also breaks all of my Outlook very thoughtfully planned and executed back-up strategies.

So, how can I combine all of my Inbox mail into one account inside Outlook? Thank you for your help!

 

Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

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Downside of IMAP in this case and Outlook not having a unified inbox. You’d have to set up a rule in Outlook to copy messages received from google imap account to the inbox in your main .pst.

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Mr. Austin

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And, then I’d have to set up new, automatic Outlook rules as messages are sent from the Google IMAP account, and those Outlook rules would place all the sent mail into the main POP folder in Outlook.

And then I’d have to also run all the existing AutoMate rules to automatically file everything in their proper, existing Outlook folders.

As I think this through, since I care not one whit about using Google Mail, maybe I might just migrate out of Google IMAP into my ISP’s POP. The rest of my (five) other e-mail addresses are already served that way. And I access them through Apple mail on an iOS device. And then, when those POP mails are downloaded to their mothership Outlook 2019 client, I have full unified Inbox and folder control. *If* I did that, I’d also have the advantage of taking my mail away from Google’s surveillance capitalisms’ eyes.

Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

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In sleeping on this, I’ll be switching away from Google Mail’s MX servers to those of my ISP. That will solve my POP vs. IMAP problems inside Outlook, and I will continue to have control of my e-mail, and it will continue to be stored (and backed-up) locally, as has been done since around the year 2K.

Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

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GoneToPlaid

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Current Thunderbird email client can use oauth to use a gmail account by pop.

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Thank you. The last time I looked at mail clients, when I switched from Outlook 2010 to Outlook 2019, I considered Thunderbird and other popular mail clients. It came down to my familiarity with Outlook, the AutoMate rules manager I’m used to, and that I would have had to learn Thunderbird without dedicated support if I painted myself into a corner. So I instead bought perpetual, Microsoft Office client licenses for a one-time cost for the machines I use.

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What I believe is that Google has disabled their “allow less secure apps” option but I have not found anything that states that they will disable allowing login with an app password.  I hope I am correct because I currently use an email client that is not OAuth 2.0 capable.  Does anyone confidently know whether app passwords will continue to be supported?

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I have heard that gmail app password logins will require 2FA – 2 factor authorization.  Not confident, but does that mean you would need to click your phone also?  Only oauth would work without 2FA.

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I use the free MailStore app to log into my Gmail account and backup all mail to my PC.
No 2FA needed.

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Good idea, that. If I ever re-configure my mail access and backups I’ll aim to remember that. Merci.

Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

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Googles 2FA only applies to logins to your Google account.  Interestingly, you must enable 2FA on your Google account in order to use their app password functionality.

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anonymous wrote:

Googles 2FA only applies to logins to your Google account

Never needed 2FA for logging into my Google account. The same for 3rd party apps which I gave permission to access my Gmail account.

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