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    Oh joy. Been having issues for awhile now. Finally got a testing program to actually work to test the system drive and it’s shows the drive as failing (SMART). I’ve ordered a new drive and it should be here in a couple days. OK, this box is a few years old (4) and came with 8 installed. Which I upgraded to 8.1 and then to 10. It just updated to the anniversary edition.

    From what I understand, I have to download the iso from Microsoft for the anniversary edition of 10 and burn that to a cd. Then install the new drive and boot and install Windows to the new drive. Here’s the rub. Do I have to use a registration number beings as I’m replacing the system drive? And if so, would the original OEM number that came with this box work?

    I miss the actual install media (like XP). And I hope I don’t fugg this up because my brain is currently thick as mud.

    BTW, drive is a Seagate and I’m not replacing it with a Seagate.

    TIA

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    • #1580210

      Is the drive still working? If so make an image to restore to the new drive.

    • #1580211

      I ran both sfc /scannow and dism on the drive. Both found errors and both said that they couldn’t repair the errors. If there were no errors, I would just run a Reflect backup and install that.

    • #1580226

      Install the new drive along side the old one. Clone the old drive to the new one and then remove the old drive. Job done. No re-imaging or re-registration required. Use the free version of Drive Clone.

      http://www.farstone.com/software/drive-clone.php

      .

    • #1580250

      If the drive is about to fail make an image backup immediately even if there are errors in SFC and DISM. That way if it dies before you get it cloned you’ve got something to fall back on.

      --Joe

    • #1580270

      I have no extra cables. Not one to plug into the motherboard/drive (data) or one for power. And I don’t see one on Best Buy’s website. I’m seeing sata to usb. Didn’t see one on Newegg’s site either.

      Would a drive image work? Or does it have to be cloned? I have 2 externals (usb) and a flash drive. I’ve used the flash drive for imaging with Macrium (until it had a meltdown, program not drive). It has a boot option.

      • #1580272

        Would a drive image work? Or does it have to be cloned?

        An image would certainly be acceptable. Cloning isn’t necessary. Macrium Reflect should do the trick.

        Image or Clone often! Backup, backup, backup, backup......
        - - - - -
        Home Built: Windows 10 Home 64-bit, AMD Athlon II X3 435 CPU, 16GB RAM, ASUSTeK M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3 (AM3) motherboard, 512GB SanDisk SSD, 3 TB WD HDD, 1024MB ATI AMD RADEON HD 6450 video, ASUS VE278 (1920x1080) display, ATAPI iHAS224 Optical Drive, integrated Realtek HD Audio

    • #1580281

      If your account is a registered instead of a local account you should be able to just install and it will activate as your machine is registered in your account. I have reinstalled win 10 on several machines and it activated without any numbers needed but you must have a Microsoft account.
      Ron

    • #1580287

      Aomei Backupper is free and will create an image and allow you to restore. It also does backup well.
      The best backup location is an external USB disk.

      cheers, Paul

    • #1580303

      Yes, my account is a Microsoft one, not local. I downloaded/installed the one Calimanco suggested but it wouldn’t show the flash drive as an option. I also didn’t see a way to add a boot menu (I could’ve missed that, major brainfarts. lol)

      Ug, now shutting off legacy boot (what a pia). And with the way 10 boots, getting into safe mode is 10x worse than pulling teeth.

      This is going to be an adventure I’m not looking forward to.

    • #1580319

      How to get into Safe Mode (Windows 10):

      Two ways:

      1.
      msconfig / boot / safe boot

      This will cause Windows 10 to boot into Safe Mode every time.
      (To get back into regular mode, you’ll need to uncheck Safe Boot while in Safe Mode.)

      2.
      Start
      Power
      Restart (while holding shift key)
      Troubleshoot
      Advanced Options
      Startup Settings
      Restart
      The following screen will appear. Pick one of the Safe Mode options.

