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    MS has finally followed through with their decision for any Win 7/8 users that if you want to continue to use that OS until EOL ( End of Life ), that you will only use it on the older hardware.
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-begins-blocking-updates-for-older-windows-versions-on-newer-hardware/?promo=404&tag=nl.e404.em&ttag=e404&s_cid=e404&ftag=CAD-04-10aag0g&cval=cnet-nl-zd&bhid=20413139512402147159341748746160

    Anyone running an older version of Windows on new hardware received a rude shock this week when the latest Patch Tuesday updates rolled around.

    Instead of receiving the latest security updates for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, those customers saw an error message instead.

    Unsupported Hardware

    Your PC uses a processor that isn’t supported on this version of Windows and you won’t receive updates.”

    This issue occurs with newer hardware equipped with 7th-generation Intel processors (“Kaby Lake”) and AMD Ryzen (“Bristol Ridge”) chips. Systems with the Intel CPUs installed went on sale in late 2016. Devices built using AMD’s new chips are just beginning to reach the market.

    Although the sudden end of updates might come as a surprise to some PC owners, it isn’t unexpected. Microsoft announced the change in its support policy more than a year ago, in January 2016.:

    Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
    All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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    • #1593685

      And the free upgrade to Win 10 seems to have finally ended.

      • #1593730

        And the free upgrade to Win 10 seems to have finally ended.

        Yesterday I upgraded a customer’s HP Win8.1 desktop PC to Win10 (Home x64). There were no problems/errors during the upgrade and when I checked after about 30min System/Activation said “Windows is activated with a digital licence”.

        But during the past week I gave up trying to upgrade a customer’s Toshiba Win7 Pro x32 laptop to Win10 after four attempts; four attempts, in each case the upgrade appeared to proceed through the usual “downloading updates” then “installing” w/ two-or-three restarts then a prompt would display “Windows 10 upgrade has failed” w/ only an “OK” button & no error code or any other indication as to what had caused the failure. But I suspect it was because of the Toshiba’s age (about 2009 & originally had Vista).

    • #1593686

      That’s upset my triple booting of 7/8.1 & 10 😡

    • #1593731

      That’s strange because I’d linked the Update now and Assistive Technologies web sites for someone on another forum and neither provided.

      The first one told him he would need a Win 10 key and that he could only upgrade if the machine had already been upgraded and activated and the Assistive Technologies option has been pulled – and that was yesterday.

      That machine was Win 8.1.

      • #1593744

        That’s strange because I’d linked the Update now and Assistive Technologies web sites for someone on another forum and neither provided…

        Well, if M$ really has ended the free upgrade to Win10 we’ll find out for sure before long. Maybe yesterday I just slipped through just before the door closed???

    • #1593740
      • #1593745

        It still exists:

        Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

        Hmm, are my settings too high, the link works but the ‘Upgrade Now’ button doesn’t.

        • #1593746

          Hmm, are my settings too high, the link works but the ‘Upgrade Now’ button doesn’t.

          I just tried it (IE11) and immediately after clicking the ‘Upgrade Now’ button the IE11 download bar popped up at bottom-of-page with “Do you want to run or save Windows10Upgrade24074.exe (5.47MB) from download.microsoft.com?”. Quite normal.

    • #1593752

      I can dig out the link from the console, http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=822783, and that’s a direct download when pasted into Pale Moon or Firefox, I’ll need to find some time next month to check my IE settings, I rarely use it anyway.

      • #1593791

        I can dig out the link from the console, http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=822783, and that’s a direct download when pasted into Pale Moon or Firefox, I’ll need to find some time next month to check my IE settings, I rarely use it anyway.

        FWIW
        Just got the download popup in older PM (26 something) with my NoScript settings….

        :cheers:

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1593763

      Well for the Assistive Technologies link that I’d posted for the OP was working when I copied & pasted it just hours before we both got it as in the pic.

      I don’t think we would both have had DNS problems.

      However, having done a fresh Google for the link, I’m now getting it as it should be, so don’t know what happened to the one I’d posted on the other forum as I checked the link before posting the reply.

      With already having Win 10, I’m unable to test the Update now button, but this is what that OP got on trying it after the Assistive Technologies link.

