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    #196396

    Ask Woody has been a great site and has been working very well for a long while now. Thank you for everyone involved.
    Not every time, but once it starts it happens a lot. My browser’s status bar stalls with the message “waiting on TLS handshake with maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com” or similar.
    Two different scanners say “no threats found” or similar. But problem continues.
    Is this an expected message from this site’s content, or associated with a contracted advertiser?

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    • #196410

      What browser (with version) and OS are you using? (if W10 what version)

      Windows - commercial by definition and now function...
      • #196424

        Lost an attempted reply to the aether. Did not trigger a “waiting for moderation” placeholder.
        Have verified interaction with site by replying in a different thread.
        Your questions suggest the OS that hosts a browser, or the browser itself, generates this address, not the content delivered by Ask Woody?
        Pale Moon current 27.9.2 stock settings intact
        Windows 7 current to May roll up, did not bother to look up KB number

        • #196492

          @anon, you may wish to read this: https://www.thesslstore.com/blog/troubleshoot-firefoxs-tls-handshake-message/

          Ranges from: Avast/ AVG AntiVirus (most common if using either), corrupt browser profile or Disable IPv6.

          The replies at the foot of the article may give you some starting points from people who have fixed the issue similar to yours.

          Windows - commercial by definition and now function...
          • #196552

            I have never looked into disabling IPv6. I have been aware of the discussion, but had not considered that I experienced any difficulties from it. “Ain’t broke, don’t fix.” Thank you for bringing that to mind. I will look into that possibility.

    • #196449

      I have no experience of Pale Moon, but I don’t have this problem with Firefox – at least, not since Woody’s latest server upgrade.

    • #196465

      Neither do I: it looks like a really strange problem.Hope a solution can be found.

      As to Pale Moon and Firefox: I used to do a lot online with Firefox, but it has become way too cool for me, so now I use mostly Waterfox. Same as Pale Moon, it’s a variant (“fork”) of Firefox developed by some people that collaborate with Mozilla but are not a part of it. But, as do franchise TV shows, movies and books, belong in the same “Universe.” In my case, a good thing about Waterfox, besides being more like Firefox used to be, is that it has a version for the Mac, something Pale Moon has not. So I can work with the same browser in each of my two machines.

       

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #196471

      It seems to present as coming from the requested page loading from Ask Woody. But no one confirms seeing this address. I will have to consider there may be an uninvited guest. Thank you each for your tips.

      • #196496

        Check that it’s not a misconfiguration or an Add-on that’s behind this, I have no trouble here with Pale Moon 27.9.2×64 on W7.

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        • #196563

          Lost another reply. Again did not generate a moderation placeholder so hope this is not a repeat submit.
          I see our browsers are same version, bit, and environment. Though there may be other differences. My configuration is “still at default settings” or “out of the box” or “stock settings”, not tweaked may be another description. uBlock is the only current add-on. I have looked at its settings to be familiar. But have not explored its capability. Is there a particular setting in either Pale Moon or uBlock you might suggest to toggle. To try in each setting to observe result?
          A separate question that I should look at Pale Moon forum for more information. uBlock has forked “Firefox Legacy”. Does that suggest Pale Moon should not follow mainline Firefox packages?
          There is no other add-on to disable. Earlier this year I uninstalled the PDF reader offered from the Pale Moon list. I was concerned it was not being maintained in response to PDF reader exploits revealed this year.

      • #196527

        I also use Pale Moon, same version as satrow (above). I do see what you see and I have to look closely, because it flashes by really fast. Its not an “uninvited guest”. Its a short code lookup process to help display the current page. Yet, why its hanging for you, I don’t know. I turned off my addon blockers to check if it made a difference. It didn’t. It still zips by. My preferences are still at the default settings, when I installed Pale Moon.

        • #196556

          Thank you for confirming another sighting of the address. I can set aside the idea that my OS or browser is creating it. I agree it may be part of many page requests. Usually the status bar is a blur of information. It is only useful when it exposes the current item when a long delay allows it to be readable. Long enough to copy down the address, and stare at it for nearly a full minute sometimes.
          It is not the presence that concerns me. It is the hanging that is the problem. Microfix has suggested some possibilities for me to follow up. StruldBrug, have you, disabled IPv6 and use only IPv4?
          That may not exclude the possibility that it is my IPv6 handling that is broken, while yours works well.

          • #196606

            @Anon #196556 Yes, I disabled IPv6 and only use IPv4.

            • #196607

              OK, also good information. Because you see the security handshake and it executes quickly, without the need for IPv6 to complete the task. Seems another item I can set aside as not important to this delay.
              There may still be other reasons to disable IPv6, that I should consider though.

    • #196609

      I went back to review my original post. Maybe I created the confusion by putting my question at the end of a fairly short post.

      Is this an expected message from this site’s content, or associated with a contracted advertiser?

      I did not believe there was a problem with my browser that required repair.
      It seemed significant to me that the security handshake that caused the delay appeared after most of the Ask Woody content had loaded. It seemed to be tied to additional content. I wondered which part of the content delivered by Ask Woody was requesting a secure connection with that address. I thought I posed the most direct question to learn if the address was associated with Ask Woody or a different source.
      The delay effect has been reduced now. It is not yet clear if that is a time of day function of traffic, a change has been made outside of my control, or the normal rotation of an advertisement.
      Original purpose was to raise awareness of questionable advertising. I am glad that it did not affect many readers.

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