      Startup Settings
      Press a number to choose from the options below:
      Use number keys or function keys F1-F9.
      1) Enable debugging
      2) Enable boot logging
      3) Enable low-resolution video
      4) Enable Safe Mode
      5) Enable Safe Mode with Networking
      6) Enable Safe Mode with Command Prompt

      7) Disable driver signature enforcement
      8) Disable early launch anti-malware protection
      9) Disable automatic restart after failure

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
    • #1580365

      Big question I forgot to ask. New drive won’t be formatted. So when I go to install the image, is that going to cause a problem? Plus, when it boots, there won’t be the option of booting from the OS or Macrium.

      • #1580374

        Big question I forgot to ask. New drive won’t be formatted. So when I go to install the image, is that going to cause a problem? Plus, when it boots, there won’t be the option of booting from the OS or Macrium.

        Good question. Here’s the answer: The image will contain the formatting information, so you don’t have to worry about formatting the new drive ahead of time. As far as booting the computer before putting the image on, I advise you to make the Macrium emergency boot disk (a CD or DVD) and then boot with that. You will boot into a Windows-like environment, from which you can select the image and do the restore to the new drive.

        I have been more successful when I boot with the emergency boot disk and then do a restore, than when I boot into Windows, run Macrium, and then do the restore.

        Group "L" (Linux Mint)
        with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
    • #1580375

      If the new disk is an SSD you need to use the “restore target is SSD” option.
      http://windowssecrets.com/forums/showthread//173251-Advice-for-moving-to-SSD-from-SATA?p=1034656&viewfull=1#post1034656

      cheers, Paul

    • #1580383

      No, it’s not an SSD.&%*@!! I guess my lunch has been packed. I hereby throw in the towel, the dysthymia has won. to the dumpster!

    • #1580418

      Paul didn’t say “only if it’s an SSD”! It works the same whether the replacement is an SSD or HDD but if it were an SSD then you’d want to ‘restore target as SSD’ within your imaging restore program. And, of course, that restore program has to be on a CD (or thumb drive perhaps?) so you can boot it.

      Image or Clone often! Backup, backup, backup, backup......
      - - - - -
      Home Built: Windows 10 Home 64-bit, AMD Athlon II X3 435 CPU, 16GB RAM, ASUSTeK M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3 (AM3) motherboard, 512GB SanDisk SSD, 3 TB WD HDD, 1024MB ATI AMD RADEON HD 6450 video, ASUS VE278 (1920x1080) display, ATAPI iHAS224 Optical Drive, integrated Realtek HD Audio

      • #1580659

        Paul didn’t say “only if it’s an SSD”! It works the same whether the replacement is an SSD or HDD but if it were an SSD then you’d want to ‘restore target as SSD’ within your imaging restore program. And, of course, that restore program has to be on a CD (or thumb drive perhaps?) so you can boot it.

        Sorry, I’ve been in a perpetual 10 month brainfart. :p

    • #1580572

      What should be pointed out is that most SSDs are GPT, not MBR. This makes formatting and cloning and image restoring a bit trickier. Nothing Macrium Reflect Free and its WinPE10 environment can’t handle, but a bit intimidating if you weren’t expecting the changes. Also, UEFI Fast Boot means not only the C:Windows Partition, but several other Partitions must be cloned at the same time to produce a bootable disk. Again, nothing Macrium Reflect can’t easily handle.

      Aomei has the advantage that it is part of an integrated extended WinPE environment. If your PC has lots of RAM and your flash drive is big enough, a very decent rescue environment can be created in Aomei. (WinPE has limitations based on how much data it can fit into RAM.)

      -- rc primak

    • #1580658

      When I do the backup with Reflect, I backup all the partitions.

    • #1580845

      Only 10 months, mine has been ongoing for years. 🙂

      cheers, Paul

      • #1580852

        Only 10 months, mine has been ongoing for years. 🙂

        cheers, Paul

        Yeah, but the beginning stage of this baby began 20yrs ago.

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