      I tried the other tool but it said I needed a licence to install Win 10 and also that I needed to have had already activated Win 10 on that particular PC.
      But nothing higher than Win 8 and 8.1 has been on this computer.

      46972-AssTch

    • #1593765

      Back on topic I’ve not seen any errors yet in Windows 7

      46973-w7ryzen

      46974-w7wu

    • #1593771

      What are/were the Optional updates – MS are pushing the Telemetry KB2952664 one again.

    • #1593773

      The optional ones are Silverlight & Skype, KB2952664 is installed and checking the event log shows it came through as an automatic update amongst others

      Code:
      Installation Ready: The following updates are downloaded and ready for installation. This computer is currently scheduled to install these updates on ‎19 ‎March ‎2017 at 03:00: 
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2852386)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2799926)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2506928)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3138378)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB982018)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3140245)
      – [B]Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2952664) [/B]
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2808679)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2761217)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3006121)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3092627)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2868116)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2908783)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3184143)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2732487)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3054476)
      – Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2726535)
      – Update for User-Mode Driver 
    • #1593781

      You should have been offered these 2:
      46975-WU-March-2017

      But since you have Ryzen I guess that you weren’t.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1593782

      They’re installed…
      46976-kb4012215

      • #1593793

        They’re installed…
        46976-kb4012215

        I have my Win 7 update settings set to Let me choose.. so that I can vet them and never let anything auto download/install.

        KB2952664 always gets hidden when re-offered.

    • #1593795

      This was a clean install from a non-SP1 disk so with a couple of hundred updates to get done I just installed the lot 😮

    • #1593858

      A year ago I bought a brand new Dell computer with a Haswell (4th Generation) CPU. I knew that there was some risk with Skylake (6th Generation). I’m not at all surprised that they quit doing updates on Kaby Lake (7th Generation). They agreed to continue doing updates for Skylake, because so many had already bought Skylake PCs with Windows 7. I don’t recall them agreeing to continue updates for CPUs newer than Skylake.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
      • #1594335

        Assembling a Intel Core i7 7700 7th Generation (Kaby Lake) on a Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H motherboard with Windows 7 Professional x64. After installing about 250 updates a warning comes out that is not compatible and I must switch to an operating system specially designed for the processor… Windows 10 of course! And that will not install important security updates, total lie, since it does not install anything else, including .NET Framework and Office 2010 updates. Anybody knows a circumvent like I heard: uninstalling KB4012218, KB4014565, KB4015549?
        Thanks.

        • #1594336

          Assembling a Intel Core i7 7700 7th Generation (Kaby Lake) on a Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H motherboard with Windows 7 Professional x64. After installing about 250 updates a warning comes out that is not compatible and I must switch to an operating system specially designed for the processor… Windows 10 of course! And that will not install important security updates, total lie, since it does not install anything else, including .NET Framework and Office 2010 updates. Anybody knows a circumvent like I heard: uninstalling KB4012218, KB4014565, KB4015549?
          Thanks.

          Here is a possible workaround if you are installing Windows 7 in a virtual machine:
          https://www.askwoody.com/2017/for-you-testers-heres-how-to-spoof-a-kaby-lake-processor-inside-a-virtualbox-win7-vm/

          Not sure if this will work if you are installing Windows 7 on the host computer (as the primary OS for the machine).

          Group "L" (Linux Mint)
          with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
    • #1594363

      How is the average user supposed to know that MS has stopped support for their processor? One of the PCs here Has a Intel(r) Core(tm) i7-4770 CPU Is that one that will be blocked? These bad patches will simply get more people to quit patching.
      Joe

      • #1594364

        How is the average user supposed to know that MS has stopped support for their processor? One of the PCs here Has a Intel(r) Core(tm) i7-4770 CPU Is that one that will be blocked? These bad patches will simply get more people to quit patching.
        Joe

        When you run WU’s you will get a pop-up saying that your processor is not supported ( if it is a newer one ie. Kabylake etc. ). MS has decided that if you don’t want W10, then you should just go without security updates if you decide to upgrade your CPU.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1594551

        How is the average user supposed to know that MS has stopped support for their processor?

        Great question.

        Group "L" (Linux Mint)
        with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
    • #1594631

      How is the average user supposed to know that MS has stopped support for their processor?

      When their PC no longer crashes due to updates

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