![]() |
Patch reliability is unclear, but widespread attacks make patching prudent. Go ahead and patch, but watch out for potential problems. |
SIGN IN | Not a member? | REGISTER | PLUS MEMBERSHIP |
-
Internet Explorer dies another of its countless small deaths
Home » Forums » AskWoody support » Windows » Windows 10 » Windows 10 version 22H2 » Internet Explorer dies another of its countless small deaths
- This topic has 19 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 1 year, 8 months ago.
AuthorTopicbbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 14, 2023 at 9:59 am #2534294Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users".Viewing 7 reply threadsAuthorReplies-
EP
AskWoody_MVPFebruary 14, 2023 at 1:21 pm #2534344just only on most Windows 10 editions, except LTSC where IE continues to work there
and on the other hand, IE is NOT dead when MS released this kb5022835 update for certain Server & windows embedded OSes.
-
bbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 14, 2023 at 2:52 pm #2534394just only on most Windows 10 editions, except LTSC where IE continues to work there and on the other hand, IE is NOT dead when MS released this kb5022835 update for certain Server & windows embedded OSes.
I read the article.
No, it won’t. IE can be removed. Maybe in Windows 12.
Like I said above, I read the article.
“Internet Explorer still has some small deaths to die. The “visual references” to the app will remain in Windows 10 until they’re removed by a security update circa June of 2023, according to Microsoft’s support document. And Internet Explorer will remain accessible on Windows Server, non-consumer versions of Windows 10 like the Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) versions of Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 IoT, and Windows 7 and 8 (which are no longer being supported with new security updates or Edge versions as of last month).
And the underlying MSHTML rendering engine will continue to be included as part of Microsoft Edge’s IE compatibility mode, which will be supported until “at least 2029.” Microsoft says it will give users a year’s notice before retiring IE mode, so it could be nearly a decade before the zombified corpse of Internet Explorer finally stops twitching.”
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users".
-
Alex5723
AskWoody PlusFebruary 14, 2023 at 1:26 pm #2534349Microsoft will forcibly remove Internet Explorer from most Windows 10 PCs today
No, it won’t.
IE can’t be removed. Maybe in Windows 12.-
bbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 15, 2023 at 8:52 am #2534625No, it won’t. IE can’t be removed. Maybe in Windows 12.
“Microsoft never shipped any version of Internet Explorer in Windows 11, so nothing will change if you’re already running Microsoft’s latest OS.”
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users". -
Cybertooth
AskWoody PlusFebruary 15, 2023 at 12:34 pm #2534686It’s an odd, in-between sort of state. On my Windows 11 22H2 machine, there are .EXE files named iexplore.exe in the right places under both Program Files and Program Files (x86). They’re even approximately the same size as Internet Explorer in Windows 7. But then clicking on either of these .EXE files results in Edge being opened.
-
bbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 15, 2023 at 1:40 pm #2534718But then clicking on either of these .EXE files results in Edge being opened.
I get this:
Opening it up and looking at its innards I found the xml file:
<?xml version=”1.0″ encoding=”UTF-8″ standalone=”yes”?>
<!– Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation –>
<!– Note: This manifest needs to be kept in sync with iexplore.exe.manifest –>
<assembly xmlns=”urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1″ manifestVersion=”1.0″><assemblyIdentity version=”5.1.0.0″
processorArchitecture=”x86″
name=”Microsoft.InternetExplorer”
type=”win32″/><description>Internet Explorer</description>
<application xmlns=”urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3″>
<windowsSettings>
</windowsSettings>
</application>
<compatibility xmlns=”urn:schemas-microsoft-com:compatibility.v1″>
<application>
<!–This Id value indicates the application supports Windows Vista/Server 2008 functionality –>
<supportedOS Id=”{e2011457-1546-43c5-a5fe-008deee3d3f0}”/>
<!–This Id value indicates the application supports Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 functionality–>
<supportedOS Id=”{35138b9a-5d96-4fbd-8e2d-a2440225f93a}”/>
<!–This Id value indicates the application supports Windows 8/Server 2012 functionality–>
<supportedOS Id=”{4a2f28e3-53b9-4441-ba9c-d69d4a4a6e38}”/>
<!– This Id value indicates the application supports Windows Blue/Server 2012 R2 functionality–>
<supportedOS Id=”{1f676c76-80e1-4239-95bb-83d0f6d0da78}”/>
<!– This Id value indicates the application supports Windows Threshold functionality–>
<supportedOS Id=”{8e0f7a12-bfb3-4fe8-b9a5-48fd50a15a9a}”/>
</application>
</compatibility>
</assembly>Looks like it isn’t supported in Windows 11.
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users". -
Cybertooth
AskWoody PlusFebruary 15, 2023 at 4:29 pm #2534809Wow, check this out!
So I’ve managed to launch IE 11 (instructions are given at the URL shown in the background), but it will briefly load a requested page, then come back with the error, “We were unable to return you to xxx.yyy.”There may be some way to get around this issue but it will take some digging. For now, I’m just astonished that IE does, in fact, seem to be present on Windows 11. My understanding was that it was simply not present, except for “IE mode” in Edge.
-
-
-
geekdom
AskWoody_MVPFebruary 14, 2023 at 3:06 pm #2534401Query: in your opinion, would Internet Explorer sudden death be a better option over the long-term lingering fade out?
On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender-
bbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 14, 2023 at 5:40 pm #2534444Query: in your opinion, would Internet Explorer sudden death be a better option over the long-term lingering fade out?
In those niche areas of Windows where parts of IE are still used, the code has to be replaced. Microsoft would likely prefer to cut it out in bits and pieces and risk fewer likelihoods of disruptions than to rip it out in force and have something, somewhere, stop working or throwing BSOD’s.
Just my opinion. From a programmer’s point of view, replacing active code is like walking on eggs.
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users". -
geekdom
AskWoody_MVPFebruary 15, 2023 at 6:32 am #2534599A better question might be: What portions of Internet Explorer need to be retained?
On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender -
bbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 15, 2023 at 8:44 am #2534624A better question might be: What portions of Internet Explorer need to be retained?
Perhaps, “Which functions in the OS now handled by IE components need to be rewritten?”
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users".
-
-
Microfix
AskWoody MVPAlex5723
AskWoody PlusFebruary 15, 2023 at 1:23 pm #2534703there are .EXE files named iexplore.exe in the right places under both Program Files and Program Files (x86).
Microsoft can’t (yet) remove Internet explorer so it lives on in Windows 10 and 11.
-
bbearren
AskWoody MVPFebruary 15, 2023 at 2:17 pm #2534740Microsoft can’t (yet) remove Internet explorer so it lives on in Windows 10 and 11.
The files are there, but Internet Explorer will not open or run in Windows 11. Instead it launches (or tries to, in my case) Edge. If you read the xml file in #2534718, you’ll see that support is not listed for Windows 11.
Also, after yesterday’s cumulative update on my NAS (Windows 10 Pro 22H2), iexplore.exe is no longer in the Internet Explorer folder in either Program Files or Program Files (x86).
From the article in the OP:
“Internet Explorer still has some small deaths to die. The “visual references” to the app will remain in Windows 10 until they’re removed by a security update circa June of 2023, according to Microsoft’s support document. And Internet Explorer will remain accessible on Windows Server, non-consumer versions of Windows 10 like the Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) versions of Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 IoT, and Windows 7 and 8 (which are no longer being supported with new security updates or Edge versions as of last month).
And the underlying MSHTML rendering engine will continue to be included as part of Microsoft Edge’s IE compatibility mode, which will be supported until “at least 2029.” Microsoft says it will give users a year’s notice before retiring IE mode, so it could be nearly a decade before the zombified corpse of Internet Explorer finally stops twitching.”
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users". -
Just another Forum Poster
AskWoody LoungerFebruary 16, 2023 at 8:02 am #2535003Ok, for some reason or other, my system must be an outlier.
Win10 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2486) and Edge got updated to version 110.0.1587.46 (the Feb 14 update) this morning.
And, although I now see an “Internet Explorer 11 is now out of support” message when I try to run it (it use to just say Switch to Edge), it still works just fine and I can click the × on the right to close the message!
Maybe it didn’t get “removed” because neither MSIE nor Edge are my default browser (that’s SeaMonkey 2.53.15)
Charlie
AskWoody PlusFebruary 15, 2023 at 2:57 pm #2534752Animated gif files. Did MS ever bring back the ability to look at and see animated gif files in the Windows Photo Viewer that they took away in Win 7? It was no problem in Win XP but, aside from using Internet Explorer, you can’t see the animation in animated gifs.
I’m thinking it maybe has something to do with Active X.
Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20'sAlex5723
AskWoody PlusFebruary 16, 2023 at 4:03 am #2534954My understanding was that it was simply not present, except for “IE mode” in Edge.
How would you run Edge ‘IE Mode’ without bits of IE still installed?
-
Cybertooth
AskWoody PlusFebruary 16, 2023 at 10:52 am #2535047I was astonished to see that IE11 can still run at all as a separate application. Up until yesterday, my understanding was that this was not possible in Windows 11 because IE existed only as a “mode” (a sub-feature) in Edge. Imagine my surprise when I issued the magic commands and the familiar IE interface popped onto the screen!
Now, if I could get IE to load a webpage and then stay on it instead of issuing an error…
EP
AskWoody_MVPAugust 29, 2023 at 12:06 pm #2584237Microsoft can’t (yet) remove Internet explorer so it lives on in Windows 10 and 11.
Internet Explorer is never removed on LTSC editions of Windows 10
and it’s STILL ALIVE on Windows 7 Embedded Standard, Server 2008 R2 & Server 2012 editions as well as IE got a new cumulative update (KB5029243) in August 2023 – any newly released IE updates for these pre-Win10 versions CONTRADICTS IE’s death
1 user thanked author for this post.
Viewing 7 reply threads -

Plus Membership
Donations from Plus members keep this site going. You can identify the people who support AskWoody by the Plus badge on their avatars.
AskWoody Plus members not only get access to all of the contents of this site -- including Susan Bradley's frequently updated Patch Watch listing -- they also receive weekly AskWoody Plus Newsletters (formerly Windows Secrets Newsletter) and AskWoody Plus Alerts, emails when there are important breaking developments.
Get Plus!
Welcome to our unique respite from the madness.
It's easy to post questions about Windows 11, Windows 10, Win8.1, Win7, Surface, Office, or browse through our Forums. Post anonymously or register for greater privileges. Keep it civil, please: Decorous Lounge rules strictly enforced. Questions? Contact Customer Support.
Search Newsletters
Search Forums
View the Forum
Search for Topics
Recent Topics
-
Is it a bug or is it expected?
by
Susan Bradley
5 minutes ago -
Microsoft Speech Recognition Service Error Code 1002 (Awaiting moderation)
by
stanhutchings
1 hour, 10 minutes ago -
Image for Windows TBwinRE image not enough space on target location
by
bobolink
4 hours, 58 minutes ago -
Start menu jump lists for some apps might not work as expected on Windows 10
by
Susan Bradley
5 hours, 43 minutes ago -
Malicious Go Modules disk-wiping malware
by
Alex5723
4 hours, 35 minutes ago -
Multiple Partitions?
by
CWBillow
1 hour, 46 minutes ago -
World Passkey Day 2025
by
Alex5723
13 hours, 19 minutes ago -
Add serial device in Windows 11
by
Theodore Dawson
1 day, 4 hours ago -
Windows 11 users reportedly losing data due forced BitLocker encryption
by
Alex5723
1 hour, 12 minutes ago -
Cached credentials is not a new bug
by
Susan Bradley
1 day, 9 hours ago -
Win11 24H4 Slow!
by
Bob Bible
1 day, 9 hours ago -
Microsoft hiking XBox prices starting today due to Trump’s tariffs
by
Alex5723
1 day, 6 hours ago -
Asus adds “movement sensor” to their Graphics cards
by
n0ads
1 day, 11 hours ago -
‘Minority Report’ coming to NYC
by
Alex5723
1 day, 7 hours ago -
Apple notifies new victims of spyware attacks across the world
by
Alex5723
1 day, 20 hours ago -
Tracking content block list GONE in Firefox 138
by
Bob99
1 day, 19 hours ago -
How do I migrate Password Managers
by
Rush2112
1 day, 3 hours ago -
Orb : how fast is my Internet connection
by
Alex5723
1 day, 5 hours ago -
Solid color background slows Windows 7 login
by
Alex5723
2 days, 7 hours ago -
Windows 11, version 24H2 might not download via Windows Server Updates Services
by
Alex5723
2 days, 6 hours ago -
Security fixes for Firefox
by
Susan Bradley
1 day, 6 hours ago -
Notice on termination of services of LG Mobile Phone Software Updates
by
Alex5723
2 days, 18 hours ago -
Update your Apple Devices Wormable Zero-Click Remote Code Execution in AirPlay..
by
Alex5723
3 days, 3 hours ago -
Amazon denies it had plans to be clear about consumer tariff costs
by
Alex5723
2 days, 18 hours ago -
Return of the brain dead FF sidebar
by
EricB
2 days, 5 hours ago -
Windows Settings Managed by your Organization
by
WSDavidO61
1 day, 8 hours ago -
Securing Laptop for Trustee Administrattor
by
PeachesP
10 hours, 50 minutes ago -
The local account tax
by
Susan Bradley
2 days, 7 hours ago -
Recall is back with KB5055627(OS Build 26100.3915) Preview
by
Alex5723
3 days, 16 hours ago -
Digital TV Antenna Recommendation
by
Win7and10
3 days, 9 hours ago
Recent blog posts
Key Links
Want to Advertise in the free newsletter? How about a gift subscription in honor of a birthday? Send an email to sb@askwoody.com to ask how.
Mastodon profile for DefConPatch
Mastodon profile for AskWoody
Home • About • FAQ • Posts & Privacy • Forums • My Account
Register • Free Newsletter • Plus Membership • Gift Certificates • MS-DEFCON Alerts
Copyright ©2004-2025 by AskWoody Tech LLC. All Rights Reserved.