I did what you said (and per what I found in an IT article by Bill Husted) and this is how the SYSOC.INF file reads: msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,7 (this was copied & pasted verbatim)
Messenger does not appear in add/remove programs area nor the Windows components area.
Please advise
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How To Remove MSN Messenger Service from Win XP (W
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AskWoody LoungerApril 26, 2002 at 5:30 am #370141Viewing 3 reply threadsAuthorReplies-
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AskWoody LoungerApril 26, 2002 at 3:29 pm #584746To uninstall Windows Messenger, click Start | Run and type exactly as it is (or copy and paste it):
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%INFmsmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
and hit Enter.
For this and other tweaks see
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AskWoody LoungerApril 26, 2002 at 5:03 pm #584766Nancy, your original post showed how to make Messenger appear in the Add/Remove programs list. Kaplin’s tip is an alternate method that completely obliterates the application, regardless of whether or not it appears in Add/Remove Programs. My experience has been that the second method works better, because Messenger would occasionally “appear” even though it had been “uninstalled.” Good ole Redmond. I’m so glad that they decided to foist their program on me and make it all but impossible for the average person to escape from.
Regarding Outlook, Messenger is integrated into Outlook 2002/XP, but that functionality can be disabled and no slowdown results. To disable Messenger in Outlook 2002, click on Tools — Options and then click on the Other tab. There is a checkbox to “enable instant messaging in Microsoft Outlook” – if you clear that checkbox, the slowdown at program launch goes away. Now, if fixing all the other quirks in Outlook were that easy!!!!
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AskWoody LoungerJanuary 6, 2004 at 1:30 pm #764482Ah, I see from your poetry that the spirit of McGonagall still lives!
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AskWoody LoungerJanuary 6, 2004 at 1:30 pm #764483Ah, I see from your poetry that the spirit of McGonagall still lives!
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AskWoody LoungerSeptember 25, 2002 at 11:54 pm #620050Bruce,
I also didn’t see it in the addremove list after going through the sysoc.inf bit, but I clicked on the addremove windows COMPONENTS block to the left of the list and there was messenger showing up in two places, one apparently for the main and the other for the start menu location. I unchecked both and goodbye messenger, but the checkbox is still there if I ever wanted to reinstall it, (why I don’t know, but it’s there)
Check it out.
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WSHoward Kaikow
AskWoody LoungerJanuary 4, 2004 at 7:39 am #620085Bob–
This tiphere from Doug Knox and other sources works well with a simple command in the run box and a regedit to kill messenger, and it’s in Add/Remove but never rears it’s head. Also, messenger can be easily downloaded again if it’s stopped from running this way. Have used it on XP installs a couple times. I also tried renaming the file when that tip showed up on Tech TV a couple months ago, but couldn’t get that tip to work.
There are a number of threads on the lounge concerning the removal of messenger, but paradoxically Redmond has decided to charge for MSN 8 in October with added features first proposed in “Hailstorm” as a component of the release of MSN 5.defrag
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AskWoody MVPSeptember 26, 2002 at 6:40 pm #620242defrag, If you read further there will be a free and paid version. The paid version having supposedly enhanced features – those will be some of the ‘hailstorm’ features. MSN 8 will be along the same lines. Some of the current freely avilavble MSN features will only be available to paying customers. Plus some will be added.
Joe
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WSHoward Kaikow
AskWoody LoungerSeptember 27, 2002 at 8:15 am #620289Joe–
That’s what I meant when “MSN8 as a component of MSN5” although you’ve got to admit, having MSN8 as a component of MSN5 vies in a Redmond Confusability Quotient Ratio with the KB on how to tell which version of IE you have. It will be interesting to see if the paid features will be enough to make Messenger for Money a runaway hit.
I did notice on Paul Thurott’s WinInfo the MSN 8 Announcement and at C-Net News. with some of the features offered. I also noticed that
XP is getting Bluetooth support.defrag
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joep517
AskWoody MVPSeptember 26, 2002 at 6:46 pm #620244Bruce, Did you re-boot after you made the changes? If you had gone to add/remove progams before making the changes to the file it may have been cached and XP would not have used the updated version. Also, since MS claims messenger is a part of Windows is would only appear as a Windows component not in the regular add/remove programs. If you have Sp-1 applied you should be able to use the ‘set program access and defaults’ to hide messenger. I know that won’t remove it but at least it shouldn’t bug you.
Joe
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AskWoody LoungerJanuary 3, 2004 at 9:07 pm #584671Edited by WyllyWylly to remove whitespace and make the post more legible.[/size]
HI ALL: SOME PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE MSN MESSENGER SERVICE THAT POPS UP WITH XP AND THAT NO ONE CAN DELETE. I STUMBLED ON TO THIS WHILE READING ONE OF MY SUBSCRIPTION. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED HERE IS HOW.
A lot of people want to know how to remove the MSN Messenger service from XP… here’s how:
Locate SYSOC.INF in the WindowsINF folder (hidden file and folder), Open it in Notepad and locate the line:
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7
Remove the word “hide” from the line and save the file.
You will now have an entry in add/remove programs. Do what you willOR
(XP Pro Only) leave it installed, but tell Windows to never let it run. If you’re running XP Professional, you can use GPEDIT.MSC to prevent Messenger from loading.
Otherwise, even disabling it in startup won’t cause it to “always” not run.NOTE: Outlook, Outlook Express and some Microsoft web pages can still make it load.
Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Messenger
You can now modify whether it starts initially and/or whether it’s to run at all. UPDATE: I have recieved some email that say this fix slows down outlook when starting, that is because Outlook wants to start messenger when it starts, the easiest and fastest way to disable messenger and still have a quick start time with outlook is to rename the exe file, located here c:program filesmessengermsmsgs.exe, to something other than msmsgs.exe, such as msmsgsnew.exe.http://www.tipsdr.com/windows-xp-tips.html%5B/url%5D
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