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	PATCH WATCH Microsoft re-issues last month’s .NET updates
	By Susan Bradley It might be the dog days of summer, but there’s no relief from the annoying task of updating .NET Framework. To everyone’s surprise, Microsoft rereleased last month’s .NET updates for Windows. If you installed them, you’ll need to do it again.

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Thanks for the great advice Susan. A question to consider. I recently upgraded from XP to Win 7. In the process of resintalling MS Office Applications I ended up keeping several older versions of specific applications and several other old applications. The Microsoft update site has proposed many updates to the older versions of .net and also the MS office suite. Which raises the question:
Should I allow all the old updates to install or try to pick through them and only install the ones which appear to be for a specific application? Some updates aren’t clearly identified. e.g. .NET 3 or generic MS Office 07 updates. If I just install all the old updates – does that cause an impact to my system (other than just taking up space)? Am I doing more harm by picking some and not all?
Mike

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Thanks for the great advice Susan. A question to consider. I recently upgraded from XP to Win 7. In the process of resintalling MS Office Applications I ended up keeping several older versions of specific applications and several other old applications. The Microsoft update site has proposed many updates to the older versions of .net and also the MS office suite. Which raises the question:
Should I allow all the old updates to install or try to pick through them and only install the ones which appear to be for a specific application? Some updates aren’t clearly identified. e.g. .NET 3 or generic MS Office 07 updates. If I just install all the old updates – does that cause an impact to my system (other than just taking up space)? Am I doing more harm by picking some and not all?
Mike

Due to how or what you updates it’s very likely you have leftover Office versions. Case in point if you go from some versions of Office 2007 to different versions of Office 2010 that don’t have the same offerings, your 2007 versions are left behind. You really do have those older pieces behind and Windows update is reacting to that.

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Watch out everyone. Microsoft has pulled back several updates this month. http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-botches-six-windows-patches-in-latest-automatic-update-224988

Among them is MS13-063, the Windows Kernel patch. Good thing Susan told us to put it on hold.

The other patches that have problems are MS13-061 (which Susan warned us about) and MS13-066 (ADFS) which Susan didn’t warn us about.

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@ML Taylor —

I had unusually many and severe issues with the July .NET updates, and they continue to throw up issues with other folks. Read on.

@Susan Bradley —

I am not surprised to see the .NET July Patches re-released, based onmy own issues with the .NET 4.0 Windows 7 patches. Susan, you and Woody Leonhard are well aware of what I and (at least) a few other “pioneers” went through with these patches. DEFINITELY install these new updates separately from all other MS Updates, and only one .NET version at a time, starting with your oldest version and working upward. That worked even with the botched patches, so it should avoid similar issues this time around.

I am also not surprised at continuing tweaking of the Windows Media Patch. I had no problems with it, but I am not a video enthusiast.

I expect new updates for Firefox, Chrome and IE (all versions) at least once more this month. (Based on the Pwn2Own results and continuing vulnerability issues in all three browsers.)

Typo in your article — transposed letters — First occurrence of RCP should be RPC.

IE 10 has been working reasonably well in Windows 7 SP1 64-bit on my Toshiba Satellite laptop for a few months now.

There are six of the server/admin patches which have known issues now. Maybe put all on hold?

-- rc primak

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.Net update failures are almost always caused by a corrupted .Net installation. Usually easily fixed by uninstalling all .Net instances and installing a fresh copy of .Net 4.5
I haven’t run across a client PC that I wasn’t able to repair .Net so that the updates work.

Jerry

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.Net update failures are almost always caused by a corrupted .Net installation. Usually easily fixed by uninstalling all .Net instances and installing a fresh copy of .Net 4.5
I haven’t run across a client PC that I wasn’t able to repair .Net so that the updates work.

Jerry

You are so right, Jerry! In fact, that’s one of the many details about my July .NET failure and rebuild which I left out so as not to scare too many folks away from EVER updating .NET Framework! 😉

FWIW, there are ripout and diagnostic and repair tools available for all degrees of damages to .NET Framework. If anyone has specific needs for these tools, we can post them.

-- rc primak

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You won’t see ADFS on a workstation. It’s only a server and even then it’s typically in much larger implementations that you would be testing first.

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A friend had a problem on Thursday, most likely to to MS Updates they let install on Tuesday.

In the middle of the working day, the screen suddenly went black and announced her activation was invalid. She was asked to click a link to reactivate. It evidently implied if she didn’t Win7 was toast. After some discussion and trepidation, she did so and the system reactivated and returned to normal. Everything, that is except the desktop background image setting was lost.

Have no idea which update that was bundled with but it’s the only explanation I can think of for this.

The day after I did my updates, there was a bootup message that my system had been updated so it seems this round included something that needed a couple of reboots.

Per Alan, I noticed KB2859537 (MS13-063) was deselected in this mornings update nag.
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=309338
As he mentioned, Susan had recommended we wait on that one. Another bit of sage advice to be happy about.

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A friend had a problem on Thursday, most likely to to MS Updates they let install on Tuesday.

In the middle of the working day, the screen suddenly went black and announced her activation was invalid. She was asked to click a link to reactivate. It evidently implied if she didn’t Win7 was toast. After some discussion and trepidation, she did so and the system reactivated and returned to normal. Everything, that is except the desktop background image setting was lost.

Have no idea which update that was bundled with but it’s the only explanation I can think of for this.

The day after I did my updates, there was a bootup message that my system had been updated so it seems this round included something that needed a couple of reboots.

Per Alan, I noticed KB2859537 (MS13-063) was deselected in this mornings update nag.
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=309338
As he mentioned, Susan had recommended we wait on that one. Another bit of sage advice to be happy about.

I’ve had activation warnings in Windows 8, Windows 7 and Windows XP for any of a number of truly trivial reasons. Sometimes an antivirus update, sometimes a third-party program update, sometimes a MS Update. Since it’s usually fairly straightforward to run through WAT (formerly WGA) Verification at the Microsoft Sites, I just run the Verification Page or Tool and have done with it.

My most recent event like this was when MSE-4 received a Program Update a couple of months ago.

-- rc primak

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Overall my updates deployment to pilot machines went well but I have noticed one thing that I had a *.rdg (Remote Desktop manager) in my Documents, it is disappeared now. Is it deleted by any update? Any thoughts?

I have save my all servers list in that file, now I have to make a new one 🙁

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The .NET updates are a real puzzle to me. The few that I have installed over the last few years have caused not problems. However, of the 5 .NET updates that I’m still holding, only 2 were mentioned by Susan in this newsletter. I’m really puzzled as to what to do about the other 3? I also received 5 non-.NET updates that Susan did not mention. I’m always puzzled why I get them and Susan doesn’t mention them and what I should do about them. I’m running Vista.

Bill

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In general, Patch Watch only includes security updates.

Bruce

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Thanks for pointing that out, Bruce. Maybe that is the answer to my puzzle.

As usual, I only installed the updates that Susan recommended this time and, for the first time I can remember something caused a problem! I use a Logitech Trackball and it was not recognized after installing these updates! I couldn’t find any way to get it going so I did a System Restore to remove all of this set of updates and now the trackball is working again. I guess I will have to do incremental updates until I find which one caused the problem. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to do this?

Thanks,
Bill

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Unfortunately you just do one at a time. Manually MU and uncheck everything BUT one and install that. Reboot, check your mouse

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Since this is a five Thursday week we get a break on the WindowsSecrets but not on patching. I’ll do a quick update here and then a normal PW next week or the week after:

2859537 – Kernel update – Seen issues with games/programs and BSODs with this update.
Game programs have been fixed and you should see no issues.[/B]If you get a client reporting 0xc0000005 application errors please note this is a sign of pirated software
IF YOU RECEIVE A BSOD PLEASE CONTACT ME. Please note that am not seeing many BSODs. I have had a few cases but it’s not widespread. But due to seeing some, I am recommending that you hold off on KB2859537

Office 2010 sp2 and SharePoint 2010 SP2:
Not ready to give the okay to install this update. Please note there was a release of KB2825640 (1) which indicates that this August update fixes issues caused by SP2 but it does not detail what these issues are.
Furthermore the issue with Error ID 27 Calendar property is missing is not yet fixed: (see thread here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/sqlserver/en-US/f96903c9-c3ff-4e9d-9363-0882cffe4de8/ol2010-error-id-27-since-sp2-calendar-folder-property-is-missing-calendar-folder-property-is
Therefore not ready to give the okay to install Office 2010 sp2 or SharePoint 2010 sp2 at this time.

(1) KB2825640 Description of the Office 2010 update: August 27, 2013: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2825640/en-us This update fixes some issues that occur when you install Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Office 2010 – don’t install this one either.

KB numbers 2803821, 2834902, 4834903, 2834904, 2834905
Bulletin revised to rerelease security update 2803821 for Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008; security update 2834902 for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003; security update 2834903 for Windows XP; security update 2834904 for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003; and security update 2834905 for Windows XP. Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 customers should install the rereleased updates

KB2862768 – Windows RT, Windows 8, and Windows Server 2012 update rollup: August 2013 (Windows 8, Windows RT and Server 2012). This update resolves an issue in which some Micro SD cards are not detected on Windows 8 tablets as well as several other issues. A restart is required after installation.
Do not install at this time. Seeing an issue where after installing the August update you can no longer search for a Windows store app and get to a download location
See discussion here: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_store/what-is-going-on-with-windows-store-sorry-this-app/d6dfcb30-dcf1-400e-820c-354098ec67ca and here: http://digitalmediaphile.com/index.php/2013/08/28/microsoft-fails-at-windows-8-support-incident/
No ETA a this time for a fix.

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. . .As usual, I only installed the updates that Susan recommended this time and, for the first time I can remember something caused a problem! I use a Logitech Trackball and it was not recognized after installing these updates! I couldn’t find any way to get it going so I did a System Restore to remove all of this set of updates and now the trackball is working again. I guess I will have to do incremental updates until I find which one caused the problem. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to do this?
Bill

Well, I have installed about 15 updates (many more than I installed originally) one at a time and the track ball is still working! So, I am in good shape at this point.

Susan, thanks for making my path clear in your message.

Bill

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