• LFN tools for DOS

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    Can somebody please give me a rundown on the long filename issue, when running under “pure, real DOS”? I’ve seen various LFN utilities and drivers mentioned, but don’t know how to incorporate them, on a bootdisk say, and what the limitations and potential dangers might be. For instance, if I use a copy *.* to another folder, is there a risk of ending up with 8.3 filenames in the target? Seems to me like you’d need a LFN version of command.com for things to work properly. ???

    Alan

    Edited – I decided to rephrase this in the hope that somebody has visited the issue before. It appears to me that there are 3 ways of dealing with long filenames in “real” DOS for Windows 98 i.e. DOS 7.x. (This would be DOS as loaded from a boot disk – nothing to do with W98 other than belonging with that OS distribution.) There is the possibility of using 3rd party “LFN tools” for operations like copy, rename, dir; there is the choice of using a TSR/driver that enables the use of LFNs with the resident DOS or there is the possibility of using a different DOS altogether e.g. DR DOS. There’s also the option of using a Linux boot disk/ CD.

    Any info on pros/cons, how to, links etc. would be appreciated. I don’t really have a decent feel for the issues involved here.

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      Alan

      I’m not quite sure what problems you are experiencing! And I’m not clear whether by “DOS” you mean “The MS-DOS Command Prompt Window in Windows 98” or “real DOS” as booted from an MS-DOS 6.22 diskette?

      Once you remember the rule “C:Program FilesIf the filename or path has one or more blanks in it then you put it in double quotes” that usually solves the problem. There are only a FEW programs which have to work off 8.3 filenames like C:PROGRA~1IFTHEF~1. I have an MS-DOS bootable diskette with programs like Vernon Buerg’s LIST, IBM PC-DOS’s E editor, and so on, and never thought much about the LFN question…

      John

      PS Perhaps I don’t understand the question anyway?!

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        John

        I am referring to a DOS 7.1 boot disk or a restart to DOS mode, nothing to do with a DOS box running from windows. I’m trying to make a boot disk, using the available 3rd party tools, which will support (to as high a degree as possible) the use of actual long filenames. For instance, using the LFNTools I can:
        lcd “C:Program Files”
        rather than
        cd c:progra~1
        which I’d have to do with “unenhanced DOS”.

        Apart from those LFNTools, I’ve seen other methods mentioned of recognizing LFNs (TSR, different DOS as mentioned etc.) I have downloaded a bootdisk image that will supposedly run DOS with such support for standard commands like copy, ren etc., but have yet to try.

        I’m just fishing for info from anyone who may have tackled doing this before, and any ideas they could pass on.

        Alan

      • #855822

        John

        I am referring to a DOS 7.1 boot disk or a restart to DOS mode, nothing to do with a DOS box running from windows. I’m trying to make a boot disk, using the available 3rd party tools, which will support (to as high a degree as possible) the use of actual long filenames. For instance, using the LFNTools I can:
        lcd “C:Program Files”
        rather than
        cd c:progra~1
        which I’d have to do with “unenhanced DOS”.

        Apart from those LFNTools, I’ve seen other methods mentioned of recognizing LFNs (TSR, different DOS as mentioned etc.) I have downloaded a bootdisk image that will supposedly run DOS with such support for standard commands like copy, ren etc., but have yet to try.

        I’m just fishing for info from anyone who may have tackled doing this before, and any ideas they could pass on.

        Alan

    • #855782

      Alan

      I’m not quite sure what problems you are experiencing! And I’m not clear whether by “DOS” you mean “The MS-DOS Command Prompt Window in Windows 98” or “real DOS” as booted from an MS-DOS 6.22 diskette?

      Once you remember the rule “C:Program FilesIf the filename or path has one or more blanks in it then you put it in double quotes” that usually solves the problem. There are only a FEW programs which have to work off 8.3 filenames like C:PROGRA~1IFTHEF~1. I have an MS-DOS bootable diskette with programs like Vernon Buerg’s LIST, IBM PC-DOS’s E editor, and so on, and never thought much about the LFN question…

      John

      PS Perhaps I don’t understand the question anyway?!